Fitzgerald Knew Identity of Leaker From Start

[Roland99]

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040306Z.shtml

The special counsel appointed in late December 2003 to investigate the leak of covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson found out the identity of the Bush administration official who disclosed her undercover status to syndicated columnist Robert Novak just two months after the probe began.

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The Bush administration official was given an ultimatum: either cooperate with the special counsel's probe or face criminal charges for his involvement in the leak, attorneys close to the case said.

The senior official decided to cooperate with the investigation and told Fitzgerald that Libby and Rove spoke to reporters about Plame Wilson, the attorneys said.

The official has been identified by attorneys and four current and former White House officials as John Hannah, a senior national security aide on loan to Vice President Dick Cheney from then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton.

[waiting for hope]

1. Senior national security aide?

Man, that's a crapper......National Security my ass, the man should be tarred and feathered!

[mzteris]

13. I KNEW Hannah was involved!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2150350#2150380

[meisje]

22. I KNEW Fritz knew something!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

23. Fritz who?

:shrug:

[PegDAC]

35. Please tell me you're kidding. n/t

[Zhade]

36. Note the misspelling.

NT!

[lala_rawraw]

46. Raw reported it early on n/t

[Mandate My Ass]

2. I knew bolton was in on this

treasonous bastid.:mad:

[stop the bleeding]

3. Kicking for awareness, Roland99

I am posting on the GD thread with this story - just an FYI, I will check back to see what other people have added.

Thanks again!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x828043

[montanacowboy]

4. kick

[Roland99]

8. Ah, didn't see that. Just saw this posted on RawStory!

[Roland99]

51. oops...this thread took the homepage thunder from ya.

Kudos out to you, though! :)

[salin]

5. Looks like that tipping point, at least on this case, is about to get a

lot closer to the "quail hunter."

[BootinUp]

6. Fitz is da man. n/t

[LeftHander]

7. Now we know the recess appointment for Bolton...

They administration went to the mat for Bolton and he rewarded them with silence.

Arms control. He knew.


The forged Niger document author is going to be revealed....BOLTON under Cheney direction.


But with the President able to do anything he needs to fight the war on terror. No crime will of been committed.

Here comes the right wing..."Where's the crime?" mantra....

[stop the bleeding]

9. keeping Bolton free for the GOP pigs is part of their post 9/11 thinking

shucks it's all in the name of fighting terror and keeping good ole Merica safe.

Your right the GOP Congress will do nothing

[redqueen]

10. Why should they?

They know their constituents are foaming at the mouth, breathlessly waiting for their fearless leader to tell them which rights they should give up next... which crimes they should defend their fearless leader for comitting...

It's downright sickening to see how low the right in this country have sunk...

and STILL no end in sight!

[Roland99]

12. Wonder how much Bolton had to do with UN Resolution 1637?

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2005/sc8550.doc.htm

[LaCrosseDem]

38. in a time of war...

blah, blah, blah

[xxqqqzme]

18. or the second mantra of choice

this is old news - no one is interested in this anymore.

[coalition_unwilling]

20. I wonder whether anyone can be prosecuted under

a general reading of "fraud against the U.S." statutes? That seems to me to answer the question fo "Where's the crime?", aside from the blatant violation of the statute regarding non-disclosure of undercover intelligence assets.

Thus, if Hannah can provide documentation that his leak came upon the direct orders of Cheney (via email, logs or, perish the notion, audio- or video-tapes), that statutory violation can be coupled with the crime of the original forgery of the documents perhaps coming from John Bolton, which is the "fraud" portion of the case. That is, intentionally forging documents to influence the policies and actions of the U.S. government would seem to constitute an act of fraud upon the people\taxpayers of the U.S.

Or am I missing something here?

[Lasher]

43. Aha! Remember when John Bolton visited Judith Miller in jail?

People were wondering what that was all about. Well, the thick plotens doesn't it?

[Nothing Without Hope]

57. That was intimidation. All he had to do is LOOK at her, and she would

be reminded of the consequences if she told all she knew. I've always thought that Bolton was involved.

[Janice325]

11. K&R

Thanks for the link.

[dubyaD40web]

14. Oh my

"Sources said that Fitzgerald is now preparing the paperwork to present to a grand jury outlining the charges against Rove in hopes of securing an indictment."

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. Sounds like Fitzster to me!

Now sit back and enjoy the implosion.

[brer cat]

34. Is it too soon to start coloring Fitzster eggs?

I think lots of yellow ones would be appropriate this year to honor the *chickenhawks.

[PegDAC]

37. I'm getting ready for Fitz-o de Mayo n/t

:7 :party: :toast: :beer: :bounce: :headbang: :woohoo:

[crispini]

32. SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!

Here it goes!
:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[0007]

16. Finally! That fucking rat is nailed against the wall and no place to run!

Rove told FBI investigators on five occasions and testified twice before a grand jury that he distributed damaging information about Plame to the Republican National Committee, outside political consultants and the media after Novak had disclosed her identity, according to the attorneys who are familiar with Rove's testimony.

However, Rove was actually a source for Novak and another reporter who wrote about Plame Wilson but failed to disclose that fact in nearly a dozen times he was questioned about his role in the leak.

Sources said that Fitzgerald is now preparing the paperwork to present to a grand jury outlining the charges against Rove in hopes of securing an indictment.

The attorneys close to the case said that in order to build a rock-solid perjury and obstruction case against Libby, Fitzgerald needed to secure the testimony of the journalists Libby spoke to about Plame Wilson.

The investigation surely would have ended in 2004, the attorneys said, but journalists Fitzgerald subpoenaed went to court to fight the subpoena and the legal challenge delayed the case for nearly a year.

[karynnj]

25. In a way the journalists are quilty of allowing all these people

to continue the havoc they were creating. If they would have told the truth in 2004, they would be gone. Instead, look what they've done to the world.

[ClintonTyree]

47. And these people are still employed.....why?

Didn't our great leader :puke: make a promise to the American people that anyone leaking the name of a CIA agent would NO LONGER be working within HIS administration?

george bush is as good as his word. In other words, he's worthless! :nuke: :grr: :nuke:

It's past time for mere censure, anything less than impeachment would be a grave miscarriage of justice. The country needs a special election to wipe every trace of bush and his cabal from our government.

[SoCalDem]

56. Delayed it long enough to steal another election

:grr: bastards

[lovuian]

17. I'm glad Hannah is cooperating its not right to take full blame for

this when it was Bush & Cheney who ordered it... if it gets to Rove and Libby the Bush and Cheney underlings going to jail... its not right that their masters get away scot free...

Novak ended up squeeling...I'm glad he's off the air he sickens me...

[hang a left]

27. "He's no partisan gunslinger"

By butt cheeks.

[Roland99]

29. I wonder why Fitz isn't giving up the real leaker, though.

Unless he's playing the rest to show conspiracy and rack up as many indictments as he can.

[Just Me]

19. Is this boil ripe, yet?

My patience is worn on all this,...shit.

[LaCrosseDem]

39. yeah... lance that sucker

Pus: what a perfect symbol for the Boosh administration

[mom cat]

21. You are on a roll, Roland!

:toast:

[Boxerfan]

24. Where's the crime???- TREASON!

At a time of war....Punishable by death:evilgrin:

[keopeli]

26. Real treason and impeachable offenses

I thought it would be helpful to distinguish true treasonous acts from fake ones.

Not treason: wearing a hajib head covering in Iraq by freed hostage

Real treason: leaking national security secrets, severely undermining our defenses

Not treason: an extra-marital blow-job from an intern

Real treason: invading the privacy of Americans by spying without a warrant


Thanks to Truthout for what looks like the first real reasonable deduction of who demolished our worldwide WMD covert program at the CIA.

link

[Sadie5]

28. I love it when they finally get nailed

They squeal like pigs!!! Ha! Ha!Ha!

[aquart]

48. Could I have this on a billboard, please?

Preferably in front of the Capitol building?

[TroglodyteScholar]

30. (monty burns voice) excellent.........n/t

:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

[Imagevision]

31. And they're still able to keep this off the evening news??...

Just when you think the media has takenm a turn it swings back in Bush's corner???

[worldgonekrazy]

40. I think the media doesn't know how to report it yet

At this point the whole thing is pretty convoluted with a lot of twists and "what ifs." Once charges are actually brought and the issue is boiled down to a set of specific charges, then (hopefully) the mainstream media will pick it up.

[ClintonTyree]

49. If we'd waited for that during Watergate.......

Nixon would have ended up serving his second full term. The media WAS the investigation in the early stages back then. Woodward and Bernstein turned over a lot of rocks to find the slugs in Nixon's administration. If it was left to the government investigation it would have ended with burglary charges against Liddy and the plumbers. Must we hold a gun to the media's head in order for them to report any of this? Why are they so scared to dig below the surface, what are they scared of finding?
I'll tell you what they'll find! Another Republican administration gone wild, committing crimes left and right... ending once again in impeachment of a Republican President. I guess they don't want to seem "too liberal" :eyes: so in the interest of being "fair and balanced" they do nothing! :puke:
The corporate media is hiding, they're scared shitless. They're cowards! Isn't there ONE freaking journalist out there that wants to break from the herd and do some REAL INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING? :mad:

[Loge23]

33. What does Leopold really know?

This is a continuing series of leak articles by Leopold about an investigation that has been, up until now, airtight.
Last week, Leopold told us that the coming indictments targeted Rove and Hadley. This week it's been downsized to just Rove.
While everyone here including me would love to see this thing play out with more indictments, I think it's prudent to wait for Fitz to make the call. Leopold offers no solid proof of his contacts, knowledge, or stated information.
Truthout may be getting a little truthiness.

[NashVegas]

41. I Dunno

I'm more curious about the motivation for these new leaks. It looks like someone wants Fitzie to wrap things up, and fast.

[lala_rawraw]

44. He knows a great deal and just because two are named last week

Does not mean that one being named this week rules out the other one. News is reported as it comes in. Leopold need not offer solid proof other than his record, which is stellar.

[Chomskyite]

42. This was the same site that published Wayne Madsen

I'm not getting my hopes up.

[lala_rawraw]

45. Truthout? You are kidding? Have you seen the names

of People who write for Truth OUt? If not, you may want to check it out and btw, DUs own Will Pitt writes for TO, so please don't diss what most of us respect as a credible publication.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

50. Has anyone ever seen a picture of Hannah? Why haven't I?

Is he undercover? Why are there no photos of this man??

[Imagevision]

52. The Fitz investigations couldn't have come at a better time

[Rebellious Republican]

53. Hey TankLV, I called this back in June, remember? As I recall

you said "You obviously can't read OR comprehend".
"It's a waste of time trying to explain the obvious to you".

Guess I do know how to read and comprehend.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1527864

[rpannier]

54. Sounds to me like this Hannah person

is a lifelong scrub-hater. He's probably a member of that secret society of gay-loving, pedophile, osama worshiping, muslim extremists that this administration has warned us about from the start. I'm sure there will be more to come on this individuals anti-American ideology (For example, he probably supports the Constitution over scrubbie) on the freak republik, Capt. Oxycotin show and the shill o'lielly factless.

[fearnobush]

55. Happy Good Fitzday Everyone.

"Sources said that Fitzgerald is now preparing the paperwork to present to a grand jury outlining the charges against Rove in hopes of securing an indictment."

[Trevelyan]

58. Good news for a change!! I had given up on Fitzmas. Time to get out the

decorations? What was that site with an interactive Fitzmas tree? Never did go to put the star on the tree, now is the time.