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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 04:34 AM
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U.S. vows to secure Baghdad (47 more dead bodies found on Sat)
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi police found 47 more bodies of death squad victims dumped in Baghdad overnight, they said on Saturday, after Washington said it was diverting troops from other parts of Iraq to secure the embattled capital.

The deaths brought the toll from such killings in the capital to nearly 180 in four days.

The U.S. military denied U.S. media reports that Iraq would dig a giant trench around the city in the next phase of a massive month-old security crackdown, but confirmed access will be tightened by forcing drivers to pass through checkpoints.

The military has acknowledged a "spike" in execution-style sectarian killings in the capital this week, but said violence has been reduced in the scattered neighborhoods it has targeted in "Operation Together Forward."

more; http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_dc
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 04:42 AM
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1. So they drag more troops into the Capital and leave the
country side free and unfettered for the militias to gain even more of a foothold and establish an alternative relationship for embattled citizens eager for the calm of the Saddam years...

They will use the Hezzbulah model and set up a shadow government that will dispence aid, medical service and provide security that the central government can't even begin to structure...

Yep, the Shi'ites are about to hit the fan...
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:21 AM
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2. According to the bbc "Most had been tortured"!!!
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 05:22 AM by Henny Penny
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5351398.stm


Interesting that this torturing and shooting spree should coincide with the month-old "security crackdown" is it not!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :puke: :grr: :grr: :grr:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 07:51 AM
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4. thats the point----The 'insurgents' are doing this to counter the crackdow
n.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:32 AM
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9. Ah yes.. the "insurgents"...
like the ones that had to be rescued from the police station in Basra?

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:10 AM
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5. I suppose those whacky Iraqis think torture is legal. Oh wait, so does
the bush** administration.

Never mind.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 11:08 AM
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13. Which makes me wonder who's doing the torturing and murdering.
Such a practice is, after all, an American tradition, going back to the mass-murder of the Pequots and the Narragansetts in the 1600s. More recently, there was the Phoenix Program.

Created by the CIA in Saigon in 1967, Phoenix was a program aimed at "neutralizing"—through assassination, kidnapping, and systematic torture—the civilian infrastructure that supported the Viet Cong insurgency in South Vietnam. It was a terrifying "final solution" that violated the Geneva Conventions and traditional American ideas of human morality.

I disagree with part of that last sentence, as I already suggested above.
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whatelseisnew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:36 PM
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14. Everyone should remember the Phoenix Program
Good reminder. Thanks for the link.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:52 PM
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16. And interesting timing for Bush's push to negate the Geneva conventions
that he claims are so 'vague' with regards to prisoner treatment, among other things. And the CIA is worried about being prosecuted too. Then all these tortured bodies show up....

Hope someone will talk.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 06:59 AM
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3. i thought they just did that?
:shrug: funny how this never seems to work out.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:17 AM
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6. 3 1/2 years ago.
:shrug:

I guess its been a bunch of bullshit ever since.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:50 AM
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11. ain't you right!
i was talking about that cordoning off neighborhoods and the sweeps they did a few weeks back.

it's extremely instructive to see that the u.s. has reached a stage where it cannot learn from it's mistakes.

a simple lesson like you cannot fight an asymmetrical war with an invading army.

why is it that our institutions have become so lacking in mental agility?

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:50 AM
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7. AFP Dozens of corpses found as US pledges more troops for Baghdad


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060916/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_060916121959

Dozens of corpses found as US pledges more troops for Baghdad

by Sabah Jerges 1 hour, 22 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Dozens of corpses were found across Baghdad, as Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki launched a fresh peace bid and the US pledged more troops to help to restore stability in the Iraqi capital.


Police said Saturday 35 bodies were recovered in the streets of the capital, bringing to more than 150 the number of people killed execution-style across the country in the past four days amid raging sectarian conflict between the newly empowered Shiite majority and the ousted Sunni Arab elite.

Maliki called on some 1,700 academics and civil rights activists gathered for a conference in the capital to back his efforts to stem the fighting through a national reconcilation plan.

"We should keep aside our differences to build bridges and
Iraq's civil society should work to implement a policy of concord," Maliki urged the audience in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone -- the seat of the Iraqi government and the US military headquarters.

He said the meeting was part of his national reconciliation plan aimed at restoring security and the only way to "defy terror."......
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 08:53 AM
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8. troops diverted from----Al-Anbar province to Baghdad.---



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060916/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_060916121959

.....In a bid to rein in the violence, which has raged alongside persistent anti-US attacks by Sunni Arab insurgents, the Unitd States military said it will divert some of the 30,000 troops in the restive Al-Anbar province to Baghdad.

"The main effort is Baghdad. And we must ensure that we weight the main effort," Lieutenant General Peter Chiarelli told reporters late Friday.

Without giving the actual numbers, Chiarelli, the number two US commander in Iraq, said the shift of troops will not affect operations in Anbar, where the military faces stiff challege from Sunni rebels and terror group Al-Qaeda.

Iraqi authorities, meanwhile, are planning to dig trenches around the capital to thwart the movement of rebels and death squads.

"We will surround the city with trenches," interior ministry spokesman Brigadier General Abdel Karim Khalaf told AFP on Friday.
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 09:44 AM
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10. and the nightmare just gets worse
can anyone not believe that GWBushit is a war criminal? He started this shit, just to prove his father's weakness as far as I can tell, and continues it beyond any reason. Our nefarious leader is insane, batshit crazy, and all the kings men are running around with their noses up his ass not willing to see the truth.
GWBushit is INSANE. The fucker is over the wall, gone, and it is to my utter astonishment that he still leads this country. Iraq is indeed in a civil war, despite the wet dreams of dumb and dumber shits. Baghdad is a mess; Bushits war is well and truly lost and gone, a joke. But the insane idiot is not going to admit it, not going to change his course. This is the very definition of insane to my humble opinion.
Impeach and Imprison NOW.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 10:30 AM
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12. No trench??????
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 10:31 AM by grytpype
How do they expect to win control of the capital if they don't dig a sixty-mile trench around it???

Sheesh!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 12:39 PM
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15. When you say "U.S." - you must mean The Generals who get their
Edited on Sat Sep-16-06 12:41 PM by ShortnFiery
orders on EXACTLY "what to say" from the Neo-Con civilian leadership at the Pentagon.

IMO, all the Generals with honor and integrity have resigned and retired by this "UGLY" point of this OCCUPATION, i.e., a budding civil war is thriving. :(

On Edit: That Ya-Hoo article is worthy of a one star rating. :grr:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:57 PM
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17. hmm. maybe they should call it "Operation Close Your Eyes and Wish It
Would All Go Away" and then they could claim some success.
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