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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:01 AM
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'Innocent Until Proved Guilty?' (Con Artist's Machine = Pentagon $$$)
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/print?id=1786421

March 30, 2006 — - A Pentagon study obtained by ABC News finds that a new kind of voice lie detector used by the U.S. military and American police departments is no better than "flipping a coin" in detecting lies. Until the Pentagon ordered a halt to its use, the Voice Stress Analyzer was being used by military intelligence interrogators at Guantanamo Bay and in Iraq. Several suspected terrorists were released from custody based on the machine's results and former Iraqi deputy prime minister Tariz Aziz was one of the many "high value targets" who were hooked up to the now discredited machine.

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"Police departments have paid $10,000 per system over the last 18 years and rely on it exclusively for truth verification," said Charles Humble, chairman and CEO of the National Institute for Truth Verification, which sells the CVSA. "We have a remarkable record of success."

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"This device is nothing more than a prop," said John Palmatier, who earned a doctorate in psychology and who studied the machine for the Michigan State Police Department, where he worked. He said his study along with others found no scientific basis for Humble's claims.

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Instead, the diploma on his office wall, which reads "Doctor of Psychology," is an honorary degree, awarded by a Bible college in Indiana that used to have an office in the strip mall where Humble's first office was located.

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Finally, Humble claims his firm sold more than a million dollars worth of his machines to the U.S. military.

...more...

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=FL&last=Humble&first=Charles

Well, what a surprise! All his political contributions seem to lean to the GOPpiggies!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:03 AM
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1. what idiots ...most people know these things are unreliable ...
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 12:54 AM
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2. GREAT find tying campaign contributions to fraud
Thank you for indicting a bushbot with fact and not innuendo. It adds tremendous credibilty to our fight!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 03:28 AM
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3. God, could this story be filled with any more irony?
A guy named "Humble" is actually a pompous ass, and he sells "Truth" detector machines, but he lies about his qualifications and credentials. :crazy: :eyes:
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JohnnyJ Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 04:01 AM
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4. Considering the Pentagon is throwing money around like candy what do.....
expect?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:44 AM
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5. There's a post with the video over in GD -
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 05:57 AM
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6. A consultant for Diebold no doubt.
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bigworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:27 AM
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7. Here are pix of Humble and the rest of the staff
... including the company helicopter!

http://www.cvsa1.com/staff.php

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:49 AM
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8. Gadgets like these...
Are also very big in the radical right-wing underground. A book about "The Order"(Real name: The Silent Brotherhood) I recently read described the near-slavish devotion the violent wing of the right has to these contraptions, to vet new and prosective members.

Of course, they were useless as tits on a boar hog. FBI informants were able to slide past them with incredible ease.

Companies like this make millons off the gullible and don't care where the money comes from or what the machines are used for. In the meantime, innocent people are being vetted and rejected by flawed and fradulent technology.

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