Costner Blasts Bush Assassination Film

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12092006/364/costner-blasts-bush-assassination-film.html

Kevin Costner has waded into the debate about controversial new movie Death Of A President, insisting director Gabriel Range failed to consider how George W Bush's family would react to scenes of the US President being assassinated....

He says, "It's awfully hard if you're his children, his wife, his mother, his dad; there's a certain thing we can't lose as human beings, which is empathy for maybe the hardest job in the world....

[havocmom]

1. After all the graphic suggestions she has made about DEMS & Liberals?

Funny girl that Ann.

[meegbear]

17. Kevin Costner NOT Ann Coulter

[havocmom]

20. Oops, more coffee at my table please

And I gotta start wearing my reading glasses at the computer x(

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

65. LOL!

I'm laughting with you. As far as you know...

[endarkenment]

2. Bad actor, and an idiot. nt.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Well, it is Hella Tasteless.

That said, who's Kevin Costner again? And why should I care about his opinions?

[951-Riverside]

Its "Hella" tasty and I will be seeing it one way or another

That said, Kevin Costner is pretty good actor who is greatly unappreciated.

[displacedtexan]

4. Yawn.

I thought Costner was busy filming "Waterworld II."

[tanyev]

8. The Guardian: Release date Sept 22, 2006.

Awfully convenient of him to wade into a controversial issue right now.

[Radio_Lady]

110. Sells newspapers.... and movie tickets.

[bluestateguy]

5. I have to say that this movie idea is rather creepy and unethical

I'm not sure what the producers hope to accomplish.

[Jed Dilligan]

11. To me, it sounds thrilling and entertaining.

I can't wait to see it. The promo shot looked fantastic--very real.

[951-Riverside]

12. The producers hope to entertain and make a butt load of money while at it

Hope that answers your question bluestateguy

[rodeodance]

21. its tasteless and I agree with Kevin C.

[TankLV]

98. The entire bush* family is tastless, but I digress...

It's creepy, even tho I vicariously would not loose sleep over it.

I would only be upset that they would have an underserved martre...

But it is a creepy premise and bordering on illegal to suggest what the movie does.

To quote from a poster below who said it a lot better than I could:

"bush* needs to be arrested and charged with crimes against humanity, but assassination is disgusting. I don't want our country doing it and I don't want it done to our leaders, however odious they may be.

bush* needs to be remembered as the worst president of all time not as an assassinated president. Assassinations lead to martyrdom...but, even beyond that, its just not the right thing to do. Dems need to be all about the right thing to do. If we want to picture him in bad shape, picture him in irons. No one should be murdered/assassinated....anywhere....ever."

[greccogirl]

71. I totally agree.

I also think it might be dangerous.

[qwertyMike]

78. Good

[katsy]

6. Kevin shouldn't worry.

Why would barbara b worry her beautiful mind over that?

[AndyA]

7. This wouldn't be the same

Kevin "let me masturbate while I get a massage" Costner, would it?

Obviously the man has no morals at all. Who gives a flip what the man thinks. Shut up, Kevin. You are a horny old has been actor. And you weren't that great of an actor, either.

[rock]

9. It's a documentary

per abc

[Seedersandleechers]

19. Is this the true "official version"

I sure hope so....

[BeyondGeography]

10. "The hardest job in the world." What a conceit that is

Why do dopey Americans like Costner constantly fall into the bigger/best/most trap? Like sitting atop the wealthiest economy and the strongest military is actually harder than feeding people in a Third World nation.

[Ohio Joe]

55. well, to be fair

I am unaware of any other job that ages a person. Look at any president before and after serving and it's really a striking difference. I think any job that does that to a person has to be pretty damn close to the hardest.

[Jim Stark]

62. no kidding! n/t

[saracat]

68. You don't seriously think Bush, who has taken more vacations than

other president in history "works"?You can't seriously think he would put any effort into this job. He is aging because of drug use, and alcohol, past or present.

[fudge stripe cookays]

96. Lincoln and Roosevelt?

Leading a country through war and depression? Yeah, that I'll buy.

Chimpy? No freaking way.

[Ohio Joe]

101. Well...

I was referring to the Presidency in general and he is not my President. Look at pictures real Presidents before and after, it really is pretty shocking how much they age.

[fudge stripe cookays]

103. And those were exactly the two I was referring to...

Lincoln and Roosevelt's photos show they aged DRAMATICALLY over the course of 4 or 5 years.

[Ohio Joe]

105. President Clinton as well

He was the first President that someone had pointed this out to me. I was just amazed to see the difference before and after.

[fudge stripe cookays]

106. Never really paid much attention.

I found Lincoln and Roosevelt far greater presidents. Sorry, but some of that Clinton brought on himself.

If he'd bothered to bring back the fucking Fairness Doctrine during his EIGHT YEARS in office, I'd have a lot more respect for him.

[Eclectic Man]

111. The Fairness Doctrine?

Yeah, that's surely at the top of everybody's list.

[raccoon]

109. George didn't HAVE to run.

Nor, for that matter, has anybody else.

Yes, it does age people rapidly.

[greccogirl]

72. Well I'd agree

with Costner, that it is the hardest job in the world. I sure as heck wouldn't want it!!! For no amount of money.............................

[Malikshah]

75. Hardest job in the world? Being his agent and finding him a gig..

Kevin-- STFU.

[Eurobabe]

13. Who TF cares what Kevin Costner thinks?

Kevin, just stick to doing bad movies. This is out of your realm of intelligence.

[Missy M]

14. Has Costner lost sight of the fact that it is just a movie.....

not real. Maybe being in the industry so long he believes all movies are truth. Bush's family has the choice of not seeing the movie. It is just a movie, fiction, nothing else.

[DrZeeLit]

91. In that regard, why should anyone be "upset" about TP to 9/ll?

The media has impact.
The question, to what end?
I agree w/Costner, who may not be any valid voice, but surely as an Academy Award winning director, and an actor who played a tough part in JFK, has some ideas on the subject.
He didn't call up the news and say, "Hey, print this quote of mine."
He was asked.
He answered.

When our side of the aisle becomes cavalier to the sensibilities we say we want from the other side, isn't it time to stop and think?
Yeah.
A movie about the assassination of a sitting president is probably not a classy idea.

Even though I truly hate Mr. Bush and all for which he stands, I do not wish him dead or even harmed.
I wish the wheels of true justice would work via the Constitution and due process.
I'd like to think we take the higher ground.

Always the idealist.
And no, doesn't mean I sleep better.

[Benhurst]

15. Costner doesn't seem to relate to the tens of thousands of people who

have actually relatives thanks to the murderous policies of the immoral idiot who stole his way into the White House.

"Hardest job in the world." What bullshit! The moron does nothing but raise campaign funds from his gangster cronies and vacation. Yeah, one hard job, indeed.

Costner is a idiot and a has-been. Shut up, Keven. Who cares what you think. Your fifteen minutes were up years ago.

[Lautremont]

16. I actually saw him saying this stuff,

and it kind of looked to me as though he was searching for negative things to say about the movie because he'd been asked to. "Um, well... I guess it might not be very nice for his kids to see it, or his folks... uh, or his wife..."

It was hardly a blast. More of a kind of wispy sigh.

I myself see nothing wrong with the idea behind this film.

[shain from kane]

18. Did he use his Robin Hood accent? n/t

[wtmusic]

28. You mean the one where Robin comes from Fullerton, CA?

I hope not :scared:

[stanwyck]

41. Oh, so THAT was the accent

I couldn't place it.

[President Jesus]

22. Costner's campaign contributions

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Kevin_Costner.php

[davepc]

27. 12 Democratic PAC /candidates -- 3 Republicans since 1990

[greccogirl]

73. It certainly looks like he supports

democrats.

[Jim Stark]

61. it's tasteless.

if a foreign country made a film like that but it was Clinton I'd have been plenty pissed.

[JI7]

85. Clinton is not Bush

Costner might have a point if it was almost anyone else. but considering it's Bush , well.........

[JI7]

86. he is still a dumbass

i heard he was a moron on Bill Maher's show also.

[Solly Mack]

23. phfffffftp

putui...hairball

[neoblues]

24. Costner forgets to consider...

the children, wives, mothers, fathers (dad's)... and grandmothers, grandfathers, brothers, sisters, and all the friends and relatives of... the tens of thousands of people in this world who, but for this pretend President and his cronies, would still be alive (I'm not even including the hundreds of thousands who've been maimed, crippled and/or had their lives and property violently destroyed; or, for that matter, those who've been intentionally tortured and imprisoned; much less those Americans who've had their careers destroyed or have been maligned and smeared by the republican dirty tricks & smears department).

It seems those people's wounds, direct or indirect, to themselves or their loved ones, should be considered as well. That's not to say that it's a noble human trait to cheer for the killing of another human being, but this film probably wouldn't have appeared at all if it didn't represent an undercurrent of opinion among at least some people. I'd even agree, it seems rather in bad taste, but I think I can understand it by recognizing the strong feelings, mostly negative, felt worldwide. Alas, I also find that I have very little sympathy indeed for members of the corrupt, perhaps even evil (as good a word as any) Bush Dynasty. Even the most sympathetic of the bunch, the daughters, who presumably would have love for their father are the spoiled offspring of power and privilege the likes of which few of us can even imagine. I don't wish them ill, but then again, it's just a movie--and one that unless they hold a masochistically morbid facination for, they'll never even see.

Much ado about not very much. I wonder why Costner of all people felt a need to express his views on the subject, though. Does he perhaps somehow believe his opinion of the film, by virtue of his "legendary" (in his own mind) vision for how the medium of motion pictures 'should' be done, merits special attention from the rest of the world? Is it "oh, the mighty oracle has spoken, all should heed his criticism"? Or was it just news because he's a rich and famous movie actor/director? The excerpt would seem to indicate it's an intentional use, by him, of his celebrity status--for what purpose is not clear. Did he feel a sense of empathy for the relatives of George Bush for having imagined how his own family would feel if someone had made a movie about a hit on himself? Is he in some unknown danger either in the real world or in the make-believe world of film? Has someone threatened to make a "KC" (Kevin Costner) movie in the vein of "JFK" or this Bush film (Death of a President)? Or is it subconsciously, a way to increase the notariety of the very film he criticizes (the pragmatic effect, whether or not consciously or subconsciously intended).

On a different note, surely no one (in their right mind) would want our President (no matter how he obtained the title) to be assasinated--considering how that would 'martyr' him for the cause of American Authoritarianism (AA--hey, I made a funny), and even worse, give him a profoundly more positive (forgiven) legacy and treatment in History. The man doesn't deserve either the sympathy or any boost to his memory.

Well, I'd say that was more than sufficient thought on this particular subject (hopefully it won't impinge upon my consciousness again).

[Straight Shooter]

25. I actually disagree with the premise of this movie

To me, it's crossing a line, despite my personal feelings towards bush. I would rather there be no movies about assassinations of any politician, especially someone who engenders such negative feelings everywhere he goes. It just agitates his followers and supports their prosecution complex. Let God do the dirty work.

However, it is also my belief that bush has brought this on himself. People will watch it for the vicarious thrill, just as thousands of women, who would never want to kill someone, privately cheered when Louise shot Harlan in the parking lot. (Thelma & Louise)

[951-Riverside]

26. Re: "Let God do the dirty work."

...So wouldnt the movie be part of his "dirty work"?

[Straight Shooter]

29. One could say that "God works in mysterious ways."

But the idea of assassination tends to lend an aura of martyrdom to a cult figure, such as bush. He is most definitely a cult figure. The last thing we need is for him to be a martyr. Too many of his followers are whackos.

I like to think that God has quite an imagination. After all, isn't He being given all the credits for "intelligent design"? ;)

[hlthe2b]

31. Straight Shooter, that'show I feel. n/t

[nodehopper]

53. we should all reserve judgement until we see the movie. from what I read

it sounds like it is not a sensationalist bone thrown to Bush-haters, but rather an indictment of the madness of extermist violence in general, and a demonstration of the road it leads down.

I found this review interesting.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157925009521&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630

[Straight Shooter]

56. Thank you for the link. That's a good source.

But check the date flashed on the screen: Oct. 19, 2007. This isn't current reality; it's a vision of all-too-plausible future rendered with urgency and eye-popping realism in Death of a President, a speculative documentary by British filmmaker Gabriel Range. The controversial film had its world premiere last night at the Toronto International Film Festival; additional screenings are scheduled for tomorrow and Friday.

Range has taken a contentious subject and used it to invite introspection about America, the media and society in general. It is neither coincidental nor insignificant that the film arrives for the fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, an event which prompted Range to take a closer look at the country he sometimes calls home and to question its values in times of war and unrest.

Incorporating newly shot and archival footage of Bush, along with insights gained from interviews with more than 100 current and former members of the Secret Service, the FBI, the White House and other authorities, Range has created a work that so effectively speaks the language of documentary film, it is hard watching it not to think that Bush has actually died.

The shooting occurs onscreen in a blur of tangled bodies, but writer-director Range and his co-writer Simon Finch resist the impulse to turn Bush's death into a freak show for voyeurs or payback porn for his political opponents.

I don't want to watch this movie, but I remain open to the opinions and debates of others.

[Sterling]

99. I don't get it? Why is the Prez so much better than

the rest of us. You can make any kind of snuff film you like but we are supposed to treat pols like Gods? I don't think so. It's an idea not an action. An idea I am sure is not original in any way. I am sure the film makers have no intention of killing anyone.

You guys need to get over your hero worship of the assholes who run the Government. They generally do more killing than any serial killer could dream of doing.
If you can make a movie about murder you can make one about the murder of a famous person. Especially a government official, I feel they should have less protection than normal citizens,IMHO. They work for us, I am tired of being asked to worship these losers.

[hlthe2b]

30. At face value, Costner's statement is not really something...

one can disagree with? I mean, I have to think of another family other than Bush* because they are just too dysfunctional.. But, God, I couldn't imagine seeing a film depicting the assasination of someone I loved. It didn't seem like a real excoriation of the film--just stating the obvious. Costner is a moderate, but mostly gives to Dems from what I can tell... He has kids and the locals (CO) tell me he comes across as a really good Dad... So, his comments seem sincere.

Ok, ok... that's the best Costner "defense" I can muster. Because, after all, he did do WATERWORLD, The Postman, Robinhood and so much more that shows his judgement is extremely variable. But, then again he did do Field of Dreams and Dances with Wolves-- two films I still enjoy. He's a narcissistic "movie star" (or thinks that he still is), after all.:shrug:

[rpannier]

33. And he did the Untouchables

with Sean Connery.
I don't hate Costner's politics. He donates almost exclusively to Dems -- he donated to Kerry in 04 and Gore in 00. His only puke donations are to former sen gramm (but I've heard they're friends)
I do think he's a bit of a whiner though.

[hlthe2b]

43. yup, you are right. He does give mostly to DEMS and

appears to be a moderate. So, I have corrected my assumptions. Seems many have the mistaken notion he is RW, when he is really a moderate and Dem-leaning.

And, yes, he was great in the Untouchables with Sean Connery... :toast: Hell, I even liked him in JFK..

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

49. I don't think his politics are particularly relevant here.

It appears that he's making a statement, as an actor, about movies in general, and this movie in particular. Whether or not you agree with it is up to you, but it doesn't strike me as a particularly political statement either way.

[Sugar Smack]

104. Doesn't seem like "blasting" either.

[Demeter]

32. Most Important, There Isn't Any Reason For Costner To Air His Opinion

He has no horse in this race, unless it's a very dark one.

[rpannier]

34. I'm not sure why you think he shouldn't offer his opinion

If someone who 'had no horse in the race' was saying how great the movie is, would you hold the same view on their opinion?
IMO, Costner has as much right to offer his opinion on this, or any other matter, as you or I do.

[Demeter]

37. You Are Assuming He's Actually Seen The Movie

[rpannier]

39. Actually I'm not

because he never said he's seen the movie. He's saying that from what he's heard about the movie it's inappropriate.

[tkmorris]

81. He was ASKED

It's not like he called a freakin press conference to air his opinion on the matter. I cannot understand why people feel the need to trash Costner the way they do. It's ridiculous.

[Algorem]

35. it's no Waterworld-like masterpiece.

he's all wet

[yurbud]

36. my problem with the premise of film is how little it would actually change

apart from elevating Bush from Tard King to Tard Martyr.

[NVMojo]

38. wouldn't want the Bush clan to see what it's like to be the Kennedy clan

...living in real fear instead of neocon "manufactured fear", now would we?

[eccles12]

40. Well, i agree with Mr. Costner. Not even Bush deserves this.

We would not want this if Kerry were President. I think it is way out of line and the Dems would be doing themselves a favor if they would scream as loudly about this film as they have about the Path to 9/11.

[underpants]

45. I agree too. He is right this is a bad idea that shows no taste or class.

[lakercub]

63. I agree as well.

Bush needs to be arrested and charged with crimes against humanity, but assassination is disgusting. I don't want our country doing it and I don't want it done to our leaders, however odious they may be.

Bush needs to be remembered as the worst president of all time not as an assassinated president. Assassinations lead to martyrdom...but, even beyond that, its just not the right thing to do. Dems need to be all about the right thing to do. If we want to picture him in bad shape, picture him in irons. No one should be murdered/assassinated....anywhere....ever.

[hogwyld]

69. Since when has *

either shown, or deserved taste or class?? He's responsible for more murders than anybody in the last 40 years. Besides, it's not real. Just an escape from reality.

[nodehopper]

89. please read this review, you may reconsider your opinion

the director was trying to do something very different than I think it may appear at first glance,when you just hear the main plot point.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157925009521&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630

[ItNerd4life]

54. How to lose friends and alienate people

I agree. This type of movie is something I would expect of a Republikkkan, not a Democrat.

[saracat]

66. Of course he deserves it and why the flip should any of us care about

how Bush's wife and family feel? He doesn't care about any of the families of the people he has sent to death! Get real.

[Frank Cannon]

87. I agree with Costner too. As much I can't fucking stand GW Bush...

I can't stomach the idea of his being killed, even if it's "just in a movie". I personally fantasize about the son of a bitch being thrown behind bars for the rest of his long, white-bearded life.

I don't get what the point of this movie is, other than to get all kinds of negative attention, and that's pretty low and disgusting.

[nodehopper]

88. please read this review...this is not a sensationalist feel-good movie

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1157925009521&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630

[Evergreen Emerald]

42. What did Mr. Costner say about the 9/11 film? I'll be he was just as

vocal.

:sarcasm:

[stanwyck]

46. Good point. Did the blatant lies and propaganda

offend him?
They should have.
A major network callously broadcasts on two evenings, during prime time, outright fabrications about the worst day in our history.
The writer used "composite" characters and imagined dialogue to damn Clinton while exalting Bush.
History was rewritten to the neocon tune.
And he chooses to lament about hurting the Bush family feelings?
Glad he has his priorities straight.

[TankLV]

100. Thank you. My thoughts exactly.

The bush* assination movie will be received by a SMALL group of people - the 911 crap was broadcast to the ENTIRE WORLD, not just the ENTIRE COUNTRY, IN PRIMETIME, OVER TWO DAYS...

Big Difference.

I'll be upset when it gets as widespread BROADCAST...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. What a load.

[RaleighNCDUer]

47. Having read thru the comments here I see one thing not addressed -

what is the premise of the movie? It is simply about an assassination plot, or is it about the repurcussions that the assassination of this particular president would engender? Certainly, we can all agree that there would be much different reactions, both within and outisde the government, if the president was Clinton or Bush. Is it about the hubris of this particular president, and the fact that his policies have pissed of most of the nations on earth, and that his 'war on terror' is seen by millions of Muslims as actually a war on Islam? Or is the assassination a chance thing, a Squeeky Frome, and emphasises the randomness of events? Is it about his martyrdom, to be used as a rallying cry by the far right, or does it suggest that it is justified?

There are so many directions this story could go. Does Costner, or anybody, have any idea how it is presented, or are people just going with their gut reactions?

[Exiled in America]

48. Ah... but starring in JFK was ok

Back...and to the left...back...and to the left...

[Selteri]

50. I personally feel the film is inappropriate, though....

I remember simimlar stunts being pulled in this country where the 'president' being killed bore a triking resembalance to Bill Clinton. This almost went a little too far in how graphic it was rtaken....


THAT BEING SAID - I still support the filmmaker and their right to ake it and speak their mind in a peaceful fashion to get a message across.

[xxqqqzme]

51. that headline is a bit heavy handed

I hardly consider what he said a 'blast' at the film.

[Tempest]

52. Has Costner ever apologized for Waterworld and The Postman?

Until then, he can just STFU.

[truebrit71]

57. You're going to give him a pass for The Bodyguard and For Love of the Game

Two more in his catalogue of absolutely bloody awful films....

[Tempest]

64. I learned my lesson and passed on those movies

I'm not surprised they were also POS.

Although he did redeem himself with Open Range. Or maybe Robert Duvall was the reason I liked it.

[ShortnFiery]

58. Ageeed!

Waterworld. :rofl:

Costner is a joke! :P

[TankLV]

102. I enjoyed waterworld - I wanted to see more of the underwater city

scenes...

It was a little too long, I've seen worse films - a LOT worse...

[MrPrax]

59. This jackass did The Bodyguard!!

Oh pleez...rather than tell us little people Kev -- why not take your principled stand and go tell your buddies in Hollywood and see what they say the idea of making movies based on whether 'someone' might react poorly or whether their feelings are hurt...

From a major player in a industry that wallows in bad taste, classlessness, historical inaccuracies and propaganda and he's trashing independent filmmakers? Probably doesn't like the competition

Shit the producers of U-571 didn't give a rat's ass what the British thought, NOR did Costner's producers ' give a damn about how the RCMP were depicted in the Untouchables, inspite of RCMP telling them.

Fuck you phony asshole...

[greccogirl]

74. Oh come on now, let's not forget

that the "Bodyguard" was Whitney Houston's last (or pretty much last) effort at a career before she blew it with drugs.

[mnhtnbb]

60. Empathy for Bush? He's never had an empathic day in his life.

[citizen snips]

67. Costner is not a good actor.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

70. I don't wish death to anyone.

However I wouldn't mind seeing junior's little dicky caught in a bear trap...the kind with the iron jaws. :woohoo:

[Thickasabrick]

76. Costner is a douchebag who supported Nader in the last

election. He should just shut the fuck up.

[Anakin Skywalker]

77. Shut Up, Costner! It's a Funny Movie!

That's all that matters. We all need a few laughs after enduring Shrub Co. for so many years now.

[leesa]

79. Awwww...poor Dubya's family. My heart breaks.

Bush has murdered tens of thousands of people needlessly. No sympathy for him or his greedy family.

[Trajan]

80. I have no fantasy of killing Bush .....

nor do I support such fantasies in others ....

Killing is wrong; dontcha know .....

Costner's argument is long winded, but I agree with the thrust ....

Bush will get his, and no one will have to lift a finger .... Natural fate will be a cruel mistress ....

BTW: Dances With Wolves .... fucking amazing .....

[pinniped]

82. Fuck them. * doesn't give a shit about the thousands of families....

he brought REAL death and destruction to.

Shithead Costner should demand * apologize.

It's a damm fictional movie.

[Radioactive]

83. This is exactly what the film makers want

They want people to be outraged and speak out against it, it just makes people curious and want to see it.

[JI7]

84. Iraq, Katrina, Afghanistan, 9/11

wonder what the people who lost loved ones there would say.

how he uses the dead of 9/11 to kill people in Iraq. how he ignores the mess in Afghanistan and what was happening during KAtrina.

[bleedingheart]

90. So he is saying that the Bush family is a sensitive bunch?? bwahahah

Anyone related to a US President knows that makes him/her as well as them targets and that is a reality. That is why they have guys with guns following them around.

This is a movie....relax.

[Miss Chybil]

92. As much as I don't like George Bush, et. al., I think this movie is in bad

taste.

[LibDemAlways]

93. Costner starred in JFK, a movie which certainly

re-opened old wounds for the Kennedy family and included multiple images of the actual assassination. I don't think Costner can comment on this new one without being completely hypocritical.

[0007]

94. Screw Kevin Costner!

[Hobarticus]

95. Thanks Kev. eom

[Strawman]

97. Can't judge a film I haven't seen

If it panders to the worst in people who oppose Bush to cash in, I don't like it. Unlike people like Jesse Helms, I take no delight in homicidal fantasies involving my political opponents.

But I suspect it is art that recognizes the polarization and unstable fault lines in American political culture today and asks what the hell would happen if.... I'm guessing they suspect it would be the premise for a real crackdown and further curtailing of civil liberties and freedoms.

But I don't know if that's the case either. I don't know what it's about. Nor do the people who are using this to milk the "poor Bush why do the liberal cultural elites hate him because he loves America?" card with Main Street America who also haven't seen it.

[warrens]

107. Empathy for a giggling murderer. HAHAHAHAHA

Even Tucker Carlson dislikes the punk personally, as do most people who have actually met the sniggering little killer.

"What's she going to say, "pweeze don't kiw me?" the smirking jerk told Carlson when he asked if he would speak to Karla Faye Tucker before she was executed.

There is nothing low enough that it is out of bounds when referring to this piece of human garbage. My apologies to garbage, which often serves some purpose in this world, if only to slop pigs.

[Beaverhausen]

108. He was in one of my all time favs, Bull Durham, and I also agree with him

I think this is just in poor taste and could be used by the right to try and perpetuate the story that we are all filled with hate. Ok we do hat bush but still...I don't really want to advocate his assasination. I want him to suffer in the Hague.