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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:15 AM
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Ahmadinejad seeks college teachers purge
TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Tuesday for a purge of liberal and secular teachers from the country's universities, urging students to return to 1980s-style radicalism.

"Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a meeting with a group of students.

Ahmadinejad complained that reforms in the country's universities were difficult to accomplish and that the educational system had been affected by secularism for the last 150 years. But, he added: "Such a change has begun."

The president, in his role as head of the country's Council of Cultural Revolution, does have the authority to make such changes. But his comments Tuesday seemed designed more to encourage hard-line students to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060905/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_university_purge
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:19 AM
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1. Ranting about purging Liberal and Secular teachers from the school system?
How is this guy different from Dubya again?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:06 AM
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14. One Difference
It's also true that the rubber-stamp Iranian legislature is matched by the rubber-stamp US legislature, including the Brave Sir Robin Dems.

However, the US has a functioning and independent judiciary - Iran does not.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:30 AM
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16. Yeah, but they are working their little hearts out trying to get rid of
that too.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:20 AM
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2. Lynne Cheney, as Reagan's Secretary of Education, would approve.
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neoblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:24 AM
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3. Just as our own Republicans would like...
to take the country backwards in time by at least 100 years... Ahmadinejad and his master wants to take the whole Islamic world backwards in time (far more than 100 years though). The first step? Banish all this rational, modern liberal/secular thinking.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:29 AM
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4. More and more they seem reflections of one another...
Fundamentalists have more in common with one another than with the rest of us.

Go figure.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:32 AM
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5. Translate the rantings of David Horowitz and half of the GOP into Iranian
and you have the speeches of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad word for word.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:07 AM
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20. Thinkin that may be part of the method to Ahmadinejad's madness
Show, by example, just how radical the American Junta is.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:52 AM
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24. Indeed, well struck.
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Torgo Johnson Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:42 AM
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6. Sounds just like David Horowitz...
Lets do a little paraphrasing, shall we...

Conservative writer David Horowitz called Tuesday for a purge of liberal and secular teachers from the country's universities, urging students to return to 1980s-style Reaganism.

"Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," Newsmax.com quoted Horowitz as saying during a meeting with a group of students.

Horowitz complained that reforms in the country's universities were difficult to accomplish and that the educational system had been affected by secularism for the last 40 years. But, he added: "Such a change has begun."

Horowitz,as founder of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, does not have the authority to make such changes. But his good friend Lynne Cheney is the wife of the Vice President of the United States, and President Bush has also been known to lap up Horowitz's comments much like a thirsty dog does to a bowl of water. The comments seemed designed more to encourage chickenhawks and other brain-dead right wing mouthpieces to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:55 AM
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8. Someone on TV described him as "in your face and cocky"
and I thought.......hmmmmmmmmmmm...sounds like shrub.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:40 AM
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10. Great minds think alike BS ...
first thought in my mind.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:37 AM
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50. The difference...
"The president, in his role as head of the country's Council of Cultural Revolution, does have the authority to make such changes. But his comments Tuesday seemed designed more to encourage hard-line students to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers."

As opposed to your "rewrite: "Horowitz,as founder of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture, does not have the authority to make such changes. But his good friend Lynne Cheney is the wife of the Vice President of the United States, and President Bush has also been known to lap up Horowitz's comments much like a thirsty dog does to a bowl of water. The comments seemed designed more to encourage chickenhawks and other brain-dead right wing mouthpieces to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers."

The rest is speculation, much like the article itself.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 05:49 AM
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7. Sounds just like Adolf Hitler.
"Cleansing" the universities of those who think 'incorrectly.'
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:14 AM
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9. Hell, sounds just like Conservative Republicans
I hear all the time from the Repukes how 'liberal' professors are warping the minds of our youth with all their talk of tolerance and understanding of those different from us.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:42 AM
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11. But But But...
Didn't Mike Wallace say he was an intelligent, charming, and rational man?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:05 AM
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12. Iranian president wants to purge profs
Sounds like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a lot in common with those running our country.

It's all the "libruls" fault.

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Iranian president wants to purge profs
By NASSER KARIMI 20 minutes ago

Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Tuesday for a purge of liberal and secular teachers from the country's universities, urging students to return to 1980s-style radicalism.

"Today, students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted Ahmadinejad as saying during a meeting with a group of students.

Ahmadinejad complained that reforms in the country's universities were difficult to accomplish and that the educational system had been affected by secularism for the last 150 years. But, he added: "Such a change has begun."

The president, in his role as head of the country's Council of Cultural Revolution, does have the authority to make such changes. But his comments Tuesday seemed designed more to encourage hard-line students to begin a pressure campaign on their own, thus forcing universities to oust the teachers.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060905/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_university_purge
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:05 AM
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13. We have now found a perfect mirror for Cuckoo Bannanas!
lol
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independentpiney Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:29 AM
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15. i've always felt he's a strong argument for instant karma n/t
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:52 AM
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17. This is almost funny
in a way that sometimes you have to see the absolute ridiculousness in real world events to deal with it at all.

So let's see in the post WWII years we fought the "Cold War" against the "Godless Commies" and reacted in part by hyping our "Godliness" - adding "In God We trust" on our money etc...

So now we're fighting religious extremists and Iran seems to be the poster child for them so when will we start hyping and Embracing our "Godlessness"?

Seriously though - what f'ing silliness. The right wingers have been crying for the same thing for years...let's just drop the pretense and start fighting over which end to crack a hard boiled egg already.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:34 AM
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18. I swear, I am really starting to disbelieve all this negative propaganda.
I am smelling Bush's breath and heavy-handedness more and more in these articles.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:45 AM
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19. Sounds like the Republican leadership except Muslim, not Christian. (nt)
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:10 AM
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21. He must have just read Horowitz book
Why is it the creepiest things this guy does sounds just like the Bushies?

Even that fake story on making Jews wear identifying clothing, if you changed "Jew" to "Muslim" or "illegal immigrant" you could imagine Rush Limbaugh or someone on Fox actually saying that.
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:27 PM
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41. Because Ahmadinejad is their ideological counter-part
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 09:28 PM by Ignacio Upton
The only difference is that he's Muslim, and that he wants to turn the clock back to the Middle Ages, where as the Bushies just want to turn it back to the Guilded Age. I nominate Ahmadinejad for a special international edition of the Top 10 Conservative Idiots.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:16 AM
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22. the cleansing of the intellectuals
is always a bad sign. Look for a huge wave of emigrants from Iran to other parts of the world.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:16 AM
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23. Someone should do an Ahmadinejad or Bush quiz
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 10:16 AM by yurbud
Problem is, Ahmadinejad translated from Iranian would be more grammatically correct than Bush (unless he was also translated):

"We cannot wait for the mafeance of totalrotarian regimes to attack us between our shores while our pants are down, which is a way of saying 'by surprise.'"
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:57 AM
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25. It is almost like he wants to get bombed. He is a nut. I fail to see now
acting like a nut will serve him. But somehow he thinks it will. I guess it is the preverbial..appealing to your base and tryiing to bring out the baser instincts in your base... a strategy he learnt from the * WH.

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:40 PM
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30. Yes, I think you have the right explanation. "Firing up the base"...
...is all this guy really has.
He had VERY low poll numbers, no one considered him
a serious candidate...until B*sh statred the saber-rattling
against Iran, and he started with the mirror-image tough guy
routine in response.

All he really has is rhetoric about the USA boogeyman;
without that he's got NUTHIN. And he doesn't dare stop now,
lest the Iranian public take notice of that fact.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:19 PM
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38. Lots of people are saying the two of them, * and Iran leader are acting
alike and appealing to their base.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:25 PM
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26. Wow, that worked so well for China in the '60s.
:sarcasm:

He even calls it the the Council of Cultural Revolution too: a nice touch.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:35 PM
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27. Not news...old news only circulating for propaganda
purposes...

At the same time WE are firing and gagging our own "liberal" educators every stinking day.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:51 PM
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34. so he doesn't want to purge the profs?
:shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:37 PM
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28. Is Ahmadinejad throwing Bush a bone?
Just another thing Ahmadinejad agrees with the RNC on.
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dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:39 PM
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29. Sounds like the right-wing whacko-fringe on the radio. N/T
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OregonDem Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:44 PM
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31. This article is also posted in Freeperville
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 02:47 PM by OregonDem
Half of the freepers are cheering for Ahmadinejad, the other half are like "When they say liberal they actually mean conservative". Ha ha they're so stupid they don't realize he's of of their own.

Lets see he's a warmonger, likes nukes, hates a liberal education, believes that religion and state should not be separated, hates gays, hates rights for women, and hates the UN.

Sound familiar freepers? Hes one of YOURS! Suck on it!
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:49 PM
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33. Yet people on DU defend him. n/t
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OregonDem Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:02 PM
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35. Yes it sad that some people so blindly support anything
that opposes Bush that they will side with Chavez, and Ahmadinejad. Although it is true that Bush's foreign policy blunders have created a lot of these problems, we should speak with one voice against all forms of tyranny.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 02:48 PM
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32. That country should be allowed to develop nuclear technology...
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 02:49 PM by India3
Right guys? Guys????
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OregonDem Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:17 PM
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36. I agree they shouldn't have them but how do you suppose
that we should go about it?
We don't have the military might to move against them since we are tied down in Iraq. If we put economic sanctions on them they will retaliate and we will have the 1970's oil crisis again, and they will only become more isolated from the world. They also seem to be ignoring our diplomatic efforts. What really is our options with Iran?
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:41 PM
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37. Get Russia and China to pull their heads out of their
greedy asses and recognize the situation for what it is. They're pretty much the last two refusing to impose sanctions because of Iranian Oil that they've been so happy to suck up the last couple decades. We'll probably have to cut a trade/energy deal with them, but it would be worth it to avoid armed conflict with a country full of suicide bombers. I don't want sanctions either, but that's the more realistic choice.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:33 AM
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51. Your post is complete nonsense. Very few countries favor sanctions
1. Russia does not buy Iranian oil.

2. Russia and China are not the last two refusing sanctions. Russia has said it is open to sanctions but they must not include force. China would have to be insane to approve sanctions against a friendly trade and security partner.

3. The only other countries who have so far spoken up in favour of possible sanctions are the US, UK, France and Germany. Germany would take a terrible hit, losing 10,000 jobs, so I doubt that they'll go along in the end.

4. I have seen no indication that trading partners like Italy, India, Pakistan, the other Stans or Japan support sanctions. So evidently you consider 5-6 countries to basically the whole world.

So as far as I can see, the following countries support sanctions:
US
UK
Israel
France
Germany
maybe Russia

The following countries have shown no indication of support for sanctions.
Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
Andorra
Angola
Antigua & Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
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Madagascar
Malawi
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Mexico
Micronesia
Moldova
Monaco
Mongolia
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Myanmar
Namibia
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New Zealand
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smb Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:38 PM
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39. Sounds Familiar....
Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called Tuesday for a purge of liberal and secular teachers from the country's universities

What's his FReeper screen name?
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:08 PM
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40. Heh. Sounds Like Over Here in Amerikkka
where peeps like MAnn Coulter and Rush Limpballs want to purge our academic institutions of commie, godless libruls.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:31 PM
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42. this man is evil as well as bush
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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43.  Ahmadinejad tells students to purge universities of liberal professors
The fiery Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, demanded yesterday that students denounce liberal professors, amid growing signals that a purge of regime opponents is gathering steam.

The radical leader told religious young people that he wanted to hear their anger.

"Students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities," he said.
advertisement

Employing the xenophobic rhetoric for which he has become renowned, Mr Ahmedinejad blamed outside powers for the problems in academia.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/09/06/wiran06.xml
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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44. The religious right wing universities like Bob Jones
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 01:06 AM by Erika
has already done that here. That is their dream for a theocratic America.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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45. Good point.
His demands sound an awful lot like those of David Horowitz and other knuckledraggers of his foul ilk.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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48. It doesn't just sound similar. It IS the same demand.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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46. Yes, students clearly know more than their professors.
That is the kind of logic that our own American-grown authoritarians/totalitarians like to use.
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Goat or Panic Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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47. Awwwww
David Horowitz has himself a buddy now.

"Students should shout at the president and ask why liberal and secular university lecturers are present in the universities."

American conservative nutjob or Iranian conservative nutjob? Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:28 AM
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49. Damn, Beat Me To It
Would've said, "I didn't know David Horowitz was the president of Iran." Ho well ;)
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