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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:49 PM
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Schiavo's Parents Vow to Keep Up Fight
WASHINGTON (AP) - One day before the first anniversary of Terri Schiavo's death, her family came to the nation's capital with a pledge to keep fighting "the growing culture of euthanasia."

Schiavo's mother, Mary Schindler, said the foundation formed several years ago to keep her brain-damaged daughter alive would now focus on educating the public about end-of-life decisions.

"We lost in our battle to save Terri, but we believe it is incumbent on us to redirect our efforts to saving the lives of the innocent, who every day are being targeted by the euthanasia cult," Mary Schindler said at a news conference outside the Capitol.

Unlike last year, when Congress, President Bush and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush pressed to keep Schiavo alive, only one lawmaker was on hand Thursday with the Schindlers, Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan. The conservative lawmaker is considering a bid for president in 2008.

more...

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/thrive/2006/mar/30/033003865.html
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:51 PM
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1. maybe thay can prop her corpse up alongside that Jesus on a trailer hitch
She lives! She lives!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:52 PM
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4. the good news is ...their following has dwindled ....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:14 AM
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12. Hannity will stick by them
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:16 AM
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19. it's merely a flesh wound......
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Paranoid Pessimist Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:58 PM
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44. Funny how the "heal the sick" televangelists never raise the dead
Wouldn't that be great TV? Night of the living saved, perhps
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:52 PM
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2. Hasn't this poor woman been thru enough?
It was bad enough that the Hermaphrodite Sean Hannity exploited her on her death bed, now she can't even find in the grave. I guess human decency is not part of the post 9-11 world.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:52 PM
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3. that whole useless family found a lucrative career
fucking ghouls
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 11:59 PM
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5. Night of the Living Schindlers vs the Dead Schindler-Schiavo
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 12:02 AM by countmyvote4real
eom.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:00 AM
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6. What's really sad about this whole mess is that Terri was supposed
to have been a very private person. She didn't like being the center of attention. Surely her parents knew that! I know, when this whole thing was going on, I told my son, if you EVER do anything like that to me, I swear I'll haunt you till the day you DIE! How can these parents defame their daughter's memory like this?
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mindwalker_i Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:04 AM
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7. How long will this go on?
Gods are created in their followers' image. Will they be talking about this for the next 2k years?

-mwalker
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:07 AM
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9. as long as people donate to their dumbass foundation
this is what the kids do for a living now too, they are speaker for rtl events.
you can rent yourself one!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 01:41 PM
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35. Only if her ashes rise from the urn. (NT)
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:43 AM
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52. Hey - these are probably the same people who worship Elvis!
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:06 AM
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8. euthanasia cult???
How about makin' money off your dead daughter cult... that's more like it..

fucking assholes.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:11 AM
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10. Very sad story.
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 12:12 AM by Old and In the Way
Bet all those Republicans, who thought they had struck issue gold back when the whole fiasco was developing in Florida, are nowhere to be found. Probably the same for the RW hucksters who saw a great opportunity to fundraise.....milked that scene dry.



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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:12 AM
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11. And who actually believes the GOP is gonna pay real money to keep
these most unfortunate people alive. They had plenty of chances, just had to make the fake Terry bill apply to all US citizens, but hell no, they try to pass a law knowing its unconstitutional because the bill only applied to her. Sick fucks these so called GOP pro lifers are.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:17 AM
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13. a PROFITABLE 'fight'
appalling, and just what the hell is "the euthanasia cult"? these two poor souls have allowed themselves to be coopted by far right fundies and will be discarded like used kleenex the MOMENT they've outlived their usefullness or stray one whit from the 'party line'. i just bet at some point they recant this crap, probably in a couple years.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 01:20 AM
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14. Wow, think they're trying to get more money out of it?
I know, I know, it's like asking is the there going to be a bleep on any given episode of South Park. :P

Think the republics might b really good to us and try to stand behind that family to 'protect' the 'innocent'?
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 01:25 AM
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15. Keeping up the fight.
Let's dig 'er up and stick in that feeding tube.

Terry smiled at me. She's watching TV. Terry's gone out for a walk. Now she's on a pogo stick.
:sarcasm:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 01:25 AM
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16. Well then they need to go to Texas
Because that's the state where they're pulling plugs without the family's permission.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:50 AM
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17. WHAT "growing culture of euthanasia"?
Aside from the Terri, there's been practically NO PRESS regarding this subject... it's not as though roving bands of renegade judges are popping IV's out of comatose patients' arms right and left, hah?


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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:06 AM
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18. New Book release, websitefor speaker's tour - Terry Industry could
become the new term in our lifetime.

If you would like someone from the Schindler Family to speak at an upcoming event, please contact the Nashville Speakers Bureau.

All speaking fees earned by the Schindler family are paid directly to the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation Center for Health Care Ethics, the sister organization to the Terri Schindler Schiavo Foundation.
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Nomen Tuum Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:14 AM
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20. Keep the cash register going folks
The Schindlers are lower than scum. Someday, they will be held accountable for turning their daughter into a cash register...
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:17 AM
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21. "The growing culture of euthanasia"
Unplugging a person who has been brain dead for 15 years is not euthanasia assholes.

:banghead:

I understand these people's pain, it can't be easy to loose a child, but for fuck's sake they should learn to cope with it in a better way. They need some counciling and to finally mourn their daughter once and for all.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:02 AM
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29. First the "radical homosexual agenda", now this ...
what's next "the creeping topology of organic foods"? The mind boggles with what could be forced onto our great nation.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:26 AM
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22. I wish these people would win Megamillions so they'd disappear
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:01 PM
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37. Might not work. What if it's the attention that they're after?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:27 AM
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23. How long before the Michael-Schiavo-is-garbage people show up?
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:03 PM
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47. Believe me, Lost
I got somethin for their ass

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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:29 AM
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24. Then they need to get their asses to Texas where the family
has absolutely NO say.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:29 AM
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25. Pro life only for those who don't want it.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:31 AM
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26. Oh My Fucking God! Don't these brain dead people ever give up?
Or is it just sour grapes that make them so nasty.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:04 AM
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27. Their fifteen minutes of fame
are up . . . but the paychecks from the religious Reich are just too much to ignore . . .
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:19 AM
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28. I thought the euthenasia were rioting
or was that the eutheneurope?
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:32 AM
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30. Olbermann's interview w/Michael S. was very revealing about Schindlers
From the interview transcript:

SCHIAVO: I think the Schindlers got caught up in the right to life movement. I believe they have sold their souls to these people. I do believe that her mother understands. I do believe her mother knew that this was Terri‘s wish.

But her mother was kind of controlled. So, as far as the rest of the Schindlers, I mean, if you look at her sister and brother before the media showed up, I think I can count on one hand in the last 10 years that Bobby ever visited Terri.

Suzanne, I don‘t think she ever visited Terri.

I mean, when Bobby walked into the nursing home prior to Woodside, they had to ask him for identification because they didn‘t know who he was. And to stand out there and say the things he said just blew my mind.

OLBERMANN: What changed them in your opinion? What—was there guilt that motivated them at that point? You say that your former in-laws had sold their souls to those—to the activists. Was that—what made this all happen this way inside them do you think?

SCHIAVO: I believe that they have been fed so much information through the Randall Terry‘s of the world, through the coalitions, the right to life coalitions, they were just inundate with this stuff and fed them power and gave them power to do what they were doing.

Like I said, with their father, I don‘t want to get into any back stabbing or anything like that, but a little greed with him. I believe her that mother, like I said, who really knew that this was Terri‘s wish. If you can watch Terri‘s mother throughout that whole proceeding, especially at the end when she made her speeches, you can tell that she was told what to say.

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Full transcript and video here:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12053746/

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BlueInPhilly Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:40 AM
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31. From Ben Stiller's Look-alike
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 10:42 AM by BlueInPhilly
Terri's brother, Bobby Schindler, said the foundation will work to eliminate the "persistent vegetative state" diagnosis and to have feeding tubes for severely injured patients considered ordinary, not extraordinary, care.


And replace it with what? Hasn't this been decided by the medical community?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:47 AM
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53. I'm sure all the insurance companies will be fighting hard for this, too!
Really, I am!

Really!

I

...

Calling "dr" frist!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:25 AM
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33. This is interesting to me because of Terri's Mom
I've beens saying for a long time (even before the freak show last year), that I felt Terri's mom was sincere, and I got a decent vibe off of her... then, she seemed to morph into something totally different, and started saying nutty stuff. The siblings, especially, creeped me out. And the dad? Forget it...
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:45 AM
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32. I take it their bank accounts are running low again?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:34 AM
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34. Wonder if they'll change tunes if one of them gets a debilitating illness?
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:42 PM
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36. The growing culture of right wing bible thumping fanatics....
Trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives...and even how they are supposed to die....is far more accurate!!!

I'm done feeling sorry for these people...I wish they would just go away!!!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:08 PM
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38. "....focus on educating"
That much I have to agree with.

Starting with the Schindlers and Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.

On second thought- the Kansas Senator, like his Oklahoma colleage Inhofe- is a lost cause.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:19 PM
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39. The parents are victims too, in a way.
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 04:20 PM by Odin2005
The fundie fuckers are taking advantage of the parents' grief-based denial for political purposes.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:05 PM
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48. What makes you think they are less responsible than their
fundie fucker friends?

Seems to me that it's just displacing the blame one more step.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:24 PM
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40. They shoot horses, don't they?
Grand old flick.

We'll let animals die with dignity, but not people. Oh no. God wants you to suffer. :sarcasm:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:30 PM
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41. The really weird thing about all this is that most people are scared
to death of being "hooked up to a machine"! From what I hear, that happens all to often because the people don't discuss this ahead of time with family members and don't put their wishes down in writing in a proper legally binding document. Check your state laws and take care of this right now. Sometimes being hooked up to a machine is a bridge that gives the body time to heal. It kept my dad alive as he recovered from a stroke 29 years ago and he's still alive, well and working. Sometimes it allows a family time to gather to say good-bye in the case of an accident. That's happened several times in my extended family. It's cruel to use them to stretch out a natural expected death such as end-stage Alzheimer's , cancer or heart disease.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:21 PM
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46. I see people kept alive....
because of guilt and selfishness. Those left behind have unresolved feelings and issues with the person or the other members of the family. I think how you die is a distillation of how you lived. I have witnessed a number of deaths and all have been different. All the family dynamics come in to play.

The beautiful deaths....a man in his tiny hospital bed with his and 2 young daughter cuddeling and talking softly. A young son whispering Cajun French terms of endearment in to his elderly father's ear as he was taking his last breaths.

The heroic deaths...a man with NO audible blood pressure sitting up, talking with his family, waiting for his son to make it to his bedside-and dying only after he spoke to his son. A mother enduring hell on earth to have one more day with her baby and dieing on Easter Sunday, leaving her Pastor and I with a sense of bitter sweet joy.

The ugly deaths... having 2 sons fist fight while their dieing father is in tears, begging them to stop. But I have to say, Terry's was one of the ugliest I have heard of.


I haven't seen them all but from what I have seen, I tend to side with Michael. I base this on the fact that he was always by her side and never waivered from his statements. She received great care, even in the most difficult of circumstances. He honoured his commitment to Terry through out. I hope he can go on with his live, but as Terry's parent's seem to be unable to, I hope he can have some measure of peace.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:53 PM
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50. I wanted to say that, but I didn't have the first hand knowledge.
Thank you.

St Francis' Canticle of the Sun refers to Sister Death. None of us likes to say good-bye to a loved one, but that is different from knowing when it is time to let go. My family lost a beloved uncle a few years back. He was in his eighties but in good health. He died after tripping on the stairs and hitting his head. He was in the hospital for about two weeks and it looked at first as if he might recover, but then it was clear that he wasn't going to make it back and he made it known that it was his time and the family honored his wishes. Could we have kept him alive a few more weeks? Maybe. Probably. Would it have been right? No.
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:35 PM
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42. The Repubs deserve to lose BIG over this!
Effin' Ghouls! :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

Heaven help Michael! They must be making his life a living hell with this publicity. He may have to go into hiding to prevent some "Christian" people from killing him!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:46 PM
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43. They are sick puppies.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:09 PM
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45. Are they volunteering at nursing homes?
Nursing homes need a lot of help. They can stay at the bedside of someone with end stage Alzheimer's, Parkinson's disease, or perhaps a terminal brain tumor and help feed, bath and clean incontinence. Across the country these people are LIVING, and are NOT being "euthanized" Nurses, nursing assistants and other staff do their very best despite budget cuts and understaffing to care for people like these. Some have tube feedings, and they will die with tube feedings, with their lungs filling until they can no longer breathe because the body just isn't going to work any more. This scenario is much more common than "pulling the plug" Jesus.
I worked in a nursing home for 11 years. And most families, even the ones who kept their loved ones "full codes" necessitating multiple trips to the hospital, picking up resistant infections, knew when it was time to let go. I have sat at many a deathbed surrounded by grieving family members, who managed to give their loved one a little dignity at the end.

If these people really want to make a difference, I suggest they spent part of each week at a nursing home, rehab center, burn center, Cancer center. They can read to dying children. They can show patience to a senile elderly person who says the same thing over and over. They can learn how to show empathy and love to those who have lost, or are losing a family member

What they are doing now is the height of hypocrisy. Because whatever their honest personal beliefs, they have spend enough time with their daughter where she died to have seen what happens to others, to see the need of others. Other families have different choices. Evidently they think they are more qualified to make these choices for others.

"Cult of Euthanasia" Bullshit.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:35 PM
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49. My Mom and her Living Will
I was her Health Proxy and had POA. Months before she went into the hospital, she not only made out her Living Will, but planned and paid for all her funeral arrangements.

She told me, "I do not want to be kept alive as a vegetable, as some kind of science experiment to see how long my body can be kept alive. When my mind goes, I am no longer here. Let me go. If you do not follow my wishes, when I do die, I will come back and haunt you for the rest of your life."

Can that be any clearer? The government AND the Schindler's need to let people die in peace, according to how the individuals so choose.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 11:08 PM
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51. euthanasia cult----god, are they ever creepy
if you weren't already dead wouldn't you die if your parents did this to you?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 03:41 AM
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54. Maybe they can take their fight to Texas
To overturn the "Futile Care Law" their pal GWB signed into effect when he was Gubna--you know, the law that allows hospitals and physicians to cut off care for people not expected to recover if people can't afford to pay for it. Apparently he's only "pro-life" for rich folk. :eyes:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 11:43 AM
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55. Schiavo's Parents Vow To Keep Up Huck$tering
"This sure beats working!"
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