Bush: Massive Deportation Not Realistic

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060424/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_immigration

IRVINE, Calif. - President Bush, rebutting lawmakers advocating a law-and-order approach to immigration, said Monday that those who are calling for massive deportation of the estimated 11 million foreigners living illegally in the United States are not being realistic.

"Massive deportation of the people here is not going to work," Bush said as a Congress divided over immigration returned from a two-week recess. "It's just not going to work."

In addition to speaking here, Bush was meeting Tuesday with a bipartisan group of senators at the White House to press his case.

Bush spoke in support of a stalled Senate bill that includes provisions that would allow for eventual citizenship to some of the illegal immigrants already here. Some conservatives say that would amount to amnesty.

[Hobarticus]

1. Well, that makes one thing he's said this year that I agree with....

Pretty easy for people to screech about deportation. We can't manage an occupation of Iraq, a country twice the size of Idaho....how could we possibly deport 11 million people, nationwide?

[Mythsaje]

2. It's actually painful to admit...

but he's right about that. Just not feasible.

[bluestateguy]

3. Democrats should sit this issue out

Because Republicans are tearing themselves apart over it. Bush is in league with all of the corporate conservatives who like the cheap labor (many of them probably have an undocumented maid or nanny working in their own home). On the other hand, the redneck wing of the party, which tends to be more working class, wants all them "ferners" rounded up and deported.

Advice to Democrats, just stay out of it and let the GOP cannibalize itself on the issue.

[VegasWolf]

4. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. nt

[onehandle]

5. Ya think?

[FVZA_Colonel]

14. I remember a comment Jon Stewart made about that (the picture reminded me)

It went something along the lines of "Ah, of course it'll be easy! Just think about how simple it was to get Elian Gonzalez out of the country, and times that by eleven million."

[onehandle]

26. Yep. I saw that too. nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Of course not. They'd just come back across the border and

we'd have to do it all over again.

But, on the other hand, if we were to put them all in one place, like in camps where we could keep an eye on them while we figure out which ones would make good Republicans, we could let a few out at a time to pick their lettuce and strawberries, and maybe put some to work on building The Wall, so as they can earn their keep. Our friends at Halliburton say we can have the camps up and running in 9 months or so...

[superconnected]

7. Once in a great while he says something I agree with.

I can't think of the last time, I think it was around '02 on smth small... This I agree with though.

Bet his base is fuming :)

[fshrink]

8. Some say a massive deportation is realistic.

[tridim]

9. "besides ya see.. My rich friends need their gardens tended to

and their children nannied. Jobs no American would do for the wages we pay."

[Mandate My Ass]

10. It's also not in repukes' best interests

as long as wages stagnate they can keep their base angry at illegals instead of at the corporate-whore republicans who are more responsible for driving down wages and impoverishing the country.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. Only sensible thing that douchebag has ever said

Really, man.

[wakeme2008]

12. Freepers must be shitting over this one

:popcorn:

[bluestateguy]

15. They sure are

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1620625/posts

[closeupready]

13. It won't work, because people won't cooperate

Not even the staunchly conservative Catholic Church is going to cooperate with such measures, to say nothing of the illegals themselves.

[Eugene]

16. We agree on the obvious but Bush mentions everything but

deterring the hiring of undocumented workers. If the jobs are here, the workers will come,
whatever the risks. If Bush doesn't commit resources to workplace enforcement and
stand up to the business community, he's just talking.

[NoEvilTony]

17. But DRAFTING these folks... that might work.

THAT is my concern. It might be my tin foil hat messing with my brain, but I would not be surprised to see Herr Monkey propose:

"You want to be a 'merican? Join the Army. If you want to stay, you dont have a choice."

Nothing surprises me anymore.

[Sinti]

23. They've done it with our citizens. Army or jail - your choice

And if I recall correctly, near the beginning of the war they were touting how we had these soon-to-be-citizens earning their right to naturalize by fighting over there. Sure would take the heat off regarding a potential draft, and enable us to fight tons more wars. 12 million, if 1/4 of those take the offer -- after being held in the detention camps for a few months they might -- that's a pretty sizable force.

:tinfoilhat:

[meganmonkey]

18. Which is why Halliburton is building MASSIVE detention facilities

on contract with the Feds:

While thousands of people were celebrating the contribution America's undocumented immigrants make to our economy, and demanding justice and recognition for workers who are denied basic rights, the government was making plans for large-scale detention centers in case of an "emergency influx" of immigrants.

KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary recently reprimanded for gross overcharging in its military contracts in Iraq, won a $385 million contract to build the centers. According to the Halliburton website--www.Halliburton.com--"the contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

What new programs might those be?

more.....

http://www.progressive.org/mag_rcb041706

Can't help but wonder how they will handle due process in filling these places up...also can't help but wonder if those of us who would become FELONS for providing undocumented immigrants with nonprofit social services will also be sent to these detainment facilities?
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[NoEvilTony]

19. Jesus IS coming back, but...

he will be some poor immigrant sent to fight our unjust wars.

Rapid development of new programs? Um, I may have lost my mind, but I feel certain that these discussions have taken place. It's one way around a draft.

I sure hope I'm WAY off base.

[Barrett808]

22. Welcome to DU, NoEvilTony!

:hi:

[Barrett808]

21. Operation Endgame and the "immigration emergency"

"Operation Endgame" still on the agenda
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=959004&mesg_id=959004

[gratuitous]

20. Notice it took him several weeks to say this?

Certainly other people have looked at this situation, and said that deporting 11 million people who don't want to go is unrealistic. Bush has to know at least as much as the dozens of folks who've already said this, but you notice he waited several weeks while this issue was on a full boil to step in and make any kind of pronouncement?

Uniter-not-a-divider, my sweet Aunt Fanny.

[chelsea0011]

24. And why does he have to even comment on that wacky idea?

This is a silly idea to begin with. And speaking of beginning. When I first heard blowhard Bay Buchanan throw this out like it was as easy as picking your nose, I thought immediately as to how you would even begin a program like this. You could never get this out of a committee for any kind of plan. I can imagine the National Guard called back from Iraq crashing down doors in Beverly Hills, rounding up farm workers, raiding Home Depot parking lots. 11,000,000! It would be a huge military invasion in out backyrads unlike any ever seen. And the courts. Holy shit. And people think this can work? That's why cable news sucks. It's filled with empty minds.

[Brooklyn Michael]

25. Shorter Bush:....

"C'mon, guys! I know you're my bigoted, xenophobic supporters, but I gots to keep the Gee-Oh-Pee in control of Congress or my ass is TOAST!"

[lovuian]

27. George what you need is to defend our borders

and where is that tough guy stance now... He's still going to get burned...

[Martin Eden]

28. His corporate masters want the cheap labor

His position has absolutely nothing to do with compassion.

[Blaq Dem]

30. The Corps. should pay for deportation

of course we know they won't. And the Mexican government won't either.

[Martin Eden]

31. The corporations are the key ...

... and I'm not necessarily talking about *'s marching orders.

Undocumented workers cross our borders illegally to seek employment, so any solution has to involve a requirement for employers to hire only documented workers. Whether you think they should be deported or have the opportunity -- based on certain factors -- to remain and work, we can never get a handle on the situation except through the workplace.

It is the most obvious solution, and yet congress doesn't seem to be focusing on it. Why is that, do you think?

[3waygeek]

29. Of course it's not realistic

especially since they just gave Halliburton a $400 million contract to build "detention camps" to hold the "illegal immigrants". If you deported them, you couldn't justify that expense.