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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:14 AM
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Plenty of questions from Superferry opponents (Military Operations?)
http://www.haleakalatimes.com/news/story1963.aspx

<edit note: this is a snip from a larger superferry issue. I noted the military uses of the superferry for DU>

“Why are Hawaii taxpayers paying for a military operation?” Parsons asked. “Stryker brigade is supposed to be transported by C130 aircraft.” During public statements after the panel discussion, Maui Tomorrow board member Sean Lester pointed out that Stryker Brigade vehicles use Depleted Uranium (DU) for live-fire maneuvers. Several horrified gasps scattered across the room. Lester, a nuclear engineer and former Navy submariner, questioned the military’s credibility regarding the use of DU by the Striker Brigade once they begin training maneuvers at Pohakuloa on the Big Island.

“These Stryker vehicles have 105mm cannons in which the main armament is Depleted Uranium sub-caliber projectiles,” said Lester during a phone interview. “They say that they would never allow in live-fire exercises, but in a major clean-up O‘ahu, DU rounds were found there (Honolulu Advertiser, Jan. 6, 2006). They’ve been saying all along they’ve never used DU rounds anywhere in Hawai‘i. They’re going over for live-fire training on the Big Island. — this is a long-term military contract.”

“We’ve already been lied to once,” finalized Lester during the public testimony. “We’re being asked to bring the potential of Depleted Uranium live fire to our Islands.”

More information on the military’s use of DU on O‘ahu can be found at www.kahea.org/lcr/.
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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:20 AM
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1. 105mm cannon?
Edited on Thu Apr-13-06 12:25 AM by ChristianLibrul
The Stryker is the Army's slightly bigger LAV (Light Armored Vehicle)--used by the Marines for 20 years. They are both wheeled recon vehicles, not tanks. Armored cars, in older parlance. Does the Stryker mount a 105? Surely he means a 25mm chain gun.

Okay, I looked it up. Yes, one of the two Stryker variants mounts the 105mm formerly used on the first M-1 Abrams tank. (M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams have 120mm main guns). The second Stryker is a troop carrier or ambulance.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 12:39 AM
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2. If it's using depleted uranium ammo it's bad news.


A recent University of Northern Arizona study confirms depleted uranium as a heavy metal binds to DNA and causes genetic damage and mutations independent of its radiological effects.


Uranium - when manifested as a radioactive metal - has profound and debilitating effects on human DNA. These radioactive effects have been well understood for decades, but there has been considerable debate and little agreement concerning the possible health risks associated with low-grade uranium ore (yellowcake) and depleted uranium.

Now however, Northern Arizona University biochemist Diane Stearns has established that when cells are exposed to uranium, the uranium binds to DNA and the cells acquire mutations, triggering a whole slew of protein replication errors, some of which can lead to various cancers. Stearns' research, published in the journals Mutagenesis and Molecular Carcinogenesis, confirms what many have suspected for some time - that uranium can damage DNA as a heavy metal, independently of its radioactive properties. "Essentially, if you get a heavy metal stuck on DNA, you can get a mutation," Stearns explained. While other heavy metals are known to bind to DNA, Stearns and her team were the first to identify this characteristic with uranium.

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20060307010324data_trunc_sys.shtml


The dust from the expended munitions is inhaled into the lungs and remain in the lungs or pass through the lung/blood barrier into the bloodstream.


Much of the ceramic DU aerosol is in respirable sized particles -10 micrometer and less in diameter. It stays in the lungs for upwards of two years. The uranium oxide, which was discussed in the Rand report, had a one-year half-life in lungs. Most natural uranium contamination in the human body comes via food and to a lesser extent from drinking water, not via the lungs. Ingested uranium is excreted in feces, basically never entering into the human blood and lymph system. In contrast, the DU ceramic aerosol released in war entered directly into lymph and blood through the lung-blood barrier and circulated throughout the whole body. All internal contamination is excreted through either sweat or urine.

DU is a very powerful alpha particle emitter, with each particle carrying a force of about 4.2 MeV (million electron volts). It requires only 6 to 10 eV (electron volts) to break the DNA or other large molecules in the body. This long stay of DU from weapons within the body can now be demonstrated through 24-hour urine analysis. The presence of DU eight years after the Gulf War exposure, means that the internal organs: lung, lymph glands, bone marrow, liver, kidney, and immune system have experienced significant localized radiation damage. Testing of urine for both veterans of the Gulf War and citizens of Iraq has confirmed this long-term exposure to DU.

Women (because of their radiation sensitive breast and uterine tissue) and children (because their bones are growing, thus able to pick up more DU than adults, and because they have a long expected life-span in which the cancers with long latency periods can develop) will be most at risk from the delayed DU weapon action.

SNIP

The more general conclusion, namely that the internal DU contamination of veterans, still evident eight years after their exposure in the Gulf War, is quite firm now.

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Two points need to be stressed: veterans and civilians in these wars WERE exposed to DU; and this inhaled DU represents a seriously enhanced risk of damaged immune systems and fatal cancers. This type of radiological and chemical warfare should be banned.


http://www.iicph.org/docs/DU_Human_Rights_Tribunal.htm
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:30 AM
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3. Depleted Uranium = Genocide - DU toxins lasts for millenniums
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Hitler was a humanitarian compared to this BushGang . . .

HItler died, his killing stopped

Bushies will be killing and maiming many centuries after they are dead and buried

Sick fu*kers

Heck of a way to get a place in History

But yeah

GW, Poppa, and Prescott got their place in History

When the counting is done

The Bush family's genocide will far outdo even the most outlandish claims of Hitler's "accomplishments"

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