Iraq's interior ministry refusing to deploy US-trained police

[Eugene]

Iraq's interior ministry refusing to deploy US-trained police

· Plans for non-sectarian force under threat
· Rice insists that power of militias must be curbed

Jonathan Steele in Baghdad
Tuesday April 4, 2006
The Guardian

Iraq's interior ministry is refusing to deploy thousands of police recruits
who have been trained by the US and the UK and is hiring its own men and
putting them on the streets, according to western security advisers.

The move is frustrating US and British efforts to build up a non-sectarian
Iraqi police force which would not be infiltrated by partisan militias.

The disclosure highlights growing US and British concern about the role of militias
in sectarian killings, and their links to senior Iraqi politicians. "You can't have
in a democracy various groups with arms - you have to have the state with a monopoly
on power," Condoleeza Rice, the US secretary of state, said at the end of her
two-day visit to Baghdad yesterday.

<snip>

The interior ministry, which is controlled by the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution
(SCIRI), has not deployed any graduates of the civilian police assistance training team (CPATT),
a joint US/UK unit, for the past three months.

<snip>

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1746233,00.html

Can we finally agree now that Iraq situation is now FUBAR?

[DLnyc]

1. Kindasleazy 's idea of democracy

--"You can't have
in a democracy various groups with arms - you have to have the state with a monopoly
on power," Condoleeza Rice, the US secretary of state, said at the end of her
two-day visit to Baghdad yesterday.--

Don't want to quibble, but I would call a "state with a monopoly
on power" a dictatorship, not a democracy.

[drduffy]

2. nicely said

and also..... a good portion of the violence is from death squads who bear a striking resemblance to those in central america during negroponte's tour.......hum.....

[DLnyc]

3. Yes, Reality and Perception hardly know each other!

Also from article:

--
"We have sent very, very strong messages repeatedly, and not just on this visit, that one of the first things ... is that there is going to be a reining in of the militias... It's got to be one of the highest priorities."
__

1982-2006 IranContraCo (Propaganda and War)

[rodeodance]

12. Rice must like the monopoly in the US!

Don't want to quibble, but I would call a "state with a monopoly
on power" a dictatorship, not a democracy.

[Roland99]

4. So, the training has become a money pit and the US will stay longer

The militias want to wrest control of Iraq but in trying to do so, they are causing the US troops to end up staying longer in Iraq.

[HuffleClaw]

5. the 'sovereign' iraq is playing right into bushco.'s hands

with this move. funny how this happens RIGHT after condi shows up though. next will come a request for us troops to 'back off' or some such.

[struggle4progress]

6. Iranian militiamen were brought in by Britain

MILITIAMEN from an Iranian-backed force were deliberately recruited by Britain to join the new Iraqi security services after Saddam Hussein was overthrown, the Government has admitted.

The sectarian Badr organisation, trained in exile by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, is suspected of violently pursuing its own agenda after being allowed to enlist in national units. John Reid, the Defence Secretary, disclosed in a Commons written answer to the Plaid Cymru MP Adam Price that it had been official policy to welcome the Shia gunmen.

“Following the end of the conflict in Iraq, the Coalition Provision Authority sought to reintegrate militia members into civil society,” Mr Reid said. “This process included members of the Badr organisation, formerly known as the Badr Corps, among others.”

Sunnis have accused the Badr organisation of torturing prisoners, a claim rejected by the Shia-dominated Government. Bayar Jabor, the Interior Minister, was a member of the militia. The organisation’s stronghold is southern Iraq, where British troops have been based since the war. <snip>

http://egyptelection.com/content/view/252/1/

[CornField]

7. The whole thing is an ignorant mess.

If we'd actually had thinking leaders, we wouldn't be in this mess -- and so many would not have to had given up their lives for nothing more than lies and failed foreign policy.

[CornField]

8. Iraq's interior ministry refusing to deploy US-trained police

http://indiamonitor.com/news/readNews.jsp?ni=11204

Iraq's interior ministry is refusing to deploy thousands of police recruits who have been trained by the US and the UK and is hiring its own men and putting them on the streets, according to western security advisers.
The move is frustrating US and British efforts to build up a non-sectarian Iraqi police force which would not be infiltrated by partisan militias.

The disclosure highlights growing US and British concern about the role of militias in sectarian killings, and their links to senior Iraqi politicians.

...

The interior ministry, which is controlled by the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution (SCIRI), has not deployed any graduates of the civilian police assistance training team (CPATT), a joint US/UK unit, for the past three months.

Looks like formerly secular Iraq is becoming more and more fundamentalist. The US & UK are griping about the lack of use of their civilian police graduates... Iraq is upset about its lack of control over the process.

If this keeps up, freedom may stop marching.

[pacalo]

9. Well, that should put the pin in the party hog.

I keep thinking about all the former generals who thought it was a bad idea to go to Iraq. What a mess.

[rodeodance]

13. so, we spend $ and troop lives and the minister hires his own force. well,

this is beyond a mess.

[pacalo]

15. Exactly.

[Roland99]

10. Duplicate (look about a dozen or so threads down)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2205686

[coolslasher]

11. insurgents

i hope they are not insurgents!

[bemildred]

14. Gee, who could have predicted this?

Condo is right about the state monopoly on power and all that, that's sort of the problem in Iraq, thanks to us, but it takes a certain kind of fool to think the militias that have stepped into the power vacuum we have left in place for three years are just going to put their guns down and salute the new stooge police at this point. If Condo wants a monopoly on force, she's going to have to take it by force.

[NYC]

16. Are these some of the people Bernard Kerik

was training?

I haven't heard much about him lately.