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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:50 PM
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Association Of Professors Defending BYU's Jones
http://kutv.com/local/local_story_255101109.html

Sep 12, 2006 8:09 am US/Mountain

Association Of Professors Defending BYU's Jones

PROVO A national organization is coming out in support of a BYU professor placed on paid leave for his controversial theories about the September 11th attacks.

The American Association of University Professors says the school should not have placed the physics professor on leave for statements made outside of the classroom.

Steven Jones has published a paper suggesting the World Trade Center towers fell because of pre-set demolition charges -- not just because they were struck by planes.

General secretary for the AAUP Roger Bowen says academic freedom also protects statements professors make outside the classroom.

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http://kutv.com/local/local_story_255101109.html
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:53 PM
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1. Right on!
We WILL NOT BE SILENCED! This is just another attempt by the powers that be to deflect from the TRUTH.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:55 PM
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2. Boo-yah!
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:37 PM
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3. good
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:46 PM
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4. INN World Report had an interview with Dr. Jim Fetzer where
Edited on Tue Sep-12-06 01:47 PM by davidwparker
this was brought up. He also gave his comments about the Democracy Now! debate between the Loose Change guys and Popular Mechanics editors.

See the 11 September shown here -> http://www.innworldreport.net

I couldn't see where to get just that interview, but the whole show is good. I saw it last night on FSTV on Dish Network.

on edit: correct spelling
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:54 PM
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5. I hope Jones sues his university and wins
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:35 PM
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6. Jones is an ass, but the AAUP should defend his rights
Academic freedom is for assholes as well as geniuses.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:52 PM
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7. I wonder whether an AAUP Censure motion
would carry much weight there. I don't know much about BYU's status -- is it fully private or partly state-controlled?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:55 PM
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8. 5th RECOMMEND!
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:11 PM
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9. I agree with the Association of Professors.
However, Steven Jones is still a fuckwit.
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ryanus Donating Member (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:49 PM
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10. Very good
Happy day. Props to my old prof.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:50 PM
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11. If conspiracy theories are so obviously and patently untrue...
then why don't they just give us the info that conclusively disproves them. Show us the flaws in this guy's physics, show us the confiscated films of the Pentagon "plane," show us the Kennedy autopsy. Show us the proof and squish these weirdos and their theories once and for all. If they won't show us, they're probably hiding something. Hmmm, things that make you go, "Hmmmm."
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:03 PM
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12. attacking the theorist rather than the theory ALWAYS makes me go...
...hmmmm.
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:09 PM
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13. indeed
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:22 PM
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14. Applauding Jones & the professors.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 06:56 PM
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15. AAUP is a toothless organization, not respected by many/most profs. n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 07:43 AM
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16. Sounds like they are defending his rights NOT his statements.
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charlottelouise Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 09:19 AM
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17. Which is as it should be
although I agree with the other posters who point out that the AAUP is largely irrelevant.
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