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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:33 AM
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Fed up of being women, five Saudis change sex
RIYADH (Reuters) - Five Saudi women have undergone sex change operations because they developed a psychologic complex in the male-dominated Muslim society, a newspaper reported on Monday.

Al Watan newspaper quoted psychology expert Mohamed Abdelmawjoud as saying the operations took place over a year's period. Authorities did not bother any of them, according to the report.

An interior ministry official told the paper such cases are examined by religious authorities, and sometimes by psychologists, but never get arrested.

But a senior cleric said authorities have to fill a legal vacuum by issuing laws against sex change operations.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060403/hl_nm/saudi_sex_dc
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:45 AM
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1. Sheesh...it's a good thing * sees the Saudis as being the forward-thinking
Arab nation.

You'd think they were imposing strict restrictions on their women or something.

:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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Samurai_Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:04 PM
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2. I wouldn't want to be a woman in Saudi Arabia either
And the way the US is going, women here won't have it much better for long.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:18 PM
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3. i dont get it.... these women got a surgically attached penis?
i didn't think it was possible.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 02:20 PM
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5. are you sure you really want the details?
they are widely available elsewhere on the fabulous internets

there's a lot more to it than sticking a cheney in front

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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 02:29 PM
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6. Some plastic surgeons are artists.
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:00 AM
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8. There are several options, IMO not optimal
The technology is still in development. Like another poster explained, there's a lot more to gender reassignment than just sewing on a penis and reshaping the chest. For an FtM (person going from female to male), the largest physical transformation is done by hormones. That's what causes the masculinization changes which are most evident to others, such as lowering of the voice, increase of muscle mass, and redistribution of fat from female patterns to male patterns.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:10 AM
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11. It is easy to grow a Chia penis!
Just apply the Chia gel to the appropriate region and, voila, in a few days you will have a Chia penis. Spend a little more money and you can get the Chia penis with the Clapper. Instant erection by just clapping your hands, and no Viagra!
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:14 AM
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12. Alfalfa sprout salad, anyone? :: evil grin ::
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:59 AM
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15. If men were penises I might be straight.
But they aren't, so I'm just a girl who likes butch lesbians with strap-ons. Men are more than penises. Little do they know, many of them.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:21 PM
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4. who would't choose to be a man, under that kind of opression.
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 01:21 PM by superconnected
"Saudi Arabia adopts an austere form of Islam, which requires women to cover up in public and bans them from driving or going out unaccompanied by a male relative."
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:00 AM
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9. Um, someone who knew herself to be female?
This isn't something transfolk do because they "want the privileges of men", regardless of if it is in Saudi Arabia or the United States.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:57 AM
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14. The answer to your question, madamsir..
is the male-to-female transsexuals in Saudi Arabia.
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DarkmoonIkonoklast Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 06:09 AM
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16. and to think we ally ourselves with such freedom-loving people!
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:51 PM
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7. So there are five FTMs who transitioned in a year in Saudi Arabia?
IMO this isn't the result of the oppressive society--which clearly *is* repressive--but something more like the normal rate of transition, being blown up to make it "news."

How many MTF Saudis transitioned in the same year?

Tucker
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:08 AM
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10. This is legal in Iran, incidentally
Saudi clerics might issue their laws, but Iranian clerics have made different decisions. In Iran, the thinking that leads to legal and state-funded gender reassigment is based in anti-homosexual bias. Because a transgendered person, before transition, cannot enter into a marriage that is heterosexual in body and spirit, gender transition is allowed.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 12:54 AM
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13. Hey Formerly Aunt Jen! Great to see ya!
Yeah, this was the initial reason for TG research in the US as well, to make straights out of gays. Oops, didn't quite work that way.
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