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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:39 PM
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Paleontologists Find Species With Links to 'Lucy Skeleton'* evolution
By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: April 12, 2006

In following the fossil tracks of human evolution, scientists have for years searched for links between Australopithecus, the kin of the famous "Lucy" skeleton, and even earlier possible ancestors. Now, they think they have found some connections in Ethiopia.

An international team of paleontologists is reporting the discovery of transitional species superimposed in sediments in the neighborhood of a single site. The findings are to appear Thursday in the journal Nature.

Tim D. White, a paleontologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was a leader of the team, and his colleagues said the 4.1-million-year-old fossils were anatomically intermediate between the earlier species Ardipithecus ramidus and the later species Australopithecus afarensis, the Lucy family. The newfound bones and teeth are the earliest remains of the most primitive Australopithecus, known as anamensis.

"This new discovery closes the gap between the fully blown australopithecines and earlier forms we call Ardipithecus," Dr. White said in a statement. "We now know where Australopithecus came from before four million years ago.">>>>>snip

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/12/science/12cnd-fossil.html?ex=1302494400&en=207f54d067cf2ace&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


Damn Science now what am I gonna do with my creationism science class.
I guess I will have to call the Kansas school board for further directions
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:40 PM
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1. This is so cool!
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:43 PM
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2. Oh, Lowered! This is SERIES!!111!
The scientifics are blaspheming, my God!1 Send down your rightious rath and smote -- smite -- kill them all!!

:rofl:

Cool beans.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:43 PM
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3. Exactly!
HeeHee. I get a kick out of watching the 'Creation Science' program on the AngelOne channel (or whatever) as I'm putting my kid to sleep. She likes me to sit beside the bed sometimes as she goes to sleep, and believe me, this puts her to sleep. I like to take down the 'arguments,' and then go to my engineer hubby (also has a law degree), and see what he says. He just laughs.

Where you are making your mistake: our Creation Science friends have said that whole Carbon-14 test is just bunk. They never quite mention why it is bunk.
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jrw14125 Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:51 PM
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4. and a catfish that beathes air and hunts on land...
bad 2 weeks for the fundies. this iof course just means more gay-bashing, and email campaigns about the secular leftie agenda...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:12 PM
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5. how exciting.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 05:17 PM
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6. there will be nightmares in jesusland tonight!
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:02 PM
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7. Isn't it Amazing the Tricks on Scientists God can play...
of making evolution seem so plausible when we all know this all occurred in the last 5000 years. At least all right thinking people.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:10 PM
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8. So... God's a liar? n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:27 PM
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10. 5000 YEARS, Please, everyone know the Earth is 6000 years old!
Or so I'm told, actual knowledge is Sinful (tricks of the Devil). :sarcasm: :evilgrin:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:36 PM
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11. What's More Amazing is How Wrong the Arrogant Self-Proclaimed...
"right" thinking people are. But then again, it should come at no surprise, for look at the backward greedy fascist they elected. Maybe they need fairytales to fill that space in their empty heads or just do not have the capacity to conceptualize something such as evolution. Kinda makes me think, these self-proclaimed "reicht-thinking" people just haven't evolved and are too scared to change their medieval-myopic-egocentric way of living or thinking.

Also, anyone needing to refute science to prove their faith have no faith at all.
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Rocket Surgeon Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:22 PM
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9. Someone explain to me why this story is a big deal?
It will not convince anybody of the validity of Evolution. All this find did was split one gap in to two gaps.

The Creationist Bible Beaters will still live in theor haze of a 6,000 year-old Earth.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:37 PM
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12. Maybe Because It's Not for People with NO BRAINS to
think outside the box they live in.
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Rocket Surgeon Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:07 PM
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13. Unfortunately they out breed us.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:45 PM
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14. Breeding Can't Save Dumb People (nt)
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:15 PM
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15. "It will not convince" anybody "of the validity of Evolution"
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 10:36 PM by IChing
So you put the totality of your reality in a finite of an absolute?

It will not convince "anybody"
which means in the english language
that anyone is everyone?"


Never mind "anyone": excluded from that statement that believes otherwise
is not counted in your exclusionary logic.

edited for double quote marks
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M155Y_A1CH Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:01 AM
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17. It's important because
With this news we are welcoming another link to the human chain. The picture of man walking forward first as a Neanderthal then morphing into Erectus needs to be updated.
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Rocket Surgeon Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 02:09 PM
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18. Will a more up to date picture
convince the Evangelicals the validity of the Theory of Evolution?
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:15 PM
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19. The science was not done to convince
fundamentalists. It was done to further knowledge. Brains not open to knowledge will not accept it, of course.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:47 PM
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22. Convincing fundamentalists is not the purpose of science. n/t
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 11:47 PM by janx
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:21 PM
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16. Australopithecines usually found in fundie churches
seems they have difficulty walking upright and even more difficulty speaking in more than grunts. Also check out their sloping foreheads.

:evilgrin:
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:35 PM
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20. How dare you post such anti-PC slurs !!!
I'll have you know that I was an australopithecine in a past life, so I seriesly resemble that remark.

:grr: :spank: :grr:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 11:45 PM
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21. WONDERFUL NEWS!
I cannot get enough of these finds. Lucy was found...in the 1980s, yes?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:12 AM
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23. Dis tain't none of that evil-lution, gods is gone an played tricks on us
to be testin' our faith.

(Just trying to think like one of them makes my head hurt)

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