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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:45 PM
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Iraq Soldier Backs U.S. On Deadly Raid
The Iraqi commander during a controversial raid by American and Iraq forces is backing the U.S. version of a battle that left 16 Iraqis dead, CBS News correspondent Lara Logan reports.

The commander insisted his Iraqi Special Operations troops had to fight their way into the target building where they killed gunmen guarding a hostage and found various weapons including rocket launchers and heavy machine guns.

"We know this, the building, is used for to capture the civilians, the civilian people, by bad guys and they need money," the commander tells Logan.

A man who claims he was held hostage in the building, says of his captors, "They beat me, they kicked me and they used an electric drill on me. "I thought I was going to die." At one point during the emotional interview, he broke down and had to be comforted."If you go to the streets and see all the people who have left their houses and if you go to the morgue and see all the bodies then you will understand," he says.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:51 PM
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1. Who is this "hostage" to know what happen to him.
All the posts here know the real story. Electric drill...sure.

:sarcasm:
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:54 PM
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2. What, do you think the story is bogus? n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:07 AM
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5. Nope, I think the people who have been sucking on the version
of the story the Sadr bunch is giving must have a bad taste in their mouths. Some people here believe any atrocity story so long as out troops are the bad guys. I knew the truth would come out because there was a rescued hostage involved.

Funny I don't see any of the many posters of the past few days backing their dead horse now.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:54 AM
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7. Oh jesus....
you get some conflicting allegations days after the event and you offer that up as some sort of proof?
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 04:31 AM
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9. It's totally believable Sadr people would hold a man in a shrine bld.
This used to be a Saddam building but was taken over for "religious purposes" and used for such purposes. Maybe some religious court said this hostage had done something bad and they were engaging in enforcement.

Nasty stuff. But to deny that the place could possibly also be a place of worship is just tripping. Yeah they can say all they want "well it wasn't a place of worship because we say so because if it was they were defiling it" but I doubt the Shiites much care about the US determining what is and what isn't a place of worship.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:46 AM
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12. The bad taste comes from all the many different versions
of this farce. It appears you're the only one that can say "Nope" I knew it all along!

I don't buy this story either.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:49 AM
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13. Why, no....everything the MSM tells us is absolutely true!....
...How do we know the MSM is always telling us the truth? Because they tell us they are!

It's just like the NeoCons telling us that they never lie. You always believe them, don't you?

:sarcasm:
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:56 PM
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3. Freedom to kill
No more law
Think guilty
BAM BAM all dead

Hey good grief what going to happen when all the soldiers comes home
What have you turn American soldiers into
bush evil ways becomes taint to soldiers soul.
Over what
Saddam?
My GOD who is a bigger monster.
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brokensymmetry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:05 AM
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4. Interesting...
but, the problem is, it isn't believable. Whether it's true or not, no one will accept it.

I think that this event is the defining moment in the upcoming Iraqi civil war. Just as Fort Sumter was for the U.S.

Now the question is - has this all come about due to * bungling? Or was it planned from the start - and if so, where does the path lead?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 12:51 AM
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6. bwahaahhahaaaaa
geeze, and just what the hell ELSE is he gonna say? 'oh yeah, they massacred those civilians'? he'd be tossed in some american jail before the day was out accused of TERRORISM. they really do think the public complete fools. what a complete crock. or maybe they just don't care? these cover stories are so bad.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 02:39 AM
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8. umm.. it is like he is an embedded Iraqi soldier.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:23 AM
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10. (CBS) Iraq Soldier Backs U.S. On Deadly Raid

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/30/iraq/main1454661.shtml

Iraq Soldier Backs U.S. On Deadly Raid


(CBS/AP) The Iraqi commander during a controversial raid by American and Iraq forces is backing the U.S. version of a battle that left 16 Iraqis dead, CBS News correspondent Lara Logan reports.

In an exclusive interview with CBS News, the Iraqi commander says accusations that U.S. forces killed innocent civilians in Sunday's raid on a building in Baghdad were "not true."

...

A man who claims he was held hostage in the building, says of his captors, "They beat me, they kicked me and they used an electric drill on me. I thought I was going to die."

...

"If you go to the streets and see all the people who have left their houses and if you go to the morgue and see all the bodies then you will understand," he says.

For security reasons, neither the Iraqi commander or alleged hostage would reveal their names or if they were Sunni or Shiite.


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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:32 AM
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11. is anything believeable anymore ?
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