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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:56 PM
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Autopsy links cop's death to post-9/11 work
April 11, 2006, 5:46 PM EDT

The death of a 34-year-old police detective who developed respiratory disease after working at ground zero is "directly related" to Sept. 11, 2001, a New Jersey coroner said in the first known ruling positively linking a death to post-Sept. 11 work at the World Trade Center site.

James Zadroga's family and union released his autopsy results Tuesday, saying they were proof of the first death of a city police officer related to recovery work after the terrorist attacks.

"It is felt with a reasonable degree of medical certainty that the cause of death in this case was directly related to the 9/11 incident," wrote Gerard Breton, a pathologist at the Ocean County (N.J.) medical examiner's office in the Feb. 28 autopsy.

Zadroga died on Jan. 6 of respiratory failure and had inflammation in his lung tissue due to "a history of exposure to toxic fumes and dust," Breton wrote.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/am-autopsy0412,0,4770476.story?coll=ny-nyc-bigpix

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:00 PM
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1. Rest his soul. This is what we've been dreading.
He was only 34.

:(
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:04 PM
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2. I'll never forget the Bushco-doctored EPA air quality reports for ...
... lower Manhattan in the days following 9/11.

Doctoring those reports, imho, was criminal.

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:07 PM
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3. RIP
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 10:07 PM by burrowowl
but damn the EPA liars to hell that said: all is OK around the area.
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theobscure Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:07 PM
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4. how much longer can so many American citizens callously, irresponsibly, ..
and immorally ignore the cover-ups and white washings surrounding the events and aftermath of 9/11?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:12 PM
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5. How many more are going to have to die
before people wake up to what our own government did to us?

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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:16 PM
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6. Gag Order
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 10:20 PM by simonm
I read about an FBI gag order for police and firefighters preventing them from describing the explosions on 9/11.

If true, they should all speak out before time runs out.
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:20 PM
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7. What explosions?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:23 PM
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GrumpyGreg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:31 PM
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9. Thanks !--I'll check it tomorrow--too late for me here in EDT !
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:21 AM
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11. Freaky
I just passed it on to a bunch of friends who are heavily involved
in Gold trading. Very interesting.

The world is being run by Lizard people.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:16 AM
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12. Can you briefly describe for those who don't get video?
Please?

Hekate

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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:27 AM
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14. free DVD
For anyone interested, just private message me your address and I'll mail you a copy of the DVD. It is called "loose change" second edition.
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theobscure Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:46 PM
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10. I think our heroes may turn out to be heroes yet again...
When more and more realize they are going to die anyway, they may come forward. However, I suppose that means they would risk losing any benefits for their family or forfeit any settlements they may receive. I'd love to see Hollywood and sports stars put together a fund for whistleblowers and their families.

A serious deterrent though, I must admit, is the strong likelihood that they will be ignored anyway. Most Americans have decided they don't want to hear anymore about it; no matter what the consequences are for our country and future generations.
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:31 PM
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17. They all should stand up
What good are benefits when another 9/11 event can take place? Their family and friends are not safe when the real murderers are still out there.


"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me."

-Pastor Martin Niemöller
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:50 AM
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15. I read that Canadian women can't swim.
If true, Canadian women should stay away from water.
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:20 PM
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16. Funny
The New York Times had to sue for the firefighter tapes that described the explosions. Why do you think they wanted to keep it secret? The stories about an FBI gag order is most likely true.




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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 01:01 PM
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18. Because...
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 01:09 PM by yibbehobba
...they didn't want sensationalists and conspiracy whack-jobs with absolutely no sense of shame or respect for human life to abuse the last words of thousands of dying people for their own twisted purposes. Which, as you have just demonstrated, is exactly what happened. Personally, I was in favor of the release of the tapes for other reasons, believing that despite the absolute mess the conspiracy cranks would make of the release, it was still important to the national healing process to have a record of what happened on that day.

And your suggestion that they sued for the tapes of the firefighters talking about the explosions is patent bullshit. They sued for the release of all the 911 calls. This idea that it has anything to do with the firefighters talking about explosions is another fiction created by the MIHOP hive mind.

Edit:

A bit of googling will show you that the NYT's coverage of its own lawsuit makes your assertion rubbish. And now I'm done with this particular line of conversation, because this isn't the right room for this particular argument.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 01:55 PM
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19. Nice transatlantic catapulting. (n/t)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:09 PM
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20. Here's a link to the oral histories of the rescue people
who were at the WTC on 9-11.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

You might want to read a few of these before you start putting down people who dare to question 9-11. A little education never hurt anybody.


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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:34 PM
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24. You misunderstood.
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 04:55 PM by simonm
no sense of shame or respect for human life to abuse the last words of thousands of dying people for their own twisted purposes.


Bullshit. When the facts and scientific evidence dispute "official" government reports, it is our responsibility to question everything.

And your suggestion that they sued for the tapes of the firefighters talking about the explosions is patent bullshit.


I never claimed that. They = Feds wanted to keep the tapes unavailable to the public. There was no suggestion made towards the motives of NYT.

Edit: This is my response to a strawman argument. Fact remains; multiple explosions were described in the tapes.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:50 AM
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:11 PM
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21. 34 years old this is just the beginning of the saddest moment in
history and Bush and Giuliani are responsible.......

When people tell me that First responders must respond and see a 34 year old man die from incompetence it gives me a huge wake up call!!!
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:18 PM
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22. Posted a link to BBC article on this general topic (LINK)
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:13 PM
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23. Christie Todd Whitman must be sweating bullets. She's going
to get the pants sued off of her for declaring the air was safe to breathe. That's why she retired!
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