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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:24 PM
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U.S. to create a bird flu virus mutation
The six-month series of experiments seeks to simulate the mixing and matching of genes from the H5N1 avian flu virus that has plagued Asia and a common human flu virus that public-health experts fear could turn avian flu into a pandemic, the Wall Street Journal reported Thursday

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050324-030452-8400r.htm
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:26 PM
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1. It's not passing to humans as quickly as they'd like? nt
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:28 PM
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2. Panic
Not enough panic in the streets yet for election 2006 I guess.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:55 PM
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5. If they could only connect bird flu to homosexual immigrants...
Welcome to DU!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:12 PM
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7. so you saw "V for Vendetta" also
Edited on Mon Apr-03-06 06:12 PM by DBoon
nt
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:29 PM
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8. Actually, no, I haven't.
I may go this weekend.
Maybe I should try my hand at writing screenplays.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:35 PM
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3. Why?
It's not mutating fast enough for them or something?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:37 PM
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10. HIV doesn't kill fast enough
they can release it into the wild, have a plausible denial and a vaccine for those who 'deserve' it.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 07:21 PM
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12. Don't know that this is true
But I can't say it's false, either. This Admin. seems to have a disturbing obesession w/biowarfare & vaccines. Remember the anthrax attacks?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 12:39 PM
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4. this is the Washington Times, not Wall Street Journo
it's a dupe, too -- check greatest page
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 01:26 PM
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6. America is doing biowarfare this is just amazing
how they are playing God... this creeps me out...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 06:31 PM
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9. They'd already identified
the genetic makeup of Spanish Flu from pathology samples stored since 1918. It was as a result of that they managed to figure what enables the spread and rate of infection i.e combined avian ,which doesn't transmit easily ,and normal flu which does so.

Playing around with "the new kid on the block" is unlikely to have anything other than a positive outcome although would have no bearing on subsequent mutations.

It's interesting that hospitals your side already have permission to use their underground carparks as morturies and this side mass burials have already been agreed to be the only practical solution.

Broadly speaking it is felt that if you had Asian flu 1968 you may have a higher degree of protection. If not then be afraid - very afraid. And - don't be so dismissive of the thought of stocking tuna and powdered milk
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 07:06 PM
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11. where is the info about carparks as mortuaries/burials from?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 10:31 PM
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13. Here is the link ref .mass burial
This is just one of them : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4869224.stm It's only from 2 days ago as you can see.

The other ref., to the USA, was part of a documentary , made this year , which also had the section about defining the genetic make up of the 1918 virus. I'll have a root around later to see if I can find the documentary by name.
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NorthernSun Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-03-06 11:49 PM
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14. Bird Flu hoax?
This independent expert says the scare is a hoax so they need to make it real maybe .. Gainsville Sun
http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051101/LOCAL/51101021/1078/news

Butcher has been an extension veterinarian at the University of Florida's College of Veterinary Medicine since 1988. He was trained as a veterinarian specializing in avian diseases, and has a Ph.D. in poultry virology.

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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:28 AM
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15. Notwithstnading
what you get fed in the USA. On the this issue we get the truth here in England.
I have read the article you attached. I can only assume that when avian flu combined with normal flu back in 1928 that 25 million or so only assumed that they died - guess they must all have been economists.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 04:48 AM
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16. I can't find the documentary
to which I referred. It was aired here late Feb/early March and don't recall whether is was one of the BBC or ITV channels or a Cable channel. I recall that mention of identifying the genetic sequence of the 1918 flu was the first reference to that subject I'd come across - I hadn't previously known that there were stored pathology samples from 1918. Reference to the hospital carparks in the USA, not here - we dont generally have those, was with respect to their underground carparks which tend to remain cool. They recognised that the actual hospital buildings would have insufficient storage capacity prior to burial.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-04-06 08:24 AM
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17. Anyone else notice this admin's obsession w/birds & killing them?
Are we at war with Eurasia or Eastasia?


Taking life is saving life
Black is white
Slavery is freedom
War is peace
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