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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:00 PM
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French, Americans would back strike on Iran: poll
Most French and Americans would support military action against Iran as a last resort if other means fail to stop it acquiring nuclear weapons, a major transatlantic opinion survey showed on Wednesday.

But among Germans polled, more said they would accept Iran getting the atom bomb rather than using force if diplomacy or sanctions do not work.

On Iran, 96 percent of Americans and 85 percent of Europeans see the possibility of Tehran becoming a nuclear power as a very important or somewhat important threat.

In France, the figure was 54 percent. In Germany, 40 percent supported military action but 46 percent said it would be better to let Iran acquire nuclear arms.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2400432&page=1
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:10 PM
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1. Does that mean that Germany is now the "new France"?
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 12:12 PM by no_hypocrisy
Somehow, I can't see the "working class" of Franklin Lakes boycotting their Mercedes, BMWs, and Audis . . .
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:17 PM
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2. O, I'm so angry at those damn peace-loving Krauts.
I'm going to crash my Mercedes into a tree just to show them!

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:48 PM
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16. no more Frankfurters and sauerkraut
It's hot dogs and liberty cabbage for me - God bless Murika
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filer Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:33 PM
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6. I'm skipping Oktoberfest in protest!
Should I boycott beer as well?
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:19 PM
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3. the important words here are "last resort"
Which means the poll, for determining the support of * and his gang of clowns attempt to drag the country into a wider conflict, is useless.

There are very few people who would not support military action as a last resort. How many support military action just because * wants to bomb Iran is a question they didn't ask.

Standard MSM push piece. All in line with new coke sorry new Iran push.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:48 PM
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4. But with Bush, the last resort is the first resort
These phony polls are part of the propaganda buildup to war.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 01:12 PM
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5. shady t6ype of poll where it tells numbers that are suspicious,
THen again, I believe very few polls because I have never been polled in my life past for a radio station.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:00 PM
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7. Or ask loaded questions that are hard to say "no" to
"Last resort" is a great example of that.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:16 PM
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8. Umm, last resort is coming up on us really fast.
Unless Iran backs off there will be a war with Iran and it will be the last resort before allowing them to have weapons they should never be allowed to have.

It's pretty much go time now. Iran shows no signs of backing down so it looks like the odds are we will face the 'last resort" scenario quicker than most here are willing to accept.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:17 PM
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13. What if the American population doesn't want another war?
Or the U.S. Congress for that matter. The people who are keen on the "last resort" solution may have to accept that - if the U.S. is still a democracy.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:16 AM
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22. Well I don't know? We will probably have a war anyway.
I don't think the government Rep or Dem gives a shit about what we think. They tell us what to think and most of us think it. I protested the Iraq war along with millions of others, no one in the government gave a shit, dem or rep. I don't see that changing in terms of Iran. I certainly think all of the potential Dem noms would most likely act to prevent Iran from gaining nukes.

Am I wrong?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:33 PM
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25. I am cynical enough to agree with a lot of that
I mean about politicians ignoring the will of the people. I would just note that eventually there will be a powerful backlash by the people, although it may take a huge disaster before it comes.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:33 PM
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15. Just curious, why should Iran never be allowed to have nukes?
Their neighbors have nukes, Israel and Pakistan.

Has Iran threatened to bomb us with their hypothetical nukes?

Who is threatening to bomb whom?

And what's with all this pseudo-militaristic war-mongering talk, anyway? I expect it from Washington, not from this board.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:13 AM
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21. Because they would use them.
And it would not be to defend themselves. They would use them to blackmail the world. I don't want to give them the chance.

Iran has threatened a lot of things, especially lately. You read enough DU to have noticed. I have.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 11:33 PM
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24. Can you provide an example
of the threats you claim Iran has made?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:49 PM
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17. LOL.
OK, Rambo. When's you're flight to Iran so you can start that guerilla war yourself?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:23 PM
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9. *as a LAST RESORT* was not emphasized ... Propaganda!
Remember our Dear Leader uses Military Action as a FIRST vice LAST resort.

We are in a world of shit and this is part of the 20 million dollar propaganda campaign to lead us through the Gates of Hell, i.e., bomb Iran. :grr: :nuke: :grr:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:28 PM
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10. Why Iran and not Pakistan?
Because Pakistan is a "friend"??
For how long?

Iraq was...

And I bet they didn't ask how high they'd be willing to see their heating bills increase also...

How much furniture R they willing to burn? :banghead:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:35 PM
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12. Why Iran and not North Korea?
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 02:34 PM
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11. Germans are used to having nukes pointed at them.
When will we get back on the nuclear non-proliferation track for EVERYBODY?
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:23 PM
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14. They should have asked if they favor $200 a barrel oil and $8 a gallon gas
Probably would have got a diffent answer...
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:52 PM
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18. "Last resort" means "'Cause Bush says so" to about 40%
of the United States.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:11 PM
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19. Jeez...the two words "last resort" are a little important...nt
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 05:14 PM
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20. Also in this poll:
"15 percent of Americans and 6 percent of Europeans see military action as the best way."

So the Bush agenda has the support of 15%.

That headline is quite a stretch.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 10:35 PM
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23. Let it not be said that hypocrisy is dead
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