Pentagon admits to surveillance of gay groups, releases documents

[PageOneQ]

http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/sldn_041106.html

The Servicemember's Legal Defense Network has released documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act from the Department of Defense, which confirm the military's surveillance of organizations working to repeal the Military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy, PageOneQ has learned.

"The very idea that the federal government believes freedom of speech is a threat to national security is unconscionable," Steve Ralls, Servicemember's Legal Defense Network’s Director of Communications told PageOneQ today. “The Pentagon has acknowledged that collection of the information was perhaps inappropriate,” Mr. Ralls said as he cited an earlier report by United Press International on the Pentagon’s admission.

http://pageoneq.com/news/2006/sldn_041106.html

[BOSSHOG]

1. "Perhaps inappropriate?"

Ya think. And the pentagon pays some limpdick hundreds of thousands of dollars to say shit like that. And what of value came out of this security? Absolutely nothing.

[jayfish]

2. Is This A Violation Of Law?

Why is the military engaged in domestic surveillance?

Jay

[rodeodance]

4. Why and How much taxpaper $$ have they used to snoop?

[AndyTiedye]

9. It Used to Be…

…when we still had laws.

[rodeodance]

3. says 'perhaps inappropriate" is that all?

[Seen the light]

5. Is there a master list out there of all the illegal things the feds have

done since Bush took power?

I'm sick of the stupid Freepers saying "Well, the government may have these new powers, but where are the cases of it abusing it, huh?!?!?!?!?!" I want a massive list that shows all of the things they have done wrong.

[Judi Lynn]

6. They might want to take a peek in Plato's Retreat in New York

You never know who they might discover:

John Bolton's Divorce – Group Sex Allegations
Friday, 13 May 2005, 11:43 am
Press Release: Larry Flynt

John R. Bolton Court Divorce Records Show His First
Wife Fled Home When He Was Traveling Abroad

From Larry Flynt
http://www.larryflynt.com/bolton/

Publisher Larry Flynt's Questions Posed to State Department Regarding Corroborated Allegations that First Wife was Forced into Group Sex go Unanswered

May 11-LOS ANGELES - Court records concerning the divorce of John R. Bolton, the Bush administration's nominee to become the next ambassador to the United Nations, show his first wife fled the couple's marital home when he was traveling abroad in mid-August 1982. The records further show that she took most of the couple's furniture.

allegations that Mr. Bolton's first wife, Christina Bolton, was forced to engage in group sex have not been refuted by the State Department despite inquires posed by Hustler magazine publisher Larry Flynt concerning the allegations. Mr. Flynt has obtained information from numerous sources that Mr. Bolton participated in paid visits to Plato's Retreat, the popular swingers club that operated in New York City in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
(snip)

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0505/S00240.htm

[Demit]

8. I have a feeling this administration could get a group discount

if all the closet types were to come out.

[JuniperLea]

10. GOP Family Values 101

I learn something new everyday!


:puke:

[gratuitous]

7. ANOTHER "inappropriate" mistake

Golly gee, but there sure seem to be a lot of them since Chimpy took office. So many government agencies dabbling in domestic spying, and none of them with authorization, legal or apparently otherwise.

For our lurking friends who figure that "if you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about," what if you shared a name with one of these people wrongfully spied on (say, Jeff Gannon)? And what if someone, somewhere in the basement of some government building, decided that Jeff Gannon needed to be picked up and questioned, and instead of getting the Jeff Gannon they'd spied on, they got you? And these guys decided that the first thing you'd do is deny everything, like any scumbag enemy combatant would do . . . What's your next move?

[KansDem]

11. Don't forget if your booked and make bail, your problems worsen

So you have nothing to hide and are confident you will be exonerated, just as soon as the facts come out in a court of law. So you are booked and make bail. I don't know what the bail is, oh, let's say $100,000. What do you do? Well, you either cough it up (which you could do if you're wealthy), or you go through a bail bondsman. His rate? Usually 10 percent. And you have to sign over $100,000 in property as collateral (do you have $100,000 in collateral?--I don't). But you have nothing to fear because you have nothing to hide. Let's say you are acquitted (you knew you would be), but what about the bondsman's cut? You owe him 10 percent. That's $10,000. Can you pay up? Chances are if you required the services of a bail bondsman in the first place, you really can't afford to reach into your change pocket and pony up $10,000. So you're in debt to the tune of $10,000 more.

All because you didn't have anything to worry about 'cause you did nothing wrong...

Rent the DVD "The Wrong Man" with Henry Fonda. Another Alfred Hitchcock classic.

[gratuitous]

13. Bail of $100,000 if you're lucky

Remember, "Jeff Gannon" is an enemy combatant, and presumably a major flight risk back to his pals in Al Qaeda. Presuming that "Jeff Gannon" is picked up by reputable law enforcement agents, and not simply disappeared into Bush's New American Gulag, bail is going to be set prohibitively high or denied altogether. In three years or so, when they finally get around to processing your sorry carcass, you'll have spent all that time in the pokey for a "crime" you didn't commit. And if you complain to the Supreme Court, they'll say, "Hey, you're getting your trial now, what's your problem?"

[951-Riverside]

12. Gee I wonder if they spy on Neo-Nazi's in the military too.

I think not.

These people make me sick its time for change

[troubleinwinter]

14. Outrageous. This shit has GOT to stop.

“The Department of Defense has now confirmed the existence of a surveillance program monitoring LGBT groups,” said C. Dixon Osburn, executive director of SLDN. “Pentagon leaders have also acknowledged inappropriately collecting some of the information in the TALON database.

Every time they get caught on this stuff, the only response is "Oooops... guess we shouldn'ta done that."

Toss 'em in jail for these violations... maybe they'll get a clue about what our freedom is about, if they lose theirs for violating ours.

[cantstandbush]

15. Yeah, but most of them voted for the Republicans...protecting their pocket

Can't say i am surprised.

[superconnected]

16. No wonder they can't catch alqueda

They're too distracted with bigotry.

[WhiteTara]

17. filled with bigotry and hypocrisy

and of course engaging in illicit sex. I thought men peaked in their sexual powress and desire in their mid 20's or so. What is with these sex crazed old men anywya/