Eighth general has called for Rumsfeld’s resignation

[k-robjoe]

"Fox News is reporting an eighth general has called for Rumsfeld’s resignation. Ret. Marine General Paul Van Riper said he constantly talks with many active duty and retired senior officers who share his feelings that Secretary Rumsfeld has not fought the Iraq war competently. He told Fox that Rumsfeld has run the Pentagon through intimidation and that a change in leadership is needed."

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/24/eighth-general/

[hiley]

1. Good

:) re-due the frickin' policy.

[Jack from Charlotte]

21. I think it's more than 8. Does anyone have a list.......?

Don't forget Eric Shenski, who was fired by these AWOL/morons early on. Also, William Odom, Reagan's head of National Security, has been brutal in his condemnation of the AWOL/child.

[TankLV]

33. It's now NINE, not 8. They've been talking about it on NPR all day & just

mentioned 9 on CNN now.

[WhiteTara]

2. good

:kick: Let the hits keep coming.

[stillcool]

3. great quote from one of the other generals....

Lt. Gen. Gregory S. Newbold, the former operations officer for the Joint Chiefs, wrote, in Time magazine, "My sincere view is that the commitment of our forces to this fight was done with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions — or bury the results."

[AuntiBush]

6. Such a Profound Statement...

"with a casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions — or bury the results..."

[stillcool]

20. Kerry also quoted him in his speech...

the other day at Faneuil Hall...

[shanti]

7. wow

couldn't get any more clearer than that! :wow:

[arewenotdemo]

45. "casualness and swagger"

That accurately describes the Monkey's "Bring 'em on!"

[HullBoss]

4. Good

Let's give him a medal,and send him into retirement for the good of the military

[AndyTiedye]

19. The Kind of Medal He Deserves Looks Sort of Like a License Plate

[RamboLiberal]

5. And now a retired Nixon appointed Judge says Rummy

shows disregard for military law.

John J. Gibbons, a former Chief Judge of the Third Circuit Court of Appeals appointed by President Richard Nixon and a former officer in the U.S. Navy, joined the chorus of critics attacking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Monday, RAW STORY has learned.

"As many distinguished experts have concluded, Donald Rumsfeld has failed in his job as Secretary of Defense," Gibbons said in a statement released to RAW STORY. "I believe our security, our military and our rule of law have all suffered under his leadership.

"The recent disclosure of testimony from the Army Inspector General's 391-page report from December 2005 indicates that Secretary Rumsfeld had far more knowledge of and responsibility for degrading and abusive treatment of my client than he previously acknowledged. The Army's own reports reveal a Defense Secretary showing a disturbing disregard for military law.

"As a retired judge, a lawyer and a veteran, I have the utmost respect for our country's laws and our commitment to civilian control of the military. Those obligations are consistent with an honest public debate about our country's leadership and U.S. policy."

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Retired_chief_justice_for_third_circuit_0424.html

[Joe for Clark]

8. It is funny to me, how in God's name

The leader of the 82nd Airborne and the Big Red One could EVER be discounted by B*sh or anyone else, for that matter.

Not for them, probably we all speak German now.

I'll be glad to have the honor to stand with those gentlemen.

And they are NOT alone.

We do win this one - and we better act like winners.

You hear Lush Limbaugh today??


Oh, we win this one! I know a loser when I hear one. We are FDRs children here.

Joe

[Mr_Spock]

9. Heard that on Ed

There can never be enough - I wonder what it will take to get this buffoon to step down?

[patriothackd]

10. So how hard do you think they'll fight

if it looks like someone might go to jail?

Will GW's people cut him loose or if they do, can Rummy turn on them to put them in the noose?

[tabasco]

28. Go to jail for what?

Please elaborate.

Go to jail for speaking out against the government, in a country that was started by men speaking out against the government?

People who wish to suppress a citizen's right to criticize the government are traitors.

So what are you talking about? :shrug:

This isn't some of draft-dodger drug addict Limbaugh's garbage, is it?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. Read the post again....you took it 180 degrees wrong.

[tabasco]

32. Oh ok. I thought you were talking about the generals

going to jail. My bad, I guess.

:hi:

[katty]

11. this is good, keep 'em coming

[Ammonium]

12. The chorus is growing by the day

[Bob K]

13. Aw Geez..............

How could all these generals ever question Rummy - with all his battlefield experience and war decorations??? :dunce:

[cliss]

14. This is it, DU:ers.

I just read on another blog site that Rumsfailed has finally pushed the "powers behind the powers", the real decision-makers (not like Court Jester Bush).

Word has it that they are convinced Rumsfailed is bad news. Just watch.....counting my one-dollar bills.....I'm starting a pool...

...it's coming....

[IndianaGreen]

15. But, but, the Decider has said he is keeping Rummy

How dare these former generals oppose our Great Leader?

[leftchick]

17. who would replace him?

This jackass?

GORDON ENGLAND

Deputy Secretary of Defense



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On April 7, 2005, the President nominated Secretary of the Navy Gordon England as Deputy Secretary of Defense. Mr. England served as Acting Deputy from May 16, 2005 to January 4, 2006, when he was recess appointed by the President as Deputy Secretary. He was confirmed by the Senate on April 6, 2006 as the 29th Deputy Secretary of Defense.

[Roland99]

23. LIEberman

[IndianaGreen]

26. I rather have Lieberman in the Pentagon than in the Senate

For all his faults, Lieberman would be a model of propriety compared to Rummy and his friends. With Lieberman in the E-ring, Ned Lamont can become the next Senator from CT. Ned will vote to convict Bush of high crimes and misdemeanors, something that Lieberman will never do.

[IndianaGreen]

25. The Senate wouldn't confirm that POS of Gordon England

a man that has publicly referred to labor unions as a bunch of nazis.

[ShortnFiery]

16. Excellent! Kudos for this honorable General coming forward

:patriot:

[Pharaoh]

18. quicktime sucks!!!

Am I the only one or does quicktime have serious problems?

it rarely works for me and when it does it is way sub par to WM or Realplayer

[ClintonTyree]

24. No, you're not the only one.....

I uninstalled it and will never install it again. If something requires QT to view, I don't view it. Simple as that.

[Pharaoh]

41. yes I don't view try to

view them anymore but I'll try that real player classic download and see if that works......

[DrDebug]

27. Get RealPlayer Classic

It comes with RealPlayer Alternative and QuickTime Alternative as additional options and will not only play almost all formats, you'll be able to play Real and QT is the standard player as well. The only thing it cannot play are those Microsoft WMV with their closed proprietary code (which is a lot nowadays). It's a free software of course. Just google for it.

[Pharaoh]

42. thanks for the tip!

I'll download it today!

[Catamount]

22. Even Fox is waking up?

Good to see a general speak out against the Decider's wishes!

[BuyingThyme]

29. kcik

[usregimechange]

30. kick

[rpannier]

34. Another one headed for the faux dungeon.

He won't ever be seen a gain.
Except when faux news is pointing out the sedition by scrubs opponents.

[CAG]

35. Why don't these lilly-livered pinko generals luv 'murka...

Ollie North put them in their place last night on Faux with our new fair and balanced WH spokesperson Tony Snow, going back and forth about how terrible it was that these retired generals actually criticized the rummeister.

:sarcasm:

[MiniMe]

36. The rethug spin is "8 out of thousands of retired generals"

It is insignificant. Look how wonderful it is that they can express their opinion. They are hurting the war effort and destroying the morale of the troops.

Excuse me, I have to go puke.

[CAG]

38. Of course, the constantly incompetent nimcompoops in the admin

don't hurt troop morale at all, do they??

What do you think hurts troop morale more?
1) some retired generals pointing out what most americans feel about Rummy's incompetency,
or
2) Rummy's incompetency itself?

What is the reason the troops still don't have the supplies they need?
1) the Repub-owned administration, house, and senate who have the responsibility to authorize and deliver the actual supplies,
or
2) that ol' 'murka-hatin' librul media

[beltanefauve]

44. NPR interviewed

a nameless retired officer at Ft Bragg that pretty much said that everytime we express dissent, "we are giving the terrorists bullets." :mad:

They hate us for our freedoms, supposedly, but apparently the First Amendment is no longer one of them.

http://www.npr.org

[Auntie Bush]

37. I wonder if they are counting General Wes Clark among the 8 or is

he #9? Maybe they don't count him because he never worked under Rummy and he was always against the war.

[doc03]

39. Yea but Ulysses S. Grant still supports the war

[SanJoseGamecock]

40. Fox News Has Blocked THIS VIDEO!!

I tried to access this report video on line at FoxNews.com and they have blocked access to it. Go Figure!!

[bdamomma]

43. I am glad also

that these Generals are speaking out, Rummy is an arrogant and ignorant man. It is time for him to go and take Cheney too. These (Cheney and Rumsfeld) guys are totally sick. All of them.

[zann725]

46. I thought we already had 8? Isn't this 9? Any way, we have a "full! deck"

(grounds) for removal of troops AND Admin.

Kerry in '08...if not sooner.