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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:12 AM Original message |
Publisher to Recall Harvard Student's Novel (NYT) |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. oops. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Betcha this twit has already spent her advance! |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Harvard ain't cheap, probably what she spent it on |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. Well, if the publisher makes her pay it back, as they should, |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. The publisher (yesterday) was standing by their deal with the author. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. I hope this is a lesson to publishers and acquisitions editors. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I have to disagree on one point here: |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I really don't disagree with you on that point. |
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reprobate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Your right. 18-22 yr olds are NO T mature. Neurological research has |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Oh keerist |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yeah, no kidding. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
42. That story is here |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:08 AM Response to Reply #42 |
62. Yeah. That's it. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 02:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
32. oh what happy horsepuckey |
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jarab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 07:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Good and sensible post. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Do you ever say anything that's not combatively argumentative? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Plagiarism is not against the law |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Fraud generally is, however. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Sadly, it's a lesson I doubt we in the industry will learn |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. What also disturbs me about this: |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 01:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. A well-read CE or Acq Ed would have |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. A future New York Times hiree,... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
8. If publishers didn't have a zeal to publish works by Ivy Leaguers |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. And to file their ranks with kids just graduated from Ivy League schools |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. The so-called author must be registered as a republican. |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. you know, I was just reading |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I dunno...I kinda believe her |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. How can it be an "accident" if it occurred more than 20 times? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. That's what I'm explaining in my post there |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 02:18 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. no it was supposedly based on her OWN story |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 06:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It's precisely the point that the content doesn't matter |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. Kaavya Viswanathan did not confess to copying |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 01:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Kind of like the Red State Blogger guy at Washington Post, except he |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 02:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. yes sociopaths always have a story, don't they? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Plagiarism by any other name is still plagiarism |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Nonsense |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
14. Good. Glad they pulled it. |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
18. Be sure your sins will find you out. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. Do people with photographic memories remember WHERE they read stuff? |
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miss_american_pie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I'm not sure about that |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-28-06 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
28. she was lying through her teeth on the Today Show the other day |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. it's funny |
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Halliburton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 07:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. maybe Harvard shoud look at her admissions essays |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 07:36 AM Response to Reply #30 |
53. To be fair fuji, all of those passages are what I consider to be oft used |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 02:05 AM Response to Original message |
31. she should go to jail, this is a major fraud |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 07:49 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Jeez, it's not a criminal offense! There are enough civil remedies |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. It's a violation of copyright; she profited from theft of work not hers. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Oy |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #41 |
57. Actually, it's probably not a sufficiently substantial copying for a claim |
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wizdum (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
56. She and her publisher should be sued. She for theft and the publisher for |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
46. My daughter and I have read all three books, and I have to say I |
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Mayberry Machiavelli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Whose jealousy? Are you saying her fellow students turned her in? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-29-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I haven't read the books |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. With all respect, not all writers see language in the same light. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I agree...not all writers see language the same way |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 07:31 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. My comment was originally that my daughter and I read all three books, |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. You take your clothes with you, when you swim. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Except, the book says he took them off on the ship then swam to the |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. That's where you normally carry your clothes when you swim- |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I'll keep that in mind next time I go to the beach. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. I was actually replying to somebody else's reply to you... |
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peacefreak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
54. Unlike the majority of the people here, I did read an advance of Opal.... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. What's amazing to me is that the editors |
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wizdum (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
55. Stupid publishers pay this plagiarizer top dollar and she steals another's |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Being that she worked with a book packager on this thing |
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