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Roon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:08 AM Original message |
Tour de France winner Landis gives positive drug test, team says. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. What an idiot... |
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bigscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. why are you so convinced of Lance |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Because it seems... |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Agreed |
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TlalocW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
36. The science is always having to play catch-up |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. or "I always ride clean" |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
83. Either way he's the world's best at what he does. nt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:25 AM Response to Reply #8 |
26. "Officials have little trouble catching cheaters..." |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. My understanding however.. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. There's no need to use epogen when you can just transfuse a unit or two |
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acmejack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #8 |
48. Absolutely agree! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. he's probably been clean post-cancer |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. He is the most tested athlete ever |
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SensibleAmerican (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
85. Because he tested clean |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
27. I hear that steroids are used to help cancer pt's retain muscle mass |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. interesting ethical question |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. In baseball a lot of folks have "caught" ADD |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. they are indeed used for this purpose |
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jakefrep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #27 |
88. I have absolutely no doubt... |
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newscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. There is no way Lance would have won even one tour clean. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Of course he could have -- I don't believe all of them are doping |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. If they all were doping, it'd be a level field. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Look... |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. I don't know if he was or not, but... |
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gasperc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. the guys amish and has a bad hip |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Mennonite - Simulant |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. He's Mennonite, not Amish (what does that have to do with anything? |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. Is this the Mennonite guy? |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. yes he's Mennonite |
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President Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
87. ...and his dad is a card-carrying repubican |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. Read it was a stimulant |
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unda cova brutha (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
9. and the world opinion of amerika slips more |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:16 AM Original message |
Slow down there...don't forget that a WHOLE TON of them got booted before |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
14. That won't matter |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I know. I'm currently in Paris and if anyone mentions it then I have two |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. They'll probably shrug it off |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. That's true. I doubt anyone will say anything. It doesn't seem like that |
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Nimrod2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Yes, plus dicredits Lance Armstrong ??? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
22. a whole bunch |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It wasn't Spanish racers that got busted. The Spanish led the |
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Show_Me _The_Truth (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Come on |
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AndrewJacksonFaction (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
11. Direct link. |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. So it was doping then |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
13. Cheated to win? How presidential of him. NT |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
15. Say it ain't so, Floyd |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. Testosterone?? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Maybe his defense will be a variant of Mike Tyson's defense? |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:22 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Evidence of Steroids |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
74. Ben Johnson will die of Liver Cancer |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Holy mackerel |
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sueragingroz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:24 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. It wasn't |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. could it be a cortosteriod |
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MallRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
51. A corticosteroid wouldn't light up in this test. |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I'm not a biochemist but the following article disagrees with you |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. Actually, it's testosterone |
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Ravenseye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Well this article makes it sound like it's not Landis |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. The article says it's not him, and the banner says it is |
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A HERETIC I AM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Landis did not ride for a US team. He rode for a Swiss team |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Phonak Cycling server is crashed |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. I got on to a mirror server or something |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. Did he have to drop after every stage? |
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gauguin57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
38. I live in the county Floyd is originally from. There are banners all over |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Are there any role models anymore? |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. . |
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Ryano42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. Just saying... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
44. I thought his recovery was suspicious |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
46. I don't know what to believe about anything these days. |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
52. following lance's example? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. LInk to evidence of Armstrong illegal doping? n/t |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. He has avascular necrosis of his hip and is on numerous drugs |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
54. Sad |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for him to cheat |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. . |
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
56. More on this |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. They must have used French men as a standard for testosterone levels |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:10 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. . |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Americans should be banned from the Tour |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Never mind |
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Flagg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. why don't just you stop the French are pussies/coward "jokes" |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
59. Hey are the medical conditions that can cause high testosterone? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
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Hav (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. . |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. As AC/DC said "I've got big balls" |
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stop the bleeding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
75. FLOYD'S STATEMENT |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. we'll see what happens |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. . |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. And you do learn something new every day |
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madmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
78. so much for that feel good story |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
81. No wrongdoing has yet been proven |
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harpboy_ak (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
84. it's the RATIO of testosterone to another hormone |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
90. More Coverage... |
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