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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:02 PM Original message |
Animal rights activists sentenced (under terrorism laws) |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. Holy shit! WTF? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Just wait until the local Garden Clubs are designated Terrorists for |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. Terra, terra right here at home |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh Yeah... Real Scarey Animal Rights Activists |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 05:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. Glad the warrantless wiretaps caught these murderers |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. Animal "rights" activists are indeed scary, especially to us |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. Here is what you can go to jail for 4-5 years over: |
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warrens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. publish the names, addresses and phone numbers of their families on a Web |
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denverbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
37. Yet you can bomb an abortion clinic and not get charged with terrorism. |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Vandalizing cars should get you a penalty |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 09:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. They didn't vandalize anything. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Another Bushite corporate law has gone into effect. |
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TheMightyFavog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Yeah, Bushite, but not this Bush. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Congress was controlled by Democrats in 1992 |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's the Web site about the defendants |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Anyone know who the DA is who prosecuted them? |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 05:05 AM Response to Reply #18 |
79. I'll go looking for it today |
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TheMightyFavog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here's the law in question... |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. They'd have to prove acts in furtherance of the conspiracy |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
8. And yet . . . |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 05:09 AM Response to Reply #8 |
80. In western NY |
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halobeam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
9. paving the way to convict activism against big corps. |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 05:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
81. I think you have nailed it. . . n/t |
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kermujin (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. Animal rights activists sentenced (under terrorism laws) |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. I agree with the decision. You can protest but you cannot terrorize. |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. But those sentenced did not COMMIT these crimes |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. None of them were involved with that |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Bull its similar to that hit list of abortion doctors. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. The animal fascist are on the way. Bush is becoming un-glued. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. Downing Civil Liberties |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. NOW I feel much safer............ |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
15. Feingold warned of this---using the law for purposes other than for Terror |
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astonamous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
19. Websites with the names of Doctors who perform abortions... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #19 |
42. They were shut down in 2002 |
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astonamous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Thanks. n/t |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. I am an animal rights advocate, but |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
22. As ever, we should put the shoe on the other hand |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. There were reminders all over the website to keep actions legal |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Yes, but if the reminders had a metaphoric wink |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Laws already exist for vandalism, harassment, etc |
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Anakin Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. "Animal Enterprise Protection Act"? The name itself |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
27. These kids have done nothing compared to what |
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HuffleClaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. while RIGHT wing terror goes routinely unpunished |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-12-06 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
29. How can we help? Here thoughtful people are arrested while the |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. thoughful people? |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 07:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. why not test them on criminals instead? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. ... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. You need to look at Lefty Mom's sig line... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. That's a pretty stupid argument, IMHO. |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
62. That way lies Rump Of Skunk and Madness |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 01:47 AM Response to Reply #33 |
70. so you would rather test on humans than on people |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. So glad to hear that you have better things to do |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:55 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. No, they want them tested safely |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. EXACTLY! (n/t) |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Encourage people not to break this law |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. These three folks |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Certainly not any laws that will pass constitutional muster |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Aha, but on appeal |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Exactly. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Hee hee! |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 06:04 AM Response to Reply #60 |
82. Apparently a jury of their peers saw the evidence differently |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Yes, and juries never wrongly convict people. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 05:34 AM Response to Original message |
31. animal rights activists are terrorists? |
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peacebuzzard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
34. This stinks. Terrorist web designers and keyboarders. Is DU next? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
43. Animal Rights Advocates Given Prison Terms (NY Times) |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Are they going to do the same thing to people who harrass |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I think this is the same group that was convicted using Terrorist laws. |
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ehrnst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
47. But if they bomb an abortion clinic, they get bankruptcy protection... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
50. Meanwhile.... |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
51. the ALF and ELF and such related people are pretty crazy |
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savemefromdumbya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. they are not crazy |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. i have met many |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. No, you haven't. n/t |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
84. oh. i'm sorry. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-13-06 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
58. $1 Million in restitution? |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
69. Why does Pharma test on animals, they do use the shit?! |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. yes a man in my parish was in prison for rape for 15 years |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 02:17 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Animals do not use the shit, they do not need to be used... |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 02:21 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. That way lies Rump Of Skunk and Madness |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 02:23 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Animal Testing is NOT acceptable! |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 02:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Neither is testing on non-consenting humans. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. If your 'concented' to lethal injection...yes, by all means test on'em |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 04:40 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. The death penalty is also unethical, but one has naught to do with t'other |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 04:50 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Animals do not concent to dying for us...its horrible and barbaric. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
83. Even the SPLC calls them terroristic. Jail sounds right for these folks. |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-14-06 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
85. Cutting your grass will be a crime next... well... |
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