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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:18 PM
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United States Working To Improve Religious Freedom in Vietnam
30 March 2006

United States Working To Improve Religious Freedom in Vietnam
State's Hanford says Vietnam revising laws, educating local officials on issue

By Todd Bullock
Washington File Staff Writer

Washington -- The United States is working with Vietnam to improve religious freedom in the country, says John Hanford III, U.S. ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom.

Under the terms of recent negotiations, Vietnam has agreed to address a number of issues, including reopening house churches and meeting places that had previously been closed, Hanford told a joint hearing of two House International Relations subcommittees March 29.

According to Hanford, Vietnam's legislature is working on the promulgation of a new legal framework that would ban forced religious denunciations and define land-use rights for registered and recognized churches.

"Vietnam has also agreed to ensure local officials fully implement the new legal framework on religion with the understanding that while this new framework holds promise for religious freedom, it means nothing if there is not implementation," he said.
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http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2006&m=March&x=20060330125212tjkcollub0.9734003&t=livefeeds/wf-latest.html
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:22 PM
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1. .....and the Nazis are in Poland spreading love and peace.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:27 PM
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2. Hello pot, this is kettle, your tope.
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 06:34 PM by DanCa
There's no such thing as religious freedom. Someone will always insult someone else based upon their religious or non religious views. You know if we all drove our cars on the same color light there would be a onr heckuva car wreck.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:38 PM
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3. Vietnam probably believed we wouldn't be bothering them again
when we finally signed the Paris Peace Accords in 1973.

Nothing is really ever over, apparently, until the American right-wing has destroyed everything it cannot use.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 06:59 PM
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4. I'm sure they would welcome our meddling with their country
After all, last time we did such a great job.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:00 PM
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5. Um, is there a reason they should get what we don't have...?
:shrug: ...just wondered.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:09 PM
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6. Anyone know if we ever had an "ambassador-at-large for religious freedom"
before Spongehead Dumbass took over?



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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 10:07 PM
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10. Looks like it started in '98
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 10:24 PM by 54anickel
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/irf/

The Office of International Religious Freedom has the mission of promoting religious freedom as a core objective of U.S. foreign policy. Headed by Ambassador-at-Large John Hanford for International Religious Freedom, its Office Director and staff monitor religious persecution and discrimination worldwide, recommend and implement policies in respective regions or countries, and develop programs to promote religious freedom.

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The office carries out its mission through:

The Annual Report on International Religious Freedom. The report contains an introduction, executive summary, and a chapter describing the status of religious freedom in each of 195 countries throughout the world. Mandated by, and presented to, the U.S. Congress, the report is a public document available online and in book form from the U.S. Government Printing Office.
The designation by the Secretary of State (under authority delegated by the President) of nations guilty of particularly severe violations of religious freedom as "countries of particular concern" under the International Religious Freedom Act of 1998 (H.R. 2431)and its amendment of 1999 (Public Law 106-55). Nations so designated are subject to further actions, including economic sanctions, by the United States.


eta a bit more background http://www.religioustolerance.org/rt_uslaw.htm

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The main source of support for the bill comes from Conservative Christian organizations:

Christian Coalition
Evangelicals for Social Action
Family Research Council
National Association of Evangelicals
Prison Fellowship
Salvation Army
Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission
U.S. Catholic Bishops' Conference

Additional support has been given by the International Campaign for Tibet, and a number of Jewish groups:

Anti-Defamation League
National Jewish Coalition
Union of American Hebrew Congregations
Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregation

There appears to be no formal support from mainline and liberal Christian faith groups, or from other religions.


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Speaker of the House, Newt Gingrich (R, GA) commented: "I think we're going to work in both the House and Senate to convince the Clinton administration to withdraw its opposition to an office in the White House, to recognize the need for America to take a leading role, not a passive role, not a tentative role, but a leading role in being a witness around the world on behalf of religious liberty."

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, (R, MS) predicted that the Senate would "address this question legislatively, and we're going to do it now. We're going to do it this year,"

The House bill was modified slightly and approved by the International Operations and Human Rights Subcommittee of the House's International Relations Committee on 1997-SEP-18. (6) The bill would retain its main features: create a new office in the White House, provide for sanctions, and improve proceedings for refugees fleeing religious persecution. However, some extremely important changes were made to the bill. It would:

allow the President to waive sanctions, if he provides a written explanation to Congress.
more clearly state that the law would all victims of religious persecution, not just to Christians.
not give precedence to victims of religious persecution over those who are fleeing other forms of oppression.
not block loans and humanitarian aid that assist people directly.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:46 PM
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11. Thanks for providing this info. I plan to re-read to make sure I've got it
So much happens behind our backs, wouldn't you say?

This is very interesting.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:06 AM
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13. I'm thinking there was an awful lot of fine print and contingency clauses
in Newt's Contract On On America. The GOPpiggies were laying the groundwork for 2000. Makes me think, "Of course they rigged the election" - they weren't about to waste all that advanced leg work.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:22 AM
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12. Sounds like Gingrich et al got the law shoved through...
...and Clinton opposed an office in the WH. So, they just put it in place as soon as he was out the door.

Thanks for the info.
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:24 PM
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7. That's rich!
We support Diem, who bans Buddhism, and now we're telling them how to "improve religious freedom".

I couldn't make this stuff up.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 07:30 PM
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8. Well in their defense, we did assasinate Diem too. /sarcasm n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 09:55 PM
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9. Ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom??
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:33 AM
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14. Yeah, cause the Fundies are such experts on
religious freedom eh?

:puke:
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