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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:28 AM
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Iran president urges West to follow God's path

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Iran president urges West to follow God's path

By Parisa Hafezi 33 minutes ago

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a devout Shi'ite Muslim, urged the West on Wednesday to turn to God's path and said failure to do would ensure they faced "no good fate."


Ahmadinejad, whose speeches are often peppered with religious and anti-Western remarks, also repeated a call for a live television debate with George W. Bush and said Iran was not a threat, rebuffing Tuesday's comments by the U.S. president.

Iran is embroiled in a nuclear stand-off with the West, which accuses Tehran of seeking to build atomic bombs, a charge Tehran dismisses. Ahmadinejad says Western powers use such accusations as a ploy to hold back Iran's development.

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"We requested a face-to-face debate (with Bush) to assess the problems of the world ... We will let humanity choose between us," he told a meeting on the 12th Muslim Shi'ite imam, who disappeared in the 10th century AD but who Shi'ites believe will return to implement Islamic justice.

"We oppose the fact that America and Britain intend to impose themselves on every other nation," he said.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:29 AM
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1. "Washington has said the call for a debate is a diversion."---I think
Jr should talk directly with him--or at least representatives from both countries should talk--
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:31 AM
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2. He sounds just like Pat Robertson.


Pat Robertson with nukes... makes ya think, don't it?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:33 AM
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3. I agree with Ahmadinejad last comment
"We oppose the fact that America and Britain intend to impose themselves on every other nation".


Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!
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Canadian_moderate Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:29 AM
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10. Islam has also imposed itself on manyh nations
and it sounds like Ahmedinejad is trying to impose his beliefs on the west.

It looks like he's also trying to purge Iran's universities of liberal and secularist professors.

Britain and America have been guilty of exporting their culture, though the youth of many of the world's nations seem eager enough to embrace it. I can't accuse modern-day Britain and America of imposing their religions on the world's couintries, other than maybe the independent missionary organizations.
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:53 PM
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19. as much as i hate religion
(and i don't use the word hate often) i must agree. "christians" haven't done near the damage to christianity that "muslims" have done to islam. and, yes, i know there are some good christians and muslims. but, i mean, when's the last time you saw a methodist behead a pentecostal?
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noneofmybusiness Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:36 AM
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4. Im a lot more scared of Bush than Ahmadinejad nt
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:45 AM
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5. asif somebody posesses that path
Lets let slide for a moment, the assertion that there is a profound force in the universe, a higher power,
a jehovah, an allah, tao, God, godhead, krishna, shiva, RAMA, Ram, Ra, awakeness itself without human self,
unconditional love... so lets say one of these profound awakenings really exists.

Then everyone would be already on god's path, as that beingness is universal, by all their own god teachings, that
'god is all'. If god is universal and has always existed, then it is all that exists now, and the appearance
of separation is a mirage of energy-constructs, that the mind misinterprets as outer phenomena, when in fact,
all is god, and there is no difference in soul, and any arrogance to presume outside that, is not god,
never will be god, on any continent, but rather the machinations of men abusing symbols they don't know.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:51 AM
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6. Well said....
:hi:

Namaste
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:55 AM
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7. Let the Debate between Bush and Ahmadinejad begin!
:popcorn:

I think it would be a fascinating discussion between two "heads of state" that clearly see their "path" as being the correct one.

Although something tells me that Ahmadinejad would come across as seeming surprisingly logical and making sense compared to George W. Bush.

Bush would fail miserably in a debate of any kind and in a debate with the leader of Iran would probably come across as a ranting lunatic....

I might disagree with both men on all issues if they debated, but you have to admit, the world sure would learn a lot about these two men and who and what they are all about?

:eyes:
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:19 PM
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13. no he wouldnt
come on man, Ahmadinejad is not a good guy simply because he opposes Bush.
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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:57 PM
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21. I don't think so
How reasonable would Ahmadinejad look saying Israel should be wiped out, that everyone should convert to Islam, that we should all bow to the might of Iran?

Bush might suck, but Ahmadinejad is an entirely different can of worms. Pretending that Ahmadinejad is a reasonable man is folly.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:00 AM
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8. If we could remove the neocons and religious extremists.........
from power, this planet might have a fighting chance at peace and prosperity for ALL.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:51 AM
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12. then we all can breathe a collective sigh of relief.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:01 AM
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9. I am SO sick of politicians invoking god
i don't care what god.... as soon as I hear the word
out of any politicians mouth, it's absolute proof they're
fakes and hucksters. Ugh it's abominable. Such crap.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:50 AM
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11. Which God?
So many to choose from.
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:40 PM
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15. Flying Spaghetti Monster. Ramen! n/t
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:38 PM
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14. So has the Pope. Does anyone take his advice, either?
So what!
...blather, blather...be good, follow god...blather, blather...(he turns around does opposite of own advice)...

welcome to being human...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:01 PM
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22. I was just thinking about the Pope.
I was wondering if everybody would be so up in arms over Iran if they were Christian. And then I remembered, oh, yeah. The Vatican.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:42 PM
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16. Jeebus...we've been time warped back to the 12th century. nt
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:51 PM
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17. Just what we need...
Zealots debating Zealots. Good times. My God can beat up your god.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:12 PM
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18. Atheists urge Iranian president to embrace reason
Atheists urge everyone to embrace reason. Atheists widely ignored.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:47 PM
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20. I Got News For Ya! Some Here Already Do!
They are called evangelicals.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:28 PM
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23. Stone women to death, kill our dissidents
purge our universities and mandate all women wear the veil. Forbid alcohol, any public show of affection. Women in iran are truly crushed..

No thanks..
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