Phone 'poll' forces Munsil to reveal premarital sex

[Judi Lynn]

Phone 'poll' forces Munsil to reveal premarital sex
By Howard Fischer
Capitol Media Services
Tucson, Arizona | Published: 09.03.2006

PHOENIX — A "push poll" attacking Republican gubernatorial hopeful Len Munsil has forced the candidate, who has lobbied on moral issues for more than a decade, to admit he and his wife, Tracy, conceived a child before they were married.

In a statement late Friday, Munsil conceded the couple's oldest son was conceived after they were engaged but before they were married 20 years ago. "We regret the timing of our son's conception, but we have never regretted the outcome," Munsil said.

Munsil founded and ran the Center for Arizona Policy, an organization that lobbied for "restoring traditional moral principles" and has as one of its goals the support of school programs that promote sexual abstinence before marriage.

He was a key architect of a measure on the November ballot to reserve marriage and its benefits solely for those of the opposite sex.
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http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/145008

[acmavm]

1. Typical.

[rocktivity]

2. You could have made that work FOR you, you numbskulls!

You could have used YOURSELVES as an example of why pre-marital six is a bad idea! Now you look like a couple of hypocrites who would lie about anything!

:headbang:
rocknation

[Rose Siding]

3. Oh, that's rich.

Hateful hypocrite

[krispos42]

4. Typical GOP plan: Keep pushing what is proven does not work

Because at least that way you have the "moral high ground"

[MADem]

5. The GOP motto really is: Do as I say, not as I do. NT

[izzie]

6. Funny

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[Earth_First]

7. My question, which the article does little to answer...

is who was behind the push polling.

[Judi Lynn]

8. Hmmmm. I did a quick search, found this, which might point somewhere......

Abstinence backer Munsil says he had sex while single

Staff and wire reports
Sept. 2, 2006 12:00 AM

~snip~
The couple released the statement in reaction to a question included in a "push poll" that two Republican campaigns said was conducted Friday by an unknown person or organization.

A push poll is a negative campaign tactic that involves asking questions designed to weaken support for one candidate or build up support for another.

Munsil's campaign consultant, Sean Noble, said Munsil would ask the state Attorney General's Office to investigate. State law requires that campaign material include a disclosure of its source.

Noble also said the Munsil campaign would file for funds from Arizona's Citizens Clean Elections Commission that matched the cost to conduct the illegal push poll.

Another Republican gubernatorial candidate, Don Goldwater, said he was concerned that his campaign might erroneously be linked to the push poll because it reportedly included a question favorable to Goldwater.

"We have absolutely no connection with this. This is nothing we would do," Goldwater said.
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http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0902munsil0902.html



Munsil and family, and Don Goldwater

[msongs]

9. out of control heterosexual breeding here

evidently this man and his wife have never heard of sharing the resources of the planet in a judicious manner.

he is part of the problem, not part of the solution.


Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

[HuffleClaw]

11. holy fertile myrtle batman

that guy needs to be snipped. i suppose he's one of those jim dugger 'quiverful' types? and his wife a good little prairie muffin?

[yardwork]

12. Push polling is a typical Republican trick, used for decades in NC

Elizabeth Dole used push polls to win her senatorial campaign in 2000. I received one in my home (a nasty thing, full of blatant lies about Democrats) and complained to the state board of elections, but got no where.

Jesse Helms used them - it's possible his people invented push polls.

W used a push poll against McCain in SC in 2000.

I've never heard of a Democrat using a pull poll, and I hope I never do.

[JerseygirlCT]

13. Yes, mine too. I don't like this stuff, no matter who is the target. nt

[daleo]

10. I understand the desire to point out hypocrites

But focusing on the issue of his first son's conception seems awfully sleazy. It is no surprise that it is fellow Republicans doing this.

"Munsil founded and ran the Center for Arizona Policy, an organization that lobbied for "restoring traditional moral principles" and has as one of its goals the support of school programs that promote sexual abstinence before marriage."

Those who live in glass houses...

[momster]

14. Those Republicans who live in glass houses....

seem to think you should be the one drawing your blinds. It's always them trying to save you from *their* regrets.

[daleo]

16. Yes, what you don't see them doing, won't hurt you.

I guess that's their operating theory. Unfortunately, it usually does hurt us.

[leesa]

20. It's nasty, but I think it needs to be done to these people. They need to

be driven back into their holes. Self-righteousness is an ugly thing. The trick is to protect their kid from their selfishness.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

15. I'm sorry for the kid

This has to be pretty humiliating for him. Pity he couldn't pick his parents.

[Orangepeel]

17. apparently, he's 20

something like this wouldn't have bothered me when I was 20 -- well, the "conceived before wedlock" part wouldn't have bothered me. My father being a right wing, hypocritical, holier-than-thou asshole would have bothered me at any age.

[xchrom]

18. once again -- it's not his penis or his wife's vagina he's concerned

about -- it's everybody else's.

he is above concern about sexual behavior -- because he is better than everybody else.

[leesa]

19. Well, he asked for it. Hope it does him in.

[rdmtimp]

21. It's a moot point anyway because...

Janet Napolitano (Dem incumbent) will cruise in November.
This sounds like a last minute tactic for the primary (Sep. 12.)

:popcorn:

[KingFlorez]

22. Now the Freeper types will call him a sinner

The problem isn't that he had a child outside marriage, it's that he was a hypocrite and preached to others about it.

[Ken Burch]

26. Actually, religious right types are quite tolerant about hypocrisy

in THEIR ranks.

I believe Gamblin' Bill Bennett once said "hypocrisy is better than no leadership at all" or something close to that.

Plus, this gives the guy the chance to do the "prodigal son tearfully comes home to Jaysus" scene that those people so dearly love to stage over and over again, sometimes over and over with the same conservasinner.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

23. do as I say, not as I do. 'Cause I know best. Jesus tole me so.

when will people get fed up with their hippo-critical crap? Or is it elephantine by now?

[timtom]

24. I'm having a hard time with this one.

I'm sorry. I despise republicans as much, if not more than, the next person, but this is really lame.

Hypocrisy is hard-coded into being a republican.

Taking away his political credentials, however, it is apparent that the intent was marriage, a marriage that has seemingly turned out well.

For whoever I am in this world, I declare this to be a non-issue.

[lakeguy]

27. agreed. however, this guy shouldn't be making it an issue for other

people, but he is.

[samsingh]

25. i hate hypocracy