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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:50 AM
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Children get taste of their parents' military life (Before big deployment)
April 12, 2006

MacDILL - They were 125 strong, marching four abreast at MacDill Air Force Base on Tuesday, chanting "We are the Air Force, mighty, mighty Air Force."

Small, they were, for recruits, just 9 and 10 years old, invited to a mock deployment so they could get a taste of the military life their parents know. They ate Meals Ready to Eat and actually liked them. They tried on gas masks, rode real stretchers and checked out weapons.

"My mama wouldn't like this," said one boy, before he picked up a grenade launcher. Another kid said his mom was a spy. A third said he didn't have a mom.

The staged event Tuesday morning was the second such outing for the 6th Air Mobility Wing Family Support Center.

"We're coming up on a pretty big deployment," said Master Sgt. John Close, who oversees the program. "A lot of their parents are going to be gone."

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/12/Tampabay/Children_get_taste_of.shtml


A big deployment? A lot of parents will be gone?



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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:56 AM
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1. Air Force deployment?
:(
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:33 AM
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9. You're right--a big air force deployment
suggests that attacing Iran is a done deal.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:56 AM
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2. I can't decide what is more terrifying:
1. The "big deployment"

2. Making kids march around chanting military slogans

3. Putting kids on stretchers ("your daddy will be riding one of these soon!")

4. Letting small children handle weapons.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:00 AM
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4. The whole thing sounds a bit bizarre?
One kid picking up a grenade launcher? Oh good. Okay Johnny, put down the grenade launcher. No Johnny, don't pull the trigger! Johnny, I told you it wasn't a toy...



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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 12:58 PM
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12. the whole this is horrifying
it sounds like soemthing Kim Jong Ill would think up.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:02 AM
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5. I pick 1
Look at it this way

Big Deployment

Big shit need big deployment

Shit solve means
All can come home

Whee big shit WINS
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:57 AM
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3. its the kind of military we have now-fathers and mothers off to war-real
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 05:57 AM by rodeodance
war-where they could get blown up-or snippered at.

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Crayson Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:31 AM
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6. Reminds me of Hitlers Youth

In the last battles of Berlin those Youth were absolutely dedicated and fierce fighters.
Most of them were killed of course.
They wre programmed like this for years.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:38 AM
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7. Wow, just wow. n/t
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:57 AM
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8. This quote scares me...
This is what one of the youngsters, Jacob said...

"I have a brave spirit," he said. He says he's not afraid of war. "I want to help the country. God will like it, and I'll go to heaven."

Sounds like children on both sides are being taught that fighting is a holy rite, and a ticket to heaven.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:41 AM
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10. WILL THEY HAVE TO GROW UP TO GET 70 virgins?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:59 AM
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11. we will train our blue eyed men to be young believers
-the clampdown, the clash

our militarism is EXACTLY THE SAME as any other empire's throughout history. God is on our side, their God is on their side.

its no different than fucking neandertals.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 02:42 PM
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13. I'm really conflicted...
this helps the kids understand what their parents do, and that is good and reassuring to kids. I was a military brat (USAF) and my Dad would take me out on quiet mornings and I got to 'help' him. Actually because I was so small, one time I retrieve a tool that had fall-saving them from taking the engine apart. That was the good old days for sure.

I am upset because the AF is being used for other than what their duty is...foot soldiers instead of AF. I have noticed they have sailors doing foot soldier duty. The Army and USAR and NG) can't recruit as many so they treat the soldiers like interchangeable cogs. Rummsfeld should be taken out back and shot for that. He had greatly harmed our military with his 'on the cheap' planning.

The fact that there is a 'big deployment' make me wonder about all that extra equipment we were talking about on another thread some time back?????
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:42 AM
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14. well, sure, but aren't there other things
they could do that wasn't so morbid? you'd think they could come up with something.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 08:36 AM
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15. As morbid as it sounds...
it helps for kids to know what some of these things are like. If their parent is injured, they will have an idea of what happens (the stretcher) or what they do on their job and how important their job is. In all of my dealings with kids, I am very honest. For example, if they break a bone at school, I tell them everything that might happen in as much detail as I can-even the shots, stitches, and level of pain they might experience. I talk to them calmly and explain the importance of facing the situation in a calm manner (and give them so tips and techniques). I have had feedback on this from parents and kids and it has been all positive.

What is frightening to kids is the unknown. By letting the kids experience some of this, it takes away some of their fears, or at least puts them in perspective. Many of their parents will return safely (the majority infact). And for those few that don't (God bless them), the children will have at least some idea of what their parent did. It won't change the situation but it will help them come to terms with the death-and that makes this an important learning situation for the kids.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:30 PM
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16. Did anyone tell the kiddies (or their mommies and daddies)
that even gas masks don't do shit to protect against depleted uranium oxide dust from expended munitions? I'll bet not.
Depleted uranium is nasty stuff. Think about this as you read news reports of the current massive aerial bombing campaign the U.S. is waging around Samarra, north of Baghdad. You might have thought "insurgents" would be the only casualties before you read "Depleted Uranium For Dummies." But you're not a "dummie" anymore.

Our men and women of the New York State National Guard have just spent six months taking radioactive showers and washing small open wounds in a depleted uranium broth. They've eaten over 500 meals with food, plates and silverware washed with hot water, in two senses of the word. Thanks to George Bush Sr. and Dick Cheney's decision to use depleted uranium munitions in 1991, the Tigris river, the Bible's Edenic river of life, has become a modern river of death. And our brothers and sisters are drinking the forbidden water, with knowing it—despite informational videotapes produced for them by Major Doug Rokke and his team. The tapes, pamphlets, and bulletin board posters are mandatory, but how many of our men and woman serving in radioactive areas have seen them?

Our troops inhale depleted uranium with every single breath. Radioactive particles the size of a virus cannot be filtered outside a laboratory. Even the 800,000 gas masks provided Gulf War troops were useless because the charcoal filters became inert within days. The only protection is airtight MOPP suits connected to oxygen tanks.

No place in Iraq is free from radioactive contamination, including today's supposedly "safe" Green Zone in Baghdad where top military officers, civilian occupation authorities, international journalists, and the Iraqi government leaders live and work.

http://www.countercurrents.org/hall230306.htm



The use of depleted uranium in munitions and weaponry is likely to come under intense scrutiny now that new research that found that uranium can bind to human DNA. The finding will likely have far-reaching implications for returned soldiers, civilians living in what were once war-zones and people who might live near uranium mines or processing facilities.

Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Now however, Northern Arizona University biochemist Diane Stearns has established that when cells are exposed to uranium, the uranium binds to DNA and the cells acquire mutations, triggering a whole slew of protein replication errors, some of which can lead to various cancers. Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for some time - that uranium can damage DNA as a heavy metal, independently of its radioactive properties. "Essentially, if you get a heavy metal stuck on DNA, you can get a mutation," Stearns explained. While other heavy metals are known to bind to DNA, Stearns and her team were the first to identify this characteristic with uranium.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060307010324data_trunc_sys.shtml


The Health Effects of DU Weapons in Iraq, a presentation by Thomas Fasy MD PhD, Mt. Sinai School of Medicine, New York
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