Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

McCain confirms opposition to federal marriage amendment (uh-oh)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:56 PM
Original message
McCain confirms opposition to federal marriage amendment (uh-oh)
Apparently, each state should decide that gay couples are "different" than straights. I can't wait to see the conservatives explode.

http://www.sovo.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=6223

Sen. John McCain confirmed April 13 he’ll vote against the proposed federal Marriage Protection Amendment, which would constitutionally define marriage as between “a man and a woman.”

McCain made the statement the same day a Washington Blade article questioning his stance was published online. The senator’s office did not respond to the Blade’s repeated attempts for comment before publication.

During an appearance in Iowa, McCain reiterated his opposition to the proposed constitutional amendment, which the Senate is likely to vote on in June.

“I intend to vote against it,” he said. “I believe each state should decide.”
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
1. Senator McCain feeding red meat to the sex bigots.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. Give state's the power to take away constitutional liberties
Yeah mccain, you'll get my support.

PLEASE, WOULD SOMEONE TELL ME WHY THE CONSTITUTION HAS TO BE AMENDED TO KEEP GAYS FROM GETTING MARRIED?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:26 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Actually the states have always had the power to decide who
can marry. A federal amendment would be another attempt by the reich wing to take away the state's rights. The republicans have been working hard at taking away the state's ability to enforce laws concerning pollution, drivers licenses, and healthcare. They want the federal government to be all powerful, and that power to be in the hands of the executive.

the states aren't always right, but as a general rule, the states should have some freedom to make laws in areas not covered by the federal government.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Good points, but I have a question
what happens to the "full faith and credit" if I have that right.
States have different rules re marriage already: age, residency, property division in case of divorce and such.
Mr 'pede and I were married in FL but now live in TX. If we divorced we'd be subject to community property laws in TX, but FL isn't a community property state. If we married at 14 and it was legal in FL but later moved to TX where the minimum age was 18, our marriage would still be recognized.
So, if a same-sex couple marries in (say) MA but moves to (say) NE which doesn't allow same-sex marrige within their borders, what happens?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I think the the states have to recognize the marriage, but
more theocratic states say they don't.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
3. One foot on the dock, the other on the boat, and the boat is leaving the
dock.

You need to make a decision, John. What's it going to be? The end of the dock is getting closer, and you'll be in the water soon if you don't commit to one or the other.

This will not gain him any points with progressives, and the conservatives will go bat shit crazy over this revelation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
4. Wow, McCain just kissed the 08 nomination goodbye with this!
The far right already thinks he's a communist, and this just confirms it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. My thought exactly. All those righty fundy bigots banging their fists
on the dinner table tonight is going to make the same sound McCain will make when he keels over after once again failing to garner his party's nomination.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Not if Bush kicks Cheney to the side and
makes McCain VP.:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #4
12. It's OK - he can act as Bush's sweat sponge on the rubber chicken circuit
After all, he did such a GREAT job on that back in 2004.`
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
9. Might be a sign of less fundie influence. Their radical policies
have significantly weakenend the Repukes. I'm glad he is taking this stand. I worry about this amendment bullshit. It is a step toward Nazism here, I fear. I suspect he'll take various stands that will piss off corporatist, fundies, independants in the next year as he positions himself again as a "maverick" and in the middle.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jack_DeLeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
11. Good choice...
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 09:23 PM by Jack_DeLeon
States rights are a good thing, or perhaps yall that support stronger federal government would prefer the constitutional amendment that would effectively eliminate gay marriage nationwide?

IMO this is the best compromise, diversity is a good thing, and people should have more choices at the state and local level.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 10:51 PM
Response to Original message
13. Good for Mc Cain
I despise the man but applaud his opposition to this amendment.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 09:35 AM
Response to Original message
14. Didn't DOMA already define marriage as between a man and a woman?
The Defense of Marriage Act was signed in 1996. How is this any different?

http://www.domawatch.org/about/federaldoma.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:54 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC