McCain warns Russia, China on Iran

[ShockediSay]

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyid=2006-04-28T195437Z_01_L28794599_RTRUKOC_0_US-NUCLEAR-IRAN-MCCAIN.xml

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - A leading U.S. senator warned Russia and China on Friday of damage to their relationship with the United States if they refused to go along with sanctions against Iran.

Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona told a Brussels conference that Iran's nuclear program posed the greatest security threat to the world alongside terrorism.

The U.N. Security Council should impose sanctions including an investment ban, a travel ban and asset freezes on government leaders and nuclear scientists, McCain said....

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Bush, Rice and now McCain -
the US has become a government of preachy, powerless finger-waggers

[kenny blankenship]

1. So is that blackmail or extortion? I get them confused.

[0007]

42. McCain is that little pot bellied, cross eyed, pigeon toed, bald

headed, knocked kneed, flip flopping, double clutching, Jerry Falwell lover and ass kisser with junior's shit all over his nose and with half his face missing. Not hard to pick out of flock of crows.

[cantstandbush]

63. The US is the greatest threat against peace and democracy!!!

We have dropped two atomic bombs (nukes)on a foreign country (civilians)when it wasn't necessary cause the war was virtually over, invaded the continents of Asia, south and east, and Iraq and we are now threatening to invade or bomb Iran. Now you tell me who is the greatest threat to this planet?

[kenny blankenship]

75. Rhodan?

[INDIA]

88. You're right!

We are the WORST! YEAAAAAAAA!:yourock: :applause: :applause: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Poll_Blind]

How can you play hardball when you don't own the racquet or ball?

What a joke McCain is. I once had quite a bit of respect for him but after taking a shiv in the ear from Bush and thanking him for it, I've changed my mind.

PB

[Tempest]

7. McCain sure has become quite the Bush whore, hasn't he?

He has no shame or self-respect.

There's no way I would support him now or in the future.

[jdelullo]

50. My thoughts exactly

Ever since that Southern Republicans convention or whatever when he kissed Bush's ass big time, I've been slowly loosing respect for him. He used to be, although a member of the GOP, a pretty straight shooter who spoke his mind and for the most part could give two shits about party politics. But now it seems like he's trying to do whatever he can to reel in some Bush supporters for 2008. Maybe he should take a look at the new poll numbers and jump off the Bush band wagon, considering Bush is about as popular as the bubonic plague right now. He's gone from decent and respectable opposition to just another hen falling in line..... sad.

[begley]

2. How do you think the Iran situation should be handled?

They are getting nukes against the wishes of the U.N. What should be done?

[Tempest]

3. They are not getting nukes

The IAEA has stated time and again there is no evidence Iran has a secret nuclear weapons program.

Now if you have evidence otherwise, present it.

Jeesh.

[begley]

8. You're joking, aren't you?

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,430649,00.html

I thought this was common knowledge.

[Mythsaje]

11. They don't have the facilities or the equipment

to even think of building nuclear weapons. Their supreme leader issued a Fatwa (a binding religious command) that they could and would not build nuclear weapons.

They have every right to seek nuclear power, however.

Besides, Time is hardly a credible news source these days.

[Tempest]

12. No, and you haven't provided evidence

Uranium is enriched for energy production.

The IAEA said there is no evidence Iran is enriching uranium for weapons use.

The Time article is full of opinion, supposition and is woefully lacking in evidence of a weapons program.

[begley]

16. Did you read the article?

"On a visit last month to Tehran, International Atomic Energy Agency director Mohamed ElBaradei announced he had discovered that Iran was constructing a facility to enrich uranium — a key component of advanced nuclear weapons — near Natanz. But diplomatic sources tell TIME the plant is much further along than previously revealed. The sources say work on the plant is "extremely advanced" and involves "hundreds" of gas centrifuges ready to produce enriched uranium and "the parts for a thousand others ready to be assembled."

What kind of evidence are you looking for?

[Tempest]

19. There is no evidence the facility is used for weapons enrichment

As I said earlier, uranium is enriched for energy production as well as for weapons production.

And ElBaradei did not say the facility was being used for weapons production. As a matter of fact, he said just the opposite. He said there was no evidence there was a weapons program.


If you want to believe the words of a reporter who has never been to Iran and probably doesn't know the first thing about uranium enrichment, that's your right.

I'm not so easily fooled.

[begley]

20. Why is it hard to believe

Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons capability? Because they said they weren't?

[Tempest]

23. The real question is, why are you ignoring the IAEA?

The IAEA has reported there is no evidence Iran has a weapons program.

Why do you continue to ignore this fact?


Trust me, you're not as informed on the issue as IAEA is.

[begley]

40. IAEA has reported no such thing. Link.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2006/sc8679.doc.htm

"Noting with serious concern Iran’s resumption of uranium enrichment-related activities and its suspension of cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the Security Council underlined this afternoon the importance of re-establishing full and sustained suspension of all enrichment-related and reprocessing activities, including research and development.

The Council noted with serious concern that the IAEA Director General’s report of 27 February (document GOV/2006/14) listed a number of outstanding issues, including topics which could have a military nuclear dimension, and that the Agency was unable to conclude that there were no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran. "

[truth2power]

54. Read it more closely, Begley...

"... the Agency was unable to conclude that there were no undeclared nuclear materials or activities in Iran."

Translation: We can't prove there are NO nuclear materials...

You can't prove a negative. We already ran that one on Saddaam. You'd think people would learn by now.

[begley]

56. I was responding to Tempest's first post

"They are not getting nukes"

She posted that. I proved this claim false. Im just wondering why Iran isn't cooperating with the UN if there no problem. Why does the UN want them to cooperate if there is no problem? Cooperate with what? Get the picture? Everyone in the world seems to get it except a few posters in here.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. Why do you chose to believe the NeoCon propaganda?

[Tempest]

30. It appears

He ran out of neocon talking points and left.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

22. How much NeoCon propaganda do you actually believe?

[Tempest]

24. All of it apparently

So far he refuses to acknowledge the IAEA's statements regarding Iran's lack of a weapons program.

[begley]

41. UN Security Council is neocon?

[54anickel]

39. It's dated March of 2003. There's been a lot more going on since then.

[stillcool]

13. ......

February 14, 2002: US Military Bases Line Afghan Pipeline Route
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=pipelinePolitics
The Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv notes: “If one looks at the map of the big American bases created , one is struck by the fact that they are completely identical to the route of the projected oil pipeline to the Indian Ocean.” Ma’ariv also states, “Osama bin Laden did not comprehend that his actions serve American interests... If I were a believer in conspiracy theory, I would think that bin Laden is an American agent. Not being one I can only wonder at the coincidence.”

Following its bombing of Iraq in 1991, the United States wound up with military bases in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and the United Arab Emirates.

Following its bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, the United States wound up with military bases in Kosovo, Albania, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Hungary, Bosnia and Croatia.
Following its bombing of Afghanistan in 2001-2, the United States wound up with military bases in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Georgia, Yemen and Djibouti.
Following its bombing and invasion of Iraq in 2003, the United States wound up with Iraq.
This is not very subtle foreign policy. Certainly not covert. The men who run the American Empire are not easily embarrassed.
And that's the way the empire grows -- a base in every region, ready to be mobilized to put down any threat to imperial rule, real or imagined. Sixty years after World War II ended, the United States still has major bases in Germany and Japan; fifty-two years after the end of the Korean War, tens of thousands of American armed forces continue to be stationed in South Korea.

http://www.killinghope.org/

[stillcool]

27. and then there's this...

2006/04/26
Iran's oil stock exchange, next week
07:47:57 È.Ù
Tehran, April 26 - Oil Minister Kazem Vaziri Hamaneh said on Wednesday that the establishment of Oil Stock Exchange is in its final stage and the bourse will be launched in Iran in the next week.

He rejected a statement attributed to him saying that Oil Stock Exchange will bring to the ground the US economy and said, "I don't know who has speculated that I've not talked about US economy." Asked about conference on energy in Doha, he said that more than 60 countries and 30 oil companies and consultants took part in the conference.

Asked about the oil price rise, Vaziri-Hamaneh said that oil price is being influenced by political situation, whereas it should be freed from political impacts and economic and technical fundamentals should determine the oil prices.
"As long as political impacts dominate the oil market, price hike will continue," he concluded.

http://www.iribnews.ir/Full_en.asp?news_id=212013&n=32

[teryang]

43. There is a big difference between S.Korea and Central Asia

Bases in Korea have a transportation infrastructure and are not far from the sea. We are a sea power. Japans infrastructure nearby is necessary to any war in Korea.

Bases deep inland in Asia are far from adequate lines of support and sea ports where they can be adequately supplied. Typically, infrastructure surrounding the bases is totally inadequate to support wartime missions. The bases are far too remote. This is one reason for lite forces concept. Large forces cannot be maintained by these bases. Lines of communication and support are far too vulnerable to enemy activity. The end of the line is a hard scrabble mountain path a goat couldn't climb. The archipelego of air bases concept is only one step beyond influence peddling by embassy based arms dealers. The base infrastructure could not withstand a serious military challenge. Only aerospace contractor/ special forces dreamers crippled by 19th Century (Rhodesian) concepts of colonial warfare think they were creating an empire with this flimsy line of inland Asian of bases.

Berlin could be supplied by air during a crisis of limited duration from an adequate modern infrastructure located nearby. Central and Southern Asia do not by any means fit these criteria.

[stillcool]

57. war time missions?...

It seems to me the global US presence is to protect investments.

[teryang]

65. Air base presence is ineffective to protect infrastructure...

...as shown in Iraq and Afghanistan. Any serious challenge cannot be defeated by American base presence in inland Asia. In this sense, the cost effectiveness formula is a loser except for defense contractors, arms salesman, and delusional energy investors.

[Master Mahon]

15. They are not in violation

of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty they signed with the UN.
They do have the right to Nuclear Energy and at least have the
common sense to pursue it, knowing that Oil use is not the answer
for the indefinite future.
I wouldn't blame then if they did pursue Nukes however.
Mutually assured destruction is what kept us from threatening Russia
for decades. Since the Israelis have nukes, and are NOT a part of the
NNT, I see Irans move as an act of self preservation.
We'd do the same thing if it were us in their place!

[ixion]

38. nice propaganda post

thanks for playing, but time is NOT a reliable source. ;-)

[karlrschneider]

70. This crap is over THREE YEARS OLD.

Puh-leeese...

[Tight_rope]

87. So what...let them have their damn weapons...The US is not GOD!

[patdem]

9. It's called diplomacy...something foreign to the bush* cabal..remember

the cold war? Russia had thousands of nukes just as we did..Iran will NEVER BE A THREAT LIKE RUSSIA WAS..and we never fired a shot at Russia nor they us...we worked it ALL out diplomatically...INCLUDING THE CUBA MISSLE CRISIS! Let Iran beat their shoe on the podium at the UN as Kruschev (sp???) did..but NUKE IRAN? WHY?

Bolton claims we have been doing diplomacy for years...YEARS...MAYBE IF IT WERE CENTURIES YOU COULD GET MY ATTENTION...only WE HAVE NOT TALKED TO IRAN DIRECTLY FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS...so do not CLAIM diplomacy.

Years of diplomacy...my my...THERE WILL BE MORE CIVILIANS KILLED IN AN ATTACK THAN THE NUMBER OF YEARS WE TALKED TO IRAN ...OF COURSE THOSE 'YEARS' IS ZERO THE NUMBER KILLED COULD BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS! :grr:

[SlavesandBulldozers]

14. there's only one way.

war.

the republican solution to everything. the solution that creates a million more problems that they can propose to solve with. . . you guessed it. . . more war! yeehaw!! profits for everyone (if youre a rich republican)!!!!

[begley]

18. So what do you suggest should be done?

This is a serious question. I don't know the answer.

[Tempest]

21. How about unilateral talks with Iran?

The problem is, Cheney and the neocons won't allow them.

www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32672

[SlavesandBulldozers]

28. diplomacy. send a diplomat to Iran.

talk to them. embrace their moderates, isolate their extremists. See Bill Clinton.

why do i fucking bother.

[begley]

73. Moderates aren't in power in Iran.

How do you propose to talk to them?

[SlavesandBulldozers]

76. go and meet with their wackos. that's what we used to do.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

77. but they're in power here, eh?

interesting.

[kysrsoze]

35. OK, if Nukes are such an issue, why do we ignore Korea? Seriously...

if Iran wanted nuclear weapons, it would be much easier for them to acquire the weapons from Russia, China or the black market. If we continue to push this, it's like they will seek further assistance from Russia and China, both of which refuse to back sanctions.

Looks like this is setting up a nice standoff on its own, with no help needed from us. I think the concept of mutually assured destruction is starting to come into play. The question is whether a certain Administration cares.

[TheWatcher]

44. What do YOU suggest be done?

You come here flaunting NeoCon talking points, ignore any facts and debate that doesn't support those talking points, and then you want US to make a suggestion?

We pretty much know what your suggestion would be.

You will find little support or quarter here for what your President wants to do.

That pretty much ends the conversation.

NEXT.

[begley]

49. UN Security Council is neocon?

OK. Fine. Convince yourself Iran isn't a problem. Then you won't have to come up with a solution.

[converted_democrat]

52. If indeed nukes are such a problem, why aren't we going after

South Korea? There is no evidence of an Iranian nuke weapons program.. But I digress, if nukes are such an issue, why are we letting South Korea have a pass?

[begley]

55. That wasn't my question.

I asked what people thought we should do about Iran developing nukes. But good question, what should we be doing about Korea developing nukes?

[converted_democrat]

59. N. Korea already has them, Iran does not.. Big difference.. There are no

reliable sources that state Iran has an active nuclear weapons program.. Again, why are we not "threatened" by North Korean nukes, but we are threatened my non existing Iranian nukes??


on edit- In the post of mine above this one, I stated South Korea, and I meant North Korea..

[begley]

62. I think we are threatened by N. Korean nukes

What do you think we should do about them? But there is a difference. Iran is filled with nuts who don't even care about their own lives in order to bring the demise of us infidels. That's what makes that situation more scary. And although they have not yet shown nuclear capability, the sources Ive cited all state they appear headed in that direction, enough to cause the UN to be concerned.

[converted_democrat]

64. Kim Jong-il Is crazier than a shit house rat, and he already has nukes..

Iran doesn't have nukes, and most reports say that they even if that's what they're up to, it would be 5-10 years before they have anything.. We do not have the resources to start another war, and if we did, North Korea is a much more immanent threat than Iran.. If we try to mess with Iran, the first thing that will probably happen is they will move to block the Strait of Hormuz, where 60 some % of all oil must pass through.. Gas will go to 10.00 a gallon or more, and our economy will most likely ground to a halt, and our nation will face financial ruin.. It isn't a good idea, no matter how you slice it.. We need to conduct unilateral talks with Iran to deal with the situation.. Cheney seems to be against that.. Wonder why?

[begley]

66. But can you really reason with nuts?

Iran's first demand will be to cut ties with Israel.

[converted_democrat]

68. China and Russia have decent ties with them, they would have a much

better shot at it than we would.. There is no good reason to risk America's financial future on going after Iran.. We can't even keep Iraq in line, and Iran is much more formidable opponent.. Why go after non existent nukes, chancing the financial future of our nation? We can't even handle Iraq, there is no way we could control Iran. It would be an even bigger mess than we currently face, and our nation would be financially ruined.. It isn't worth the risk, if you are on the side of the average American citizen.. If you're an oilman looking to drive up the price of oil, or a member of the military industrial complex it's a brilliant plan.. It seems very suspect to me that Cheney doesn't want talks.. We need to let China and Russia handle it..

[begley]

69. What's a brilliant plan?

Im asking if anybody has one. I do not.

[converted_democrat]

71. We need to work to restore our world image, and legally remove the

oilmen and war profiteers from office.. As long as they are in power they are going to try to get us into scuffles that benefit them, and their interests.. We need to clean up our own house, and worry about other issues after we have handled that.. We are hated around the world for good reason, we let some really bad people do some really bad things in our name, and we didn't really even try to stop it.. We need to fix our own country first, and worry about the other issues down the line. Even if Iran is building a weapons program they're 5-10 years off by nearly all estimates.. We have time to deal with them if indeed they are planning on building a nuke.. That's plenty of time to clean up this country, and then if we deem Iran as a real threat, we can deal with it..

[begley]

72. When was our country last 'clean'

in your estimation?

[converted_democrat]

74. We haven't been clean in a long time, I'll give you that, but it's still

no excuse.. Past administrations have been dirty, but I don't remember any trying to take us to the brink of financial collapse over greed.. They want high oil prices, and they want war just to satisfy their own greed.. They aren't representing the interests of the nation as a whole, all they care about is their own selfish interests, and they don't care what happens to America as a result..

edited for clarity..

[SlavesandBulldozers]

78. hey i know.

why don't you continue to ask questions instead of offering any opinion. And make sure to ask it in terms of "well if the chimpadministration's approach isn't the best. . .just what is?" As if their interests are our own.

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[readmoreoften]

82. The question is, why are they more of a threat than NK or anyone else?

They have a right to pursue nuclear power. Their neighbors have nuclear weapons. They have no aggressed on anyone in modern history. Why are we so afraid of them?

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[readmoreoften]

92. And when has Iran done this?

Never. Bin Laden is a terrorist. Iran is an entire country filled with people of all types. Bin Laden attacked NYC and DC. Iran is just sitting there in Iran, being Iran. Pakistan is also FILLED with Islamic extremists who could take over the government at any point. We are buddies with Pakistan.

You are confusing a religion with country. It's about as sane as an islamic fundamentalist extremist wanting to bomb NYC to get rid of christian fundamentalist extremists.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

83. hahahah! good one.

that was an interesting way to address my last post. with more questions. what are you some kind of talking points question generator?

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[SlavesandBulldozers]

91. no. I think you're the talking points generator. or generatee.

thanks for playing though. it's been really fun having you ask all sorts of questions

[converted_democrat]

60. Stated S. Korea, and meant N. Korea.. Ran out of editing time before

I found the mistake..

[Miss Chybil]

29. Let's pretend...

You're Iran. I'm the US. I call you the "axis of evil" and I've got a lot of nukes. My best friend lives a couple houses down from you and he's got a few nukes that I gave him. I have some "sort of" friends scattered throughout your neighborhood and they've got nukes, too. I just moved into the house on the right of you and I just blew the shit out of the house on the left of you. Now, I'm building a luxury townhouse in the middle of the rubble. (The people who used to live there, if they aren't dead, are still scrounging around on the property for some scraps, but I'm not going to let them in the house. I do have my standards, you know.)

I've decided I'm going to build huge military bases around my new house and I really don't like how you're behaving and I really, really do like your oil. So, I tell you, you either do what I say, or I'm going to blow the shit out of you. You get a little nervous and you think, maybe, I won't blow the shit out of you, if you get some of your OWN nukes. When the guys in the Korean house over yonder said they had nukes, I left them alone. So, you think this might be a good idea. Ok, so, now what do you do?

Alright - back to real life:

Here's how we handle Iran... we need to rejoin the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and we need to talk to them and everybody else on this rock about getting rid of ALL nukes. Period.

[leesa]

61. You are incorrect. There is no evidence for development of nuclear weapon

[wakeme2008]

4. Iran has money in the bank and can cut off Europe in a heartbeat

If the Eurpeans think $6 per gallon is high wait till it hits $12 per gallon....

[jrthin]

5. The little twerp can

go and play with himself.

[Tempest]

6. What exactly can the U.S. do to China?

Threaten to stop purchasing their goods?

Stop selling U.S. Treasury notes to them?

Too bad Bush put the U.S. in a position where there is nothing we can do about China.

[Master Mahon]

32. We Can Stop buying their Finger Trap Toys

http://cgi.ebay.com/24-x-Chinese-Finger-Trap-Toys-Super-4-Re-sellers_W0QQitemZ7613319470QQcategoryZ90950QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

[Tempest]

33. Not that!

Think of the children!

[jpak]

10. You Go Crazy John

We ain't gonna buy no nothin' from them dam commies or sell 'em any mo' of our national debt lessen they doos likes we what we tell 'em whats to doos.

mo-ran...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. The NeoCons are feeling the power slip through their fingers.

[cliss]

34. How true. Today, they just got kicked in the teeth.

China came forth and made a statement, "China opposes U.N. resolution on Iran". So now it's back to the drawing board, John B. It stopped them cold in their tracks.

I couldn't help noticing the wording of this 'warning'? "McCain warns RUSSIA, China on Iran". Note that even though CHINA came out today and made its statement, McCain addresses Russia first, and then China.

Obviously, they are afraid of China (Big Daddy).

[katinmn]

26. Oh STFU McCain

:puke:

[Sequoia]

31. China and Russia have been around for ages

and we the upstart baby country are just bullies in the play yard. Russia and China should tell McCain to just go hug his daddy George W. Bush and shut the hell up. Futhermore, Russia and China should tell the USA to stick it 'cause they don't need us anyway.

[henslee]

36. John "Sybill" McCain posturing for 2008 perhaps? If I see the guy

on TV, I projectile vomit. Nothing makes my skin crawl more than McCain's face after he thinks he's delivered a clever joke on a late night talk show.

[CoffeeCat]

37. Is the world sick of the United States yet?

Who are we to issue threats and ultimatums to other countries?

We can't even get our own shit straight.

I think the world has grown weary of the big, bad United States talking down to everyone.

We use to be the Homecoming Queen/Prom King of the world---now we're just the frickin bullies that everyone despises and laughs at--behind our backs.

Just like what happens to most bullies--someone will call us out and the truth will be revealed--that we are economically vulnerable and we're in trouble because most nations hate us now.

All China has to do is sell the loans to someone else, or call in the money themselves, and we are screwed.

We need to STFU. McCain needs to STFU.

[IndianaGreen]

45. Any McCain fans left in DU?

The evidence is overwhelming: McCain is insane!

Bush, Rice and now McCain - the US has become a government of preachy, powerless finger-waggers

The US will end up like the Vatican, ranting and railing against a world they can no longer influence and that no longer cares what they have to say.

[wizdum]

51. Well said, I wish I had said it myself.

McCain has had his fifteen minutes of fame. He could have gone down in history as one of the greats if he would have ran against dubya in 2000 as an independent, thereby splitting the Republican vote. That would have stopped dubya/rove from stealing the election. Instead, he chose to be a dick weed and now he is just a powerless inept insignificant irrelevant ass clown who thinks he's somebody, but is really a nobody. He should retire and ride off into the sunset, never to return. Nobody would miss him.

[HuffleClaw]

46. BWHAHAHHAHHAHAAAAAAA

'STOP or i'll yell STOP again!'

what a joke.

[converted_democrat]

53. Exactly.. n/t

[Toucano]

47. Travel Ban! ROLFMAO!

You go, John!

[wizdum]

48. McCain is an inept dufus who can kiss my white Irish arse...

No one listens to McCain. When is he going to realize that he is IRRELEVANT and STOP talking to himself in the mirror?! He must have brain damage by now from banging his head on the desk of the Oval Office so much while getting up from under it after wanking off dubya. The guy stands for nothing and is more reprehensible than dubya himself. Yuk!

[Poll_Blind]

58. Here's a thread that examines why McCain and the US are toothless...

...when it comes to Iran. See here, from today.

PB

[Deja Q]

67. LOL - and McCain supports offshoring too.

Let him bellow. Unless America can take care of its own infrastructure, it shouldn't be so aggressive.

[sweetheart]

79. ha ha ha... powerless gasbag

The new generation of both russia and china view mccain as
a mummy from the coffin of the cold war, bumping about in
the sunlight looking for a victem.

[fujiyama]

81. Anyone see last night's SNL?

It had a cartoon of McCain as the Martin Sheen character from Apocalypse Now.

McCain has lost it. He sold out his only family for God's sake. What a scummy guy. And now he's issuing threats to other nations?

[Tight_rope]

86. Lets see....

The US owes China so much that they own almost whole states. And we are trying to bully them around.

And didn't Russia tell the Bush to go to hell a couple of weeks ago, that they had struck a deal with Iran to build nuclear weapons on Russian land for Iran.

It seems to me that nobody gives a shit what Bush and company are saying. And rightfully so.

[ShockediSay]

89. So what about McCain whomping Hilary in the polls?? ?n/t

[Roland99]

90. Just like they damaged their reputation by being stubborn on Iraq

Go fuck yourself, John.

[classysassy]

93. A stooge

for the shrub.

[Generator]

94. Let's bomb them too!

I'm mean WE CAN, you know. We are the greatest country on earth!

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE...I love the smell of impotent Republicans in the morning. }(