Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Half Ton of Bomb Material Stored a Few Miles from the White House

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:25 PM
Original message
Half Ton of Bomb Material Stored a Few Miles from the White House

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/half_ton_of_bom.html

Half Ton of Bomb Material Stored a Few Miles from the White House

With virtually no questions asked, an undercover ABC News team was able to purchase a half ton of one of the world's most dangerous bomb-making materials and move it into a storage shed only a few miles from the White House and the U.S. Capitol.

Despite its use in the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building, there are still no federal laws restricting the purchase of ammonium nitrate, a chemical fertilizer, widely sold at farm supply stores.

...

The results of the ABC News investigation are "a wake-up call that the American people and the Congress needs," King said. A law requiring sellers to record purchases has passed King's committee and is awaiting a vote by the full House.

Brian Ross' full investigative report will air Monday on World News with Charles Gibson and as part of an ABC News Special Report on the fifth anniversary of 9/11. (l0pm EST/9pm Central)


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:30 PM
Response to Original message
1. Hmmmm - ABC. Sounds like a Rove plant to me.
I thought that SOOOOO quick and realized that there are alot of other people who will be questioning anything that comes out of ABC now too. Sounds like something the Whitehouse asked them to do. I would say any credibility that ABC had is gone now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
2. Like Clinton recommended?
and the GOP Congress refused?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:47 PM
Response to Original message
3. Rove bugged his own office
in 1986 and blamed it on his opponent. Just remember that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:51 PM
Response to Original message
4. "With virtually no questions asked,..."
what questioned were asked? yes the gop has blocked any restrictions on purchases. an ammonium nitrate/fuel oil "bomb" blew up the math building at the university of wisconsin in madison in the late 60`s killing one person. the bomber was tried , sentenced, and was released several years ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:53 PM
Response to Original message
5. I guess I don't understand the excitement.
One could easily fit a half-ton (20 50-pound sacks)
of ammonium nitrate in the back of a (say) Dodge
Caravan and park it on Constitution Avenue, a lot
closer than "a few miles" from the White House.
Why did it need to be located in a shed a few
miles away in order to be newsworthy?

Or maybe one could find that 8 ounces of "Semtex"
that the Massachusetts State Police lost yesterday
at Logan Airport.

To quote an old commercial, "where's the beef?"

Tesha
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #5
10. Or you could fill up a lotta gasoline tanks
Its ABC fearmongering again
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:55 PM
Response to Original message
6. So that's where...
...they are storing the extra Path to 9/11 DVD's...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
7. an ABC news team was able to purchase a cell phone
which can be made into a trigger for a bomb, and CARRY IT INTO THE WHITE HOUSE!

OMG, freak out!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
8. Brit Hume has the credibility of Bill O"Loofah Reilly. None
What a sell out he is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:26 PM
Response to Original message
9. "one of the world's most dangerous bomb-making materials!!"
"one of the world's most dangerous bomb-making materials!!"

Wait a minute..."a chemical fertilizer, widely sold at farm supply stores"

In another thread the WH is saying that enriched uranium was!!!!????

I am confused... :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Are there LEAST dangerous bomb making materials?
I mean a BOOM is a BOOM, right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Depends...
On whether you need to start a war, I suppose...

In this day and age, mixing GatorAde, hair dye and batteries becomes becomes the Manhatten Project!!

I figure those items are located within a half mile of the White House as well...in that mall across the street from Congress, for instance. :eyes:

But your right...a boom is a boom and wish there was a lot less of them...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sal316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 03:40 PM
Response to Original message
13. ANFO is an effective explosive, but...................
..........it takes a substantial donor charge to make it detonate. Most, if not all, AN based propellants are classified as DOT 4.1 Flammable solids. ANFO is classified a DOT 1.5D. By way of comparison, most fireworks you can by for home use are 1.4G, a more restrictive classification. Things like C4 and other military explosives are usually classified 1.1, the most restrictive.

Just a quick bit on classifications is below:

Explosive (class 1) 49 CFR 173.50
1.1 Explosives (with a mass explosion hazard)
1.2 Explosives (with a projection hazard)
1.3 Explosives (with predominately a fire hazard)
1.4 Explosives (with no significant blast hazard)
1.5 Very insensitive explosives: Blasting agents
1.6 Extremely insensitive detonating substances

Flammable Solid (class 4) 49 CFR 173.124
4.1 Flammable Solid - wetted class 1 explosives, self reactive materials or readily combustible solids
4.2 Spontaneously Combustible Material - Pyrophoric or self-heating materials
4.3 Dangerous when wet material - gives off flammable or toxic gas or becomes spontaneously combustible on contact with water


Anyone who wants to discuss explosives chemistry really should have to take a test first. I've been doing it 10 years and whenever I hear stuff like this it makes my head hurt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. Good info. Thanks.
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:32 PM
Response to Original message
14. Any disel fueled truck with a 120 gallon fuel tank driving within
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 09:33 PM by Thor_MN
a mile of the White House would qualify as half a ton of the other component of ANFO, whooptie-freaking-doo. This is news only because the GOP and their corporate sponsers are desperately seeking fear in any factor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mahatmakanejeeves Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 09:45 PM
Response to Original message
15. Not only that, but
you can buy bomb-making tools just a few miles from the White House and Capitol as well. I get mine at Sears - screwdrivers, wrenches, that sort of stuff. In fact, my house is a potential hotbed of making bombs. Just look at all those oscilloscopes, voltmeters, old cellphones.... Why, I could put some explosives in a Radio Flash wagon, tie them to the back of my bicycle, and be at the White House in an hour, easily. Truly, I am dangerous.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
16. banking on idiocy...
a friend with military training once demonstrated how easily "bombs" could be made, with some packets of non-dairy creamer. Anything that can burn and be dispersed in the air is a potential bomb.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:12 AM
Response to Original message
17. Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Same thing, different decade.

Everybody was freaking out about a dozen nuclear missile in Cuba, 150 miles from Florida! OH MY GOD!!!

Yet, it is 1200 miles from Washington, DC. And did nobody notice that Soviet ballistic-missile subs were all over the Atlantic? I'm pretty sure that plenty of Russian boomers spend lots of time within 1200 miles of DC. And New York, Boston, Miami, Baltimore, Phildelphia, Norfolk, Atlanta, etc.

And now we're getting this crap. <sigh> There is nothing stopping anybody from walking up to a crowded check-in line at a major international airport with a suitcase full of explosives and detonating it before any security checkpoint. There is nothing keeping terrorists from attacking the security screens at stadiums, either. A ton of people are pressed outside the Metrodome here in Minneapolis, waiting to have the cops glance in their shoulder bags.... <boom!> couple of dead cops and a dozen dead baseball fans.

If the terrorists can't get to the target, they will start attacking the defenses of the target. We can see that in Baghad now. How many police-recruitment lines have been hit by car bombs and suicide bombers?

If you really want to start pointing fingers at every potential terrorist threat, start growing a lot more hands.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
133724 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 03:47 AM
Response to Original message
18. Fretilizer???? BullShit?????
there is already enough Bull Shit @ 1600 Penn Ave to blow it up......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 08:03 AM
Response to Original message
19. Hey America. Do you feel safer NOW?
How effing stupid can they get? Don't answer that. I already know. :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 09:17 AM
Response to Original message
20. Is this Cheney's idea of blowing up Washington if election goes left?
Well....I wouldn't put it past him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
22. Its FERTILIZER. There are farms in Maryland and Virginia.
Fall is the season to fertilize. Perhaps they should just fertilize with the BS the GOP is spouting out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-09-06 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
23. ABC? They were once a respected broadcaster, right?
Edited on Sat Sep-09-06 02:25 PM by minnesota_liberal
Why would anyone believe their news stories anymore?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:13 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC