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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:35 AM
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Rumsfeld techniques rejected

http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060907-092652-8011r

Analysis: Rumsfeld techniques rejected

WASHINGTON, Sept. 11 (UPI) -- The U.S. military's new field manual on interrogation rejects three techniques that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld personally approved three years ago for use on prisoners taken in the war on terror.

The 384-page Field Manual on Human Intelligence Collector Operations describes 19 legal interrogation techniques, including 16 traditional approaches and three newer ones -- "good cop/bad cop," "false flag" and the separation of a prisoner from other prisoners for up to 30 days at a time.

Those three new techniques were approved by Rumsfeld during two rewrites of the interrogation rules since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

But the field manual, delayed for months because of legal wrangling, debate over appropriate techniques and classification issues, repudiates three interrogation methods Rumsfeld had approved: dietary manipulation, environmental manipulation, and sleep adjustment.

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:49 AM
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1. God, what depths we have stooped to.
HUMAN INTELLIGENCE COLLECTOR OPERATIONS.

What does this sound like to you? Look at how they trivialize such horrific things. Does this look like garbage collecting?

Here's more

DIETARY MANIPULATION = starvation, feeding of crap, garbage like in the Middle Ages

ENVIRONMENTAL MANIPULATION = God only knows.

SLEEP ADJUSTMENT = prisoners are deprived of sleep, for days at a time.

If we don't stop this shit, we're doomed.
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grizmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:49 AM
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3. Environmental manipulation = loud music, heat, cold, etc
Anything to make you uncomfortable
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:59 PM
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9. We're doomed. Sorry to be the one to inform you. If Dems
don't retake House and Senate in Nov, I'll be Canada-bound.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:08 AM
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2. oh rummy--you are so yesterday---It just has not hit you yet.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:13 PM
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4. Wow, "false flag" made it into the manual?
Doesn't that just say everything right there?
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djpalmer71 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:28 PM
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5. "false flag"?
Ok, consider me ignorant, but what is "false flag"?
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:51 PM
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7. as in "flying a false flag"
or acting like you're from a different country. Looks like even our soldiers don't want to admit they're Americans. lol....sigh.
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:33 PM
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6. Remember when we bombarded Manuel Noreiga with rock music
to drive him from a sanctuary in Panama City (after killing between 20 and 2000 civilians, depending on who you believe...like father like son)?

Who would you play to drive the terrorists (meaning DUHbya, the Smirk, and Rummie, of course) insane?

Cat Stevens? Dixie Chicks? "Imagine"?

Newsprism
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 02:54 PM
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8. LOL
Neal Young: Living With War
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 03:01 PM
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10. If I wanted to drive terrorsists insane, I'd play the Rumsfailed
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 03:01 PM by coalition_unwilling
haiku about epistemology. RummyDummy is the true heir to Descartes, je pense.
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