FOX Poll: Gloomy Economic Views; Bush Approval at New Low (33% approval)

[sabra]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192468,00.html

04/20/06 FOX Poll: Gloomy Economic Views; Bush Approval at New Low

NEW YORK — More Americans disapprove than approve of how George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Congress are doing their jobs, while a majority approves of Condoleezza Rice. President Bush’s approval hits a record low of 33 percent this week, clearly damaged by sinking support among Republicans.

Opinions are sharply divided on whether Rumsfeld should resign as secretary of defense. In addition, views on the economy are glum; most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better. These are just some of the findings of the latest FOX News national poll.

President Bush’s job approval rating slipped this week and stands at a new low of 33 percent approve, down from 36 percent two weeks ago and 39 percent in mid-March. A year ago this time, 47 percent approved and two years ago 50 percent approved (April 2004).

Approval among Republicans is below 70 percent for the first time of Bush’s presidency. Two-thirds (66 percent) approve of Bush’s job performance today, down almost 20 percentage points from this time last year when 84 percent of Republicans approved. Among Democrats, 11 percent approve today, while 14 percent approved last April.

[Goblinmonger]

1. So what is the formula

again to get the real numbers from the fox poll? I bet others have him under 30%, then.

[VolcanoJen]

2. THIRTY-THREE PERCENT

Holy crap!!! 33% on a Fox News poll!!

Start quackin' and limpin', Mr. Lame Duck.

I'm looking forward to seeing how the media spins this into a "When will Bush rebound" story. :eyes:

THIRTY-THREE PERCENT!! Wow.

[DemoTex]

23. "LAME" indeed. The unpimping of the Presidency.

He is definitely sucking.

[Tight_rope]

71. 33%.?....That means 33% of Americans are still dumbasses!

[calimary]

92. Holy Crap - is it! And stunning to see this from Pox "news" also.

Man, when Pox can't even prop him up anymore, what's the world coming to?

[Atman]

3. YIKES! Shore up the White House floor, the bottom's dropping out!

The November "come from behind amazing upset victory" is getting to be a tougher and tougher job for Karl!

[underpants]

4. Dear 33%

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=197330&mesg_id=197330

Dear 33%

I feel for you. I really do. I feel for anyone suffering from severe mental illness.

Now, now. Don't get testy. I don't mean it as snark. I mean it as fact. You truly are suffering from a mental illness -- post-traumatic stress disorder. Yes, the same disorder our soldiers get in the field. Somehow you got it on 9/11.

I never realized how terrified that day made you, 33%. Yes, it was a horrible, scary day. I remember. But obviously much more frightening for you than for me. It scared you so much, your mind simply gave up rationality. We 67%ers know -- we've listened to you. We've listened to you in one breath say that Saddam was a butcher and that this is a war to save innocent lives, and then just a few seconds later say Islam is inherently violent and all Muslims need to be targeted, surveilled, and destroyed. We've listened with pity as you described in ever more complete detail the architecture of your delusion, the monsters you fear will kill you. You tell us we have to fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here, but then you tell us we must surrender all our rights because we are surrounded by your demons.

These are not the workings of a rational mind. Can you see that?

33%, you are sick. You need help.

You need treatment. A good liberal psychologist could help you work through your PTSD. Failing that, a good liberal friend. If you can't find treatment on your own, let us know. Just ask 3 people for help -- we'll be two of them.

Love and hope for your recovery,
67%

[Kber]

22. In all seriousness, I think 9-11 may have been worse (long term)

for people who were farther away. I'm not talking about those who lost loved ones, but people like me and my husband, who were terrified, but got through it. My husband was in lower NYC on 9-11 and was on the street when the buildings went down. He looked like someone hosed him down and rolled him in white chalk when he finally got home in time for a late dinner. Me - I was in NJ and my major stress was between the second plane hitting (I was a bit slow to realize what was happening) and 11:30 when my husband finally got through to say he was OK. So, while nothing really awful happened to either of us, you might say we have cause to be concerned about possible terror strikes.

But it's when I visit my family "in the heartland" that I see true fear. I think, because we experienced 9-11 up close and personal and we got through it, we can put that day in context. The thing is, all of my friends and family in NJ and NYC feel the same way I do. One of my husband's clients lost her husband on that day, and even she feels the same. It sucked, but it got better. NYC voted around 90% for Kerry, in part because the fear factor just didn't work here.

[underpants]

29. Wow

an up close and personal story of that horrible day.


Yeah it probably is worse. I live in Richmond VA but you do here it from people around here from time to time but not that much anymore. Fear works, we know that.

The point about the voting has been made before but it should be repeated as you did. All the areas that were directly effected on 9-11 voted against Bush. Either they didn't buy it to begin with or it didn't work on them anymore.

[VolcanoJen]

32. I thought it was a real wake-up call to middle America...

... when voters who were directly effected by 9/11 overwhelmingly chose John Kerry over The Decider.

If Kerry was going to get us all killed, then how in hell did Manhattan and DC voters choose him by ridiculously huge margins over the man who presided over that horrible day?

Excellent post, Kber. Thank you for retelling your story. Honestly, the most haunting images of 9/11 to me remain the photographs of the bystanders, with their traumatized eyes, covered in white dust that was reminscent of a nuclear winter.

:hug:

[savemefromdumbya]

60. if you lived in Baghdad you may have felt the same?

The worst bit is those poor innocent people a) in the WTC and b) in Iraq who have needlessly lost their lives for this crackpot dictator's war dreams.

[Kber]

82. I am entirely sure that living in Bagdad is a million times worse

9-11 was basically over in a day. Bagdad must be an ongoing nightmare with no real in sight. It's going to get worse before it gets better too.

[fujiyama]

90. That's an interesting post

and I think you bring an especially good point about viewing it in context.

Another thing is that New Yorkers (and people in NJ as well) are used to seeing brown people all the time. They drive their taxis, own shops, are their doctors, and coworkers in every other respect. They see them. They interact with them.

OTOH, in nowheresville, ID, you have maybe five brown people and the remaining people are pissing in their pants over the distant enemy.

This isn't to say there isn't racism in NY, NJ, and other parts of the NE. There certainly is, but exposure to minorities on a larger scale diminishes fear.

I particularly remember a great article in the NYT after the election and it spoke of how NYers were just stunned by the results. It made them feel somewhat different once again.

Oh well, I never lived in NYC (only visited once), but I love the city.

[adigal]

95. Same thing with me

My husband was a NYC firefighter working that day, and I thought he was dead all day long, until he got in touch with me around 4PM. I have learned that there are things worse than death - like living in a country where you are afraid to use your own name online because the government or right wing wackos might come after you. So fear does not work for us.

But when I hear those C-Span callers from places like the Dakotas, and they are practically hyperventilating over the threat Iraq posed, and the threat Iran poses, I just don't get it. Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

[rasputin1952]

50. LOL...I love the signature: "67%"

I do not find it incredible that bush is down to 33%, to be honest, I think 33 is a bit high, and am willing to go w/the Margin of Error and drop him to 30%. Out of a nation of 365 million +, it is astounding that there are some 36 million that possibly think bush is doing a "good job".

AMazing ANYONE can think bush is doing a "good job", the whole administration is train wreck

[glitch]

52. This deserves it's own thread. nt

[hadrons]

56. loved that Dear 33%

[SlavesandBulldozers]

72. "never offer sympathy to the mentally ill

tell them firmly, you are a terminal fool. I'm not paid to listen to this drivel." - William S. Burroughs

[Lorien]

74. Back in WWII Londoners went through DAILY bombings

I have a good friend who survived the blitz and who was baffled at how Americans allowed a few men with boxcutters to turn the Nation into a country of bed wetting thumb suckers. Where to that "home of the brave" mindset go? I remember trying to get on a plane to Norway that day. When it was obvious that I wasn't going anywhere I decided to go to the bank and sign some loan papers. When I got there the bank was empty of customers, and all the employees were gathered around the TV. One came over and asked "Don't you know what's going on? America is under attack"!! I said "The WTC collapsed, a plane went down in Pennsylvania, and another hit the Pentagon. Are we being "attacked" here in Florida"? He shook his head, so I said "Then why the hell are you doing EXACTLY what those terrorist thugs WANT you to do?? Go about your day-don't let them stop you from doing a damn thing! If you do, they WIN!!" He frowned but lead me to a desk and took care of my paperwork. Those whimpering, terrified reactions from people who were NOWHERE NEAR the areas that were hit really, really pissed me off. That isn't the way Americans are supposed to react to adversity!

[calimary]

93. This is one humdinger of an excellent post!

It is SO important to remind people of that. ESPECIALLY those who knee-jerkedly screech "but 9/11 changed EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!" The response to that? "Well, then, that means the terrorists WON, doesn't it?"

FUCK NO they didn't win!!! At least to ME!

They're not gonna scare me and make me change everything about my life and cower behind plastic sheeting and duct tape. That's what they WANT. That's what bush wants, too, the better to control the population, my dear.

Well, FUCK THAT SHIT. I'm NOT gonna play!

[underpants]

96. Yes it is

I had a talk that other day with an old friend and we finally got around to talking about fear. He said that he just didn't understand how people like in fear like they do. Mind you we both have the normal american existence straight out of the book so we are supposed to be scared for ourselves our families and of losing everything (typical white dread type stuff) but somehow we don't. It is amazing when I am talking to someone and I realize that all of their concerns are the result of nothing but fear.

[Chimichurri]

5. 33%!!!! and reported by Faux News no less. It could actually be

around 25%.

[Ignacio Upton]

6. Stay out of major cities and tourist attractions

It looks like Bush...er Osama, will strike again...at least if you believe in MIHOP. Me, I say expect another round of terror warnings to scare the crap out of the public.

[Supersedeas]

51. time to open the video vault to stimulate a TERRA alert

[Renew Deal]

7. Just wait until a gallon of gas is as high as his approval rating.

:nuke:

[bluestateguy]

8. BOO YAH! And a Fox poll too!!!

Oh this is going to be good, watching the Freepers make excuses for this one.

[rodeodance]

9. why the pass on Condi?

while a majority approves of Condoleezza Rice.

[Nostradammit]

16. Because they think she'll be a darling by '08

The PTB are going to try to give us Hillary or Condi in '08, I suspect.

They win either way. Barring some unforeseen events.

[eppur_se_muova]

67. It's the bitchin' shoes. nt

[tanyev]

10. Wasn't the latest Republican spin that the low poll numbers

were good, because he'd bottomed out and there was nowhere to go but up?


Guess again.
:rofl:

[VolcanoJen]

11. What's really shocking is that Rumsfeld has higher approval numbers...

... in this poll than the President. Rummy's at 35%; Chimpy's at 33%.

Yet, most of those who disapprove of the President say they do so because of Iraq... weird that the Secretary of Defense still scores higher when you take that into consideration.

People just don't like Bush. It's clear as day.

Watch the media spin this one...

[Vidar]

41. Why not? They share blame for foreign messes, but domestic

disasters are shrub's alone. Additionally, Rumsfeld actually speaks English.

[geebensis]

12. Fox?

Holy moly.

My prediction: By mid-summer every republican politician involved in a campaign will not just try to get some distance from Bush, they'll begin to publicly disparage him. Bush is going to be fresh out of friends.

Rove is going to have to do some fancy tap dancing to get republicans elected.

On the plus side, Bush is going to take some R's down with him.

On the minus side, the republicans are doing it to themselves. I'd rather see them tank because of something we're doing.

[Piscis Austrinus]

77. Not so sure about that

Better to let the whole nation watch them fracture, split, fragment, implode, and combust. The damage the GOP can do to itself - after years of arm-twisting, cover-ups, sweetheart deals, lies, electioneering, profiteering, corruption, influence-peddling, warmongering, pandering to special interests, malfeasance, slander of political foes, and on and on, promise a true Amerigeddon of recriminations in the Party of the Intestinal Dumplings.

I would pay hard-earned money to watch that.

Peace
PsA

[walkon]

13. I thought 33%

would be the absolute bottom. The point where only the most blind loyalists would approve of Bush. Could it be that he will sink below 33%- losing at least some of those loyalists? Has any President of the United States had lower approval ratings?

O.K. A quick search shows that Nixon hit the 24-25 % level. Bush will continue to drop but this time they may classify the pollsters findings.

[VolcanoJen]

15. Hurricane season's comin'.

It can go lower.

[Pirate Smile]

19. Oh, yes it really can. When the gas prices go over $3 throughout

the Country.

Yoowwzzzaaa!

That is supposed to happen without even taking hurricane season into account.



The guy in the green skirt will symbolize Bush's poll numbers.:)

[VolcanoJen]

24. Gas is already at $2.89/$2.99 here in the midwest

It's not even summer, and essentially, prices are already at $3.00.

Didn't oil hit $74/barrel today?

America wants to blame somebody, and I think the gas prices are hitting The Decider harder than the media will admit.

That Exxon fucker isn't doing The Decider any favors, either.

We're engaged in the bloodiest month of the year in Iraq, Iran is rattling its sabers, gas will be well over $3.00/gallon before summer even comes, and The Decider just can't fire anybody... I think by mid-summer, McClellan and The Decider will look back at 33% as "The Good Old Days."

[Pirate Smile]

33. I know. $2.75 where I'm at but it is nowhere near where it is headed

for the summer.

It is certainly pissing people off RIGHT NOW but there is a psychological quirk that kicks in when it goes over certain #'s.

$3.00 will certainly be a big point as will $4.00 which we may hit as well.

I know it was already over $4 in NYC but if it gets that high in the areas where everyone has to drive to get anywhere, people are just going to freak.

[DS1]

Paid 3.19 today

Premium, and ONLY because I was running really low and didn't want to risk going a few miles more to the next place. But wow, everyone pulled up, and had a moment of pause while still in their cars today. It was interesting to see. People really are - and all types too - thinking to themselves about how high these prices are

[VolcanoJen]

38. I paid $2.99 for 89 yesterday... mid-premium...

... I hit the gas station at about 5:30 pm and the place was pretty busy.

Everyone just shaking their heads and staring at the pump readout.

It cost me $33 to fill up my little, fuel-efficient Acura Integra.

People aren't buying the "it costs what it costs" shit anymore.

[Pirate Smile]

42. Plus the usually politically clueless notice when the gas prices go up

and they're pissed. Maybe, we can get them to vote.

I can visualize some damning political commercials against Republicans in general - gas prices, Spector refuses to force the CEO's to be under oath, all the tax give aways to the Oil Companies, the Repub's repeated refusals to do investigations of price gouging and other things the Dems promote, show Cheney's quote saying "Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States" http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/4/6/12187/55330, etc.

Didn't Randi say her first Prez vote was for Reagan just because she was pissed about gas prices? She wasn't politically aware yet.

[Zynx]

58. Carter got lower and did Bush's father briefly.

I think Johnson got about as low and Truman got a little lower after firing MacArthur.

[AndyTiedye]

76. One Of the Things That Brought Carters ##'s Down was HIGH GAS PRICES

[Piscis Austrinus]

78. Correct! dingdingding - we have a winner

If I remember right, gas prices in the Carter years were higher than today, in today's dollars.

When we get somewhere around the tipping point - I expect it will be somewhere around $3.75 - the floor will cave in.

I drive over 100 miles daily round-trip on my work commute, and because of where I live, mass-transit is about a wash as an option, costwise at $2.95/gal. At $3.50/gal., by taking mass transit I could save a thousand bucks a year. That's like geting an extra yearly raise.

And I'm neither worst nor best case. Some folks already have transit as a far better option, while some will never have it. However, I live in an area as red as Rumsfeld's liver, and when these folks realize they're losing a couple grand a year per capita just getting to work, it's going to get ugly. It'll get REAL ugly, actually, since a lot of people around here work for either (a) a major airline experiencing severe economic strain, or (b) a major automaker whose plant is going to shut down in the next two years.

All I can say is - too bad. Most of those folks voted against their own best interests, and vilified, cursed, threatened and persecuted me when I tried to warn them.

Peace
PsA

on edit - clarification

[Arugula Latte]

14. Duck and cover! They're gonna bomb something!

:nuke:

[twaddler01]

17. That is utterly hopelessly pathetically historically horrible

:rofl:

[WhiteTara]

18. OMG that's a 2% drop in ONE DAY

:bounce:

[Zynx]

59. I don't follow...

There hasn't been a fox poll for at least a few weeks and thus it is impossible that he dropped 2% in a day in this poll. If you are refering to the Pew poll that had him at 35%, then I can at least see where you are coming from, but it is nonetheless incorrect analysis.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

20. So, he's really somewhere around 13%. n/t

[davepc]

21. gas prices and immigration

eating away at his base.

[smoogatz]

31. It's more than that.

Even the NASCAR crowd understands that we're essentially powerless to change things in Iraq, that Bush lied to get us there (or was too stupid to check his own facts before going in) and that the military is badly bent, if not broken. Even staunch Bush loyalists could see plainly that the federal response to Katrina was late, chaotic and grossly insufficient. And the working class is starting to figure out that their hundreds of dollars in Bush tax cuts are an insulting sop compared to the 1.2 million or so Dick Cheney got back this year alone. I also think it's starting to get personal--Bush hides behind his handlers, and on the rare occasions that he does actually venture out in public he seems either bored, petulant or confused. Nobody wants to have a beer with THAT guy.

[Piscis Austrinus]

79. Rank incompetence, greed and evil

eating away at our kids' futures.

Peace
PsA

[smoogatz]

25. Safe bet that Faux jiggered their actual results in Bush's favor--

the real number's probably more like 29-31%. Which is positively (or negatively) Nixonian. I think this is as clear an indication as we're going to get that:

a. the American people are fed up with Bushco's lying, looting and incompetence, and
b. a big majority now actively dislike him.

Once you've turned that corner in American politics, there's really nothing you can do to un-turn it. Stick a fork in him, folks--he's done.

[VolcanoJen]

26. We hated Bush before hatin' Bush was cool

I'm telling ya, there's a pop culture factor in all of this.

I don't have a problem with it, either. }(

[0rganism]

35. We used to be iconoclasts, now we're "opinion leaders"

I was a 10%-er back in the day...

I remember right after 9-11 when damn near everyone was bending over backwards to kiss bush's ass from below, I was saying, Dang, people, he's the idiot who made that disaster possible, and you want to hand him your firstborn?

What a bunch of hogwash that was.

[osaMABUSh]

87. The truth is not evenly distributed in time

Yes, we were way ahead of the curve on Bush. I remember, clearly, arguing with my repuke that Bush Is the Worst President Ever... back in Feb 2002

[durtee librul]

64. I live in a Repub neighborhood

and all they say now is that Bush is 'such a disappointment' OR they say they would spit on him if he came to the door. These are seniors (70 plus) and they can't stand Bush, Cheney or any of the bunch.

TSK TSK TSK.....thanks a lot MF'ers.....you voted for him. Now the rest of us have to impeach him.

[Piscis Austrinus]

80. Stick a pitchfork in him

or a forklift.

Either way, he's forked.

Peace
PsA

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. The funny thing is that their internals must be even lower

Hence the Card and McClellan departure, and the shuttling about of Mr. Rove.

Every time Bush goes on one of his speaking tour, his approval plummets further. The bloom is most definitely off the rose.

[Piscis Austrinus]

81. Rove was sent to try to work his mudgic on the '06 campaign

I'll bet that was his idea, out of sheer self-preservation. He knows full well that if the Democrats gain even one house of Congress, the jig will be up, and the subpoenas will be flying. When the White House tries to stonewall - and we all know they will - and fire up the shredders, everyone will see at last that Bushco has no respect for the Constitution and laws they swore to uphold.

Rove will go down with all of them. He knows this. He'll be lucky if he's not indicted before the summer because of the Plame investigation. He's positioning himself to get away from the White House before the marshals pound on the door. More interestingly, if it becomes obvious the Bushco ship's going to sink, he might well try to cut a deal for his testimony just to keep his own soft butt out of the hard-core slammer. Rove strikes me as someone whose loyalty can be trumped by self-interest - the most likely candidate of all the people in this damnable administration.

Peace
PsA

on edit - corrected fat-fingered typos

[Seen the light]

28. Dear 11% of Democrats

:puke:

[0rganism]

30. (cue steel drum music) Leeem-bo! How looow can you gooooo?

:bounce: Do I hear 30%? 25%? maybe even 20%? :bounce:

[Marie26]

34. Wow - and from a Fox poll yet. nt

[alarcojon]

36. Some strong-ass spin right in the first line

Yeah, more Americans disapprove than approve of Bush. First of all, it's 57% disapprove to 33% approve. I mean, Yao Ming is taller than me (I'm 5'10", he's 7'5"), but I wouldn't generally say he's taller than me - I'd comment on the fact that he's WAY taller than me.

Secondly, more people have disapproved than approved of Bush for some time now. His approvals have been in the 30's/low 40's for some time now, his disapproval in the 50's.

33% is such a nice number - only 1/3 of the country likes this guy.

[Mountainman]

37. My favorite freep responce, Dems are out of power but it is all our falt!

To: Grendel9

Bush said he would sign the bill for the fence, reid won't let it come to a vote.

Republicans that are buying into the media spin about bush deserve pelosi and hillary rodham.

East Coast liberal elite media are going to turn this country's politics into venezuela.


Just what we need for san francisco to go nationwide with pelosi.


Canada is now more conservative than America.


I hate this country's politics. The dems get rewarded for their race baiting, obstruction, diebold conspiracies.

I am sick of the politics in this country. Republicans either need to take over media companies and newspapers or get out of politics.


America is going to get what they deserve with their marxists like rangel, conyers, pelosi.

53 posted on 04/20/2006 11:28:17 AM PDT by santorumlite
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[VolcanoJen]

40. Awwww!!!! Baby need a hug??

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[geebensis]

44. I have it on pretty good authority...

...that there are trolls working that thread.

[Mountainman]

45. I would guess there will be more and more trolls in freeperville as things

get worse for them and better for us. It is a lot of fun to help them freepers get their panties in a bunch.

[Piscis Austrinus]

84. Trolling?

Nah. It's enough to sit safely on shore and watch them drown on their own (industrially polluted) lake. I don't need to go out there and torch the boat. None of these guys can swim worth a darn anyway.

Peace
PsA

Sorry, I'm not normally this callous; I'm in a mood. A $2.95/gallon mood, to be succinct.

[spinbaby]

54. I've been saving a Freeper account...

...for a good trolling moment.

[Az_lefty]

61. me too...I go over there and kick sand in their face once in a while

[DBoon]

65. "...turn this country's politics into venezuela"

you promise? please?

[Piscis Austrinus]

83. After putting up with vocally-empowered sphincter muscles

like this for 5+ years, you bet we deserve them. And more. Like a Bush/Cheney perp-walk.

Taking over the media companies? They can't win on their superior ideals and moral compass? They should instead resort to totalitarian measures?

Uh-huh. Right. And they wonder why America is turning against them?????

Two words: Cognitive Dissonance!!! (Wait, that's impossible: this guy is brainless.)

Peace
PsA

[tabasco]

100. Mouthing Limbaugh.

"East coast liberal elite media" - LMAO!!

"Republicans ... need to take over media companies ..."

Who does this asshole think owns the media corporations?

Big liberal media corporations like GE?? LMAO.

You can tell these people don't even think. They just repeat talking points that are so tired and lame.

They will not be happy until they install a fuhrer for life and do away with democracy.

Even then, in their world of shit, they will blame their problems on somebody else.

[Vidar]

39. 33% on Fox! Wow! He may lap Cheney.

[VolcanoJen]

43. Now on CNN: Gas prices forcing some to go to pawn shops

The segment is entitled "Running on Empty." I'm blown away that CNN is actually airing this.

If Repubs want to know why nobody likes their hero anymore, they need look no further than this report.

[leesa]

46. So Condi lies under oath and it's A-OK with the American

public. She's our gal! WHY do Americans refuse to connect dots???

[July]

47. Lots of information there.

It's been TWO YEARS since Bush was at 50%? And the media is just starting to notice the Chimp is NOT popular?

Condi's approval worries me. If she's one of the only cronies with positive approval, won't they be thinking of wheeling her out for elective office soon?

[Piscis Austrinus]

85. Please do trot Condi out there!

I would love to watch her get her ass handed back to her in pieces in a presidential debate. She's not just chained to this administration; she's got calluses on her hands from all the water buckets she's been carrying. She's got more unwanted baggage than an airline lost-luggage auction. All she needs is "SHILL" tattooed on her upper lip.

And I'm sure the NASCAR dads will just go out and vote for her in droves. Surrrre they will.

Peace
PsA

[TomClash]

48. Too high

It should be zero.

[TomClash]

49. 1/3 MORANS

eom

[newspeak]

53. had a woman at the store complain about the increase in food prices

told her when oil goes up, everything goes up--food, gas, utilities. Sent my mom a check last month for her utility bill since she is on a fixed income and couldn't afford it. Good jobs with benefits are going bye-bye and people are forced to accept lower wages or part-time work for survival. Hey, but don't worry freeps, those CEOs deserve every penny they take, I mean earn. Yep, they deserve it cause it's hard work, really hard work--not like those lazy laborers who actually create the product or provide the service.:sarcasm:

[Pirate Smile]

62. But the rich are becoming super rich. Bush sure came through for his base

[osaMABUSh]

88. The Haves and the Haves Mores

[Piscis Austrinus]

86. It's also those lazy laborers

who put up with the daily dump-truck load of loathing that customers heap on them - loathing directly traceable to the policies pursued by those same CEOs.

This is one reason why wages are kept low: imagine if Walmart employees all got together and bought WalMart stock until they held 50.01% collectively. Think things would change at WalMart then? Sure they would. And in smaller companies with savvier employees (who can command more than $8.50/hr), this would actually be feasible.

Peace
PsA

[catmandu57]

55. Another good thing about this

those 33%ers love their faux news, and they're incredibly herd oriented, when the herd starts turning the rest of them are going to go just because that's what herds do. I look for a sharp drop especially when gas really starts rising.

[BootinUp]

57. Watch that last step, its a lulu!

*whistling sound of falling bomb getting louder*

[jsamuel]

63. April 18 and April 19 - first poll since the generals and rummy

the others have all been 8-10th and before

I think it is funny that Fox interprets the fall as Republicans being scared of Bush's low poll numbers getting lower, not that they actually disapprove, but that they approve, but say they don't because they are scared that he will hurt Republicans in November... :crazy:

[Rose Siding]

66. I saw them report this poll and were they ever desperate

They suggested that the lowered 10 year outlook numbers were a result of people worried about the solvency of social security. :eyes:

[Khaotic]

68. Damaged Goods

It's quickly becoming appearant that Shrub is damaged goods.

It may very well be that the GOPrs are seperating from him. They have waaaaay too much to lose. I don't think they want to give up the kind of traction they gave up under daddy Shrub.

Coming out of '92 they were disorganized and febble, although they got it together on a local level and took back the House for the first time in 60 years or something like that. Then they took the Senate back.

If Shrub is damaged goods then we might see a rift in the party, as the true neocons fight with the Eisenhower conservatives, and the Reagan Republicans throw fists at the Religious Right.

The party could very well splinter into a dozen pieces. They always have their hate for liberals to try to keep them together but that won't getter done this time.

They better scuff up those knees w/ Diebold to have any hope, which I'm sure they are.

[Raine]

69. Chimp has lost the 'filthy fourty' percent

and seems likely he will lose the 'dirty thirty' that repukes have always managed to hang onto. :rofl:

[lovuian]

70. Faux news finally admitting Bush is majorly sucking

and when your cheerleaders start letting ya know its pretty freakin bad!!!

[Barrett808]

73. Here's the latest Pollkatz graph:

http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com

[Orsino]

75. Since when does FAUX admit to nubers that dismal?

Is this Murdoch's signal to Republicans everywhere to distance themselves?

[LynnTheDem]

89. Bahhh! Just another one o' them librul unscientific polls!

Heh.

:D

[fujiyama]

91. This is the lowest

of any poll I've ever seen him...and that it's a Fox News poll that too, makes it even better. Even they can't deny it.

I want to see him fall into the twenties...or better yet the teens (but I think there are far too many kool aid chuggers out there).

[truthisfreedom]

94. he's getting close to nixon levels, true, but with each percentage point

i fear a "terrattack" courtesy bushco MIHOP.

[Radio_Guy]

97. Is there any doubt that we will win in 2006?

Bush's numbers are so low there is no way the repugs can climb back out before November. Taking back the House and Senate will be like taking candy from a GOP baby.

[RedSpartan]

98. Awesome.

I always use the Fox poll's numbers when giving the Chimp's approval rating to any Right Winger. Shuts em up.

[Paula Sims]

99. According to Tom Hartman. . .

low 30's is the "magic number" when mammals abandon their "leader" and start looking for another, stronger leader. OK, so people are pissed, but it's a long way to November and the average "I don't have time to read and I'm too afraid to think for myself" person has the attention span of a fly. We need to keep this up and strong. The other issue is to make sure Diebold and other's don't take over the situation.


Paula