NBC: Bush and McCain reach deal on enemy combatant tribunals

[sabra]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

NBC: Bush and McCain reach deal on enemy combatant tribunals

update:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14941594/

Bush, McCain reach agreement on tribunal laws
Deal comes as House, Senate at odds over how to treat enemy combatants

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News

President Bush and Sen. John McCain have reached an agreement on legislation covering tribunals for enemy combatant suspects, NBC News reported Thursday.

Details on the deal were not immediately available.

The compromise comes amid a stalemate that has divided the House and Senate on the treatment of detainees. The two sides remained at odds this week over how to adhere to the 1949 Geneva Conventions and — simultaneously — give the CIA wide leeway to conduct interrogations.

[Monkeyman]

1. CNN is saying the same thing

[fooj]

2. Who here is surprised?

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

3. reach deal ?...Who Caved in??? the decider??

[geek tragedy]

5. McCain of course.

Remember the hug?

[tsuki]

12. What does McCain get this time, a big, wet one? nt

[fooj]

13. Last time he "compromised" he got a big, large

SIGNING STATEMENT #555 shoved right up this country's ass! Damn him.

[DinahMoeHum]

40. It's sad, believe me missy, when you get played for a sissy. . .

McCain was too kissy-kissy with Bush and it has cost him big time.

:evilfrown:

[oldtime dfl_er]

4. Will the headline read

McCain compromised on torture?

[VolcanoJen]

6. CNN just corrected the story... quoting an unnamed GOP official

The unnamed GOP official told CNN, "Reports that there's a deal between the President and Senator McCain are premature at best."

Interesting....

[tsuki]

7. Gee, ya think. /sarcasm

[ShortnFiery]

8. This is NOT good news!

Kiss your civil liberties good-bye. Whomever Dear Leader or his cabal label as "a terrorist" will be spirited off to secret prisons, tortured and not ever heard from again. :scared:

Sometimes I can't help but think all these Legislators are on the same page. They don't give a shit about the struggling American Wage Slave. :grr:

[Miss Chybil]

9. **Whistling**

I'm trying to keep from saying, "I told you so." It doesn't matter. We all knew it, anyway.

[bemildred]

10. And the Mighty Wurlitzer spins on ... nt

[VegasWolf]

11. Bush and McCain reach a deal? What about the Dems, oh right, Dems have no

balls and don't count. I need a liberal party that has kahones.

[pwb]

14. you can not blame the democrats

republicans refuse to even consider the democrats opinions. republicans are the majority and control everything. all democrats can do is vote nay. and they all will.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. They can filibuster.

And they had better.

[maddezmom]

15. BUSH AND MCCAIN REACH AGREEMENT ON TREATMENT OF SUSPECTED ENEMY COMBATANTS

Breaking news banner, will look for better link.

http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396

Bush, McCain reach agreement on tribunal laws

WASHINGTON - President Bush and Republican negotiators led by Sen. John McCain have reached an agreement on legislation covering tribunals for enemy combatant suspects, NBC News has learned.

Details on the deal were not immediately available, but Rep. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said it represented “very positive steps forward. Once everyone looks at it, we hope to come to an agreement.” He was meeting with McCain and Sens. Bill Frist and John Warner, according to NBC.

President Bush’s call for legislation has been deadlocked in an intraparty dispute, with Republican Sens. McCain, Graham and John Warner seeking a provision to make it clear that torture of suspects is barred.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14941594/

[sabra]

16. more here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2523398

[HereSince1628]

17. Man this is De Ja Vu all over again. I smell a signing statement

coming down the pike.

[Paulie]

20. Great minds think alike!

Same timestamps! :toast:

[Monkeyman]

23. Yep he does think he is above the law

[Paulie]

18. As Ronnie said...

De'ja vous all over again... McCain must own a lot of Astroglide stock.

[MasonJar]

19. Please let us know. ABC does not exist anymore as far as I am

concerned.

[maddezmom]

22. another link

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14941594/

[graywarrior]

21. Bush & McCain. Somehow that seems so.....oh, I dunno

[HuffleClaw]

24. exactly as predicted

a bullshit 'compromise'. what a horror.

[Breeze54]

25. Bush blinked first!!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/09/20/MNGEAL900E1.DTL

Bush reportedly gives in on redefining Geneva rules

White House, Senate GOP said to be working on clarifying interrogation tactics

Kate Zernike, New York Times

Wednesday, September 20, 2006

(09-20) 04:00 PDT Washington --

Seeking to reach a deal with Senate Republicans on the rules governing the interrogation of terror suspects, the White House has dropped its insistence on redefining the obligations of the United States under the Geneva Conventions, members of Congress and aides said Tuesday.

The new White House position, transmitted to Capitol Hill on Monday night, set off intensified negotiations between administration officials and a small group of Republican senators. The senators have blocked President Bush's original proposal for legislation to clarify what kinds of interrogation techniques are permissible and agree on trial procedures for suspected terrorists now in U.S. military custody.

The two sides were said to be exchanging proposals and counterproposals late Tuesday in a showdown that could have substantial ramifications for national security policy and the political climate heading toward election day.

The developments suggested that the White House had blinked first in its standoff with the Republicans, who include Sens. John Warner of Virginia, the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, and John McCain of Arizona, who was tortured as a prisoner of war in Vietnam. But few details of the offer were available, and it was not clear whether a compromise was in reach or whether the new White House stance amounted to a substantive shift in its position.

Read on...........

:kick: & Recommended!

[datadiva]

26. Oh thats nice

Still doesn't make it legal. Reprehensible, evil, damn people. Anyone who votes for this bullshit should have to be interrogated first using the methods they intend to use on the "enemy".

[sidpleasant]

28. Anyone who votes for this must explain ...

... why they think that it's OK for American soldiers to be tortured. If the US wipes its ass with the Geneva Conventions then so will every country we might fight. Whatever we do to "terra - ists" will eventually be done to an American soldier somewhere. All these Republicans should have to explain why they won't have a problem with, for example, Iran waterboarding a pilot they shoot down in Bush's October Surprise attack on that country.

[bluedog]

27. it was just a Political ploy.......

they were freaking playing games to get the peoples attention............pure and simple..........both sides are coming together?......yea..they were together all along........the media played this one to the hilt.....the rebellious republicans,,,,..the bla bla bla ....

[sabra]

29. WHITE HOUSE SAYS DEAL ON DETAINEE LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW CIA

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT006001.htm

21 Sep 2006 20:56:57 GMT

WHITE HOUSE SAYS DEAL ON DETAINEE LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW CIA INTERROGATION PROGRAM TO GO FORWARD

[HereSince1628]

30. But going forward doesn't mean torture is OK does it or does it?

[Solly Mack]

31. "We got what the president asked for,"....Tony Snow said

Damn

[sabra]

32. BUSH URGES CONGRESS TO APPROVE LEGISLATION ON INTERROGATION PROGRAM BEFORE

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT006002.htm

21 Sep 2006 21:08:17 GMT

BUSH - AGREEMENT ON INTERROGATION PROGRAM CLEARS WAY TO DETAIN, QUESTION AND TRY TERRORISM SUSPECTS

[emald]

33. mr. signing statements agrees to nothing

at least where it counts. Of course they've had an understanding, an agreement. McCain gets nothing in the long run but another bung up the but and we, the people, have become torturers, by fiat. My country tortures people. I'm trying to get used to saying it.

[MasonJar]

34. Did they kiss and make up? Or did they eat cake on it?

[wagthedogwar]

35. Doesn't matter what they do....

McCain just blew his chance to ever be President, haha!

[Az_lefty]

37. well, isn't that special...

bush is a criminal and McCain has no spine. How the hell is the destiny of our country determined by these two ass-hat's?
:puke:

[Contrary1]

38. WH: Detainee legislation allows CIA interrogation program to go forward

And Chimp tries to suppress his excitement with his hands:

[Hotler]

39. Hey John! How does it feel to be....

W's bitch?

[leesa]

41. It will be quite ironic if McCain, who endured years of torture in a bogus

war, will be the architect of the means to get torturers in a new bogus war, off the hook, and put his fellow soldiers in peril to boot.

I have no doubt he will do it. He is a greedy man.