NYT/AP: TV Ads Fail to Move Penn. Voters in Poll

[DeepModem Mom]

TV Ads Fail to Move Penn. Voters in Poll
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published: September 21, 2006

HARRISBURG, Pa. (AP) -- The front-runners in the race for Senate and governor maintained their leads as televised political advertising increased, a statewide poll released Thursday found.

For the Senate, Democratic challenger Bob Casey led incumbent Sen. Rick Santorum 45 percent to 38 percent among registered voters, according to the Keystone Poll from Franklin & Marshall College. The result was virtually unchanged from the pollsters' August survey.

Green Party candidate Carl Romanelli, whose candidacy is expected to help Santorum by drawing support from Casey, was supported by 5 percent. Twelve percent were undecided.

In the governor's race, Democratic incumbent Ed Rendell led Republican Lynn Swann 52 percent to 34 percent, compared with 53-34 percent in August. Fourteen percent were undecided....

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Santorum aired a spot featuring actors supposedly portraying four big donors to Casey's campaign meeting in a smoke-filled jail cell. The senator's campaign later conceded that none of the men had given money to Casey's Senate campaign and that two had contributed to Santorum's campaign, which donated the money to nonprofit groups....

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Pennsylvania-Elections.html

[Mark E. Smith]

1. Carl Romanelli ...

GOP spoof.

[Frances]

2. Why doesn't the national Green Party disown Romanelli?

He is the symbol of the corruption of the Green Party.

[Ignacio Upton]

3. Will Romenelli even be on the ballot?

What's going on with the legal battle over that?

[whalerider55]

6. i'll tell you why...

first, let me say that I am genetic democrat who is currently a green party member. i am also an elected green party member; twice elected to my local school committee.

i joined the greens because their agenda was consistent with mine, and was action-oriented, and contrasted with both dems and pugs in that regard.

having said that, I have long advocated that the party needs to start at the grass-roots level, in towns and communities, where relationships and community building matter and party affiliation is less important.

there is a designed split between the local green party and the one that exists on the national level. the national level is highly decentralized, and is designed not to create and dictate candidacies but to support efforts to get greens elected on a national level. the Nats don't pick'em, and they don't vet them.

locally, it seems to me that greens are very weakly organized, and aside from at keeping us in touch with one another, is not in the position to actively organize and support local greens running for office. they've have been completely uninvolved in my two campaigns; but i also have to say that my party affiliation has been unimportant in those races as well. ideas and relationships, and most importantly, transparency matter.

I contacted the national green political director over romanelli, complaining that romanelli was hurting us both nationally and locally, and should be repudiated. i told them that in effect, he had become the poster child for everything the greens stood against; he was taking corporate money to draw attention away from critical issues.

i was told that their role was to support; that they would have advised him not to take the money if he had asked them to, but he didn't ask.

when i told them in a secinnd e-mail that their response was inadequate, lacked integrity and would drive local greens like me out of the party, they sent back a thomas paine quote telling me that now was the time for patriots to hold true to the course that had been set.

so, sadly, I'm done with them. i'll get down to city hall next week and un-enroll; and inform the state people that it is because of the attitudes and practices at the national level that i'm checking out; that at the national level, they act just like my Rahm Emmanual, Liddy Dole, and the rest of the politcal lifers.

sheesh. another idealist with his tail between his legs.

whalerider

[JPZenger]

10. Green Will Probably be Knocked Off

The Dems (with the help of many volunteers) identified tens of thousands of names on the Green's petition that were invalid. The State Judge has given the Greenie a couple weeks to try to prove that the Democrats' evidence is inaccurate. If he can't, then he is off the ballot.

[bluestateguy]

5. The Red, oops, I mean Green Party

Ahem, cough!

[Demit]

4. Santorum's ad was atrocious. Really pond scummy. Glad he wasted his $.

[radfringe]

11. CASEY SHOULD take the ad

and run it "silently" in the back ground with a voice over..

Rick Santorum paid $x.xx to produce this attack ad. Rick Santorum paid $x.xx to actors to be in this attack ad. Rick Santorum paid $x.xx to air this attack ad.

Money well spent? Maybe not since none of the named persons have made contributions to my campaign, but two of them did make contributions totally $x.xx to Rick Santorum's campaigns.

If Rick Santorum is wasting his own money on false attack ads - how well do you think he's managing YOUR money in Washington?

[pinerow]

13. Great idea...you should foward it to the

Casey media folks...

[maxrandb]

7. Are you "effing" kidding me??!!

"Santorum aired a spot featuring actors supposedly portraying four big donors to Casey's campaign meeting in a smoke-filled jail cell. The senator's campaign later conceded that none of the men had given money to Casey's Senate campaign and that two had contributed to Santorum's campaign, which donated the money to nonprofit groups...."

We need to start running ads that show the republicans think Americans are dumbass, stupid, shit for brain morans".

Did Ricky really think the American people are that stupid? Why yes, it appears that he does.

[JPZenger]

9. Santorum: Guy Who Died 2 Yrs. Ago is Powerbroker Behind Casey

The New York Times completely missed the worst part of the Santorum campaign ad. It shows a smoke filled room of actors who are supposed to be corrupt power brokers who currently control Casey. The one guy has been DEAD for TWO YEARS.

Besides, anyone who knows Casey knows that, in the world of politics, he is a boy scout. Casey has never been accused of any corruption or unethical behavior. The one ethically-challenged Democrat who backed Casey in his past Governor campaign mainly did so because that politician was in a bitter feud against Ed Rendell, not because he thought he could control Casey.

[BootinUp]

8. So 5 percent are going to vote "None of the above"

Because thats what a throw away vote is, lets be honest. And Santorum one of the worst Senators in the country could go back for 6 years more as a result. That makes me ill just thinking about it.

[antonialee839]

12. Saint Ricky's smoke filled jail cell spot is about

to look like child's play, compared to the spot that is just about to drop on his
hypocritical ass. It's the one being used against Allen too, showing how they voted against body armor for our troops. If you've seen it, you know how powerful it is.