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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:03 PM
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US refuses to discuss Iran's nuclear plans in face-to-face talks on Iraq
Although the US is resisting pressure to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions through direct talks with Tehran, rather than sanctions or military strikes, it still intends to meet senior Iranian officials for discussions on Iraq at which it will demand an end to Iranian meddling, according to Zalmay Khalilzad, the US ambassador in Baghdad.

He is to head the US team at face-to-face talks, which will be the first formal diplomatic meeting between the two countries since the Islamic revolution in 1979 and are expected to open in Baghdad shortly. Leading Republican and Democratic senators have urged the Bush administration to engage Iran in full-scale talks, but in an interview with the Guardian Mr Khalilzad made it clear that the talks would be limited to Iraq. The US wanted Iran to halt aid to Iraq's sectarian militias, and stop smuggling al-Qaida fighters and weapons across the border, he said.

He criticised Iranian "negative propaganda". "The Shias have been the main beneficiaries of this change, yet Iran has been very critical of the liberation and the liberators," he said. "A lot of media in Iran exaggerate the problems here ... They are inciting people against the forces that have come to liberate Iraq."The talks with Iran have the backing of Iraqi leaders, who also insist on their own representation at the table. "We have no objection," Mr Khalilzad told the Guardian. "We're not going to negotiate on behalf of Iraq." The talks were put on hold until Iraq had a new government because "in this part of the world people always think in great conspiracy theories ... We didn't want people here to think that the Iranians and the Americans are together deciding on the Iraqi government."

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At the forthcoming talks, the US envoy will speak to the Iranians in their own language. Mr Khalilzad was born in Afghanistan in 1951 and his mother tongue is Dari, which differs little from Farsi. The third US overlord in Baghdad since the invasion, Mr Khalilzad is considered the most successful. As a Muslim, educated in Beirut, he understands local culture. But in a constant reminder of the risks he runs, he keeps a tailor's dummy draped with his flak jacket and helmet in his office. Mr Khalilzad is a neo-con who felt the US should have toppled Saddam Hussein after expelling him from Kuwait in 1991. His technique for countering the fall in support for the war in US opinion polls is to offer lurid scenarios for what might happen "if we were to leave prematurely before Iraq can stand on its own feet".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1755750,00.html
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:14 PM
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1. So let me guess how this 'dialog' is going to go.
US: we are in a bit of a bind here in Iraq, would you mind helping us out?

THEM: that would be difficult.

What possible incentive do the Iranians have for helping to keep things calm in Iraq? In what universe do our arrogant asshats think that they can threaten a regime with destruction on one hand, and then ask that same regime to aid and abet their own destruction by freeing up our troops in Iraq? How stupid do we think the Iranians are?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:31 PM
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2. The press has short memories. Iran stated they would not talk nukes
but the press now pushes the story as if it was a dictum from the US.

What a load of cow patties.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:32 AM
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3. US refuses to discuss Iran's nuclear plans in face-to-face talks on Iraq
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1755751,00.html

Although the US is resisting pressure to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions through direct talks with Tehran, rather than sanctions or military strikes, it still intends to meet senior Iranian officials for discussions on Iraq at which it will demand an end to Iranian meddling, according to Zalmay Khalilzad, the US ambassador in Baghdad.

He is to head the US team at face-to-face talks, which will be the first formal diplomatic meeting between the two countries since the Islamic revolution in 1979 and are expected to open in Baghdad shortly.

Leading Republican and Democratic senators have urged the Bush administration to engage Iran in full-scale talks, but in an interview with the Guardian Mr Khalilzad made it clear that the talks would be limited to Iraq. The US wanted Iran to halt aid to Iraq's sectarian militias, and stop smuggling al-Qaida fighters and weapons across the border, he said.

He criticised Iranian "negative propaganda". "The Shias have been the main beneficiaries of this change, yet Iran has been very critical of the liberation and the liberators," he said. "A lot of media in Iran exaggerate the problems here ... They are inciting people against the forces that have come to liberate Iraq."

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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 06:48 AM
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4. Why, why, why in God's name will we NOT talk to Iran about anything that
might even possibly avert a war? Can someone some where stop Bush. This is not a political game - this is suicide.

If Bush thinks we nuke Iran and none of the other Islam nations will hit us, he really is delusional. I, for one, do not want to suffer from his idiocy.


I was wondering if Iran would let us send in inspectors (like Iraq did) and be sure they are using their stuff just for making electricity. It never entered my mind that the thing in the WH would not even have diplomatic talks.

I'm the most upset over this of anything I've been lately. I think we are in real danger from this clown.

What are the talk shows saying about this?
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:16 AM
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5. Well, great. That's how we got Iraq and how Israel got to where it is in
the ME. Refusing to talk directly to your enemies is a stupid, dangerous, and even uncivilized way to behave, especially for a super power holding all the weapons of mass destruction. If we are afraid having all the power, what the hell would we be once the weapons and the threat of using them have no power?
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:20 AM
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6. That's because they're gonna nuke Iran and they know no-one wants them to.

They're a bunch of fucking buffoons. They have no credentials, no plan, no strategy, no mandate, no back-up, no fucking clue what they're doing and they're gonna do it anyway, biting the bullet and crying fake crocodile tears all the way, weeping for the poor lost troop lives and posing with cardboard turkeys.

What a bunch of fucking disgusting pieces of crap.

VILE. PESTILENCE. POISONOUS. INESCAPABLY CORRUPT. LIARS.
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 07:25 AM
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7. Plenty of "high level" talks are no doubt going on behind the scenes......
....but even those - if directed by idiot boy and "shoot um up in the face" Cheney won't go anywhere and we will pay for generations to come for this administration's screw ups. I loathe these jerks.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 03:58 PM
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8. meeting face to face with oil rich brutal dictators is another story
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 05:10 PM
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9. nice spin
"an end to Iranian meddling"

as opposed to american overt support of terrorists who target iran, support of 'pro-democracy groups in iran'? THAT sort of 'meddling' ?

also, as other posters note, it wasn't the US that refuses to discuss irans nuclear energy program
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-18-06 05:11 PM
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10. This is some sick and dangerous international diplomacy ... eom
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