Falwell: Hillary Would Fire Up More Voters Than Lucifer

[sabra]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-falwell24sep24,0,4255550.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Falwell: Hillary Would Fire Up More Voters Than Lucifer

WASHINGTON — Nothing will motivate conservative evangelical Christians to vote Republican in the 2008 presidential election more than a Democratic nominee named Hillary Rodham Clinton — not even a run by the devil himself.

That was the sentiment expressed by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, the longtime evangelical icon and founder of the once-powerful Moral Majority, during private remarks Friday to church pastors and activists as part of the Values Voter Summit hosted this weekend by the country's leading Christian conservatives.

A recording of Falwell's comments was obtained by The Times, and his remarks were confirmed by eyewitnesses.

"I certainly hope that Hillary is the candidate," Falwell said, according to the recording. "She has $300 million so far. But I hope she's the candidate. Because nothing will energize my like Hillary Clinton."

Cheers and laughter filled the room as Falwell continued: "If Lucifer ran, he wouldn't."

[DRoseDARs]

1. Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Fucking senile old loon. :eyes:

[roguevalley]

2. someone needs to seriously sift this gut bag's closet and publish

all of it.

[gulliver]

3. How would Hillary running keep Lucifer from running too?

Lucifer is Republican.

[Jamastiene]

4. Yeah, he'd be friends with Lucifer.

I think he already is, to be honest about it. To Hell with Falwell and all his bullshit followers.

[sandnsea]

5. "Falwell Likens Former First Lady to Lucifer"

Yes, this is just as bad as Chavez calling Bush Satan and the Dem Party should run with it.

[tabasco]

29. I suppose these good Christians hate Hillary so much

because she wanted to get everybody health care, even poor people.

Yep, I guess Falwell thinks the devil is some weird liberal who likes to help poor people (sort of like Jesus).

I think Falwell represents Lucifer much better than Hillary.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

42. That was my thought also.

If it is bad form to refer to a sitting president as the devil why is it not bad form to say the same thing about a former first lady? This people confirm they actually have no respect for anything including themselves.

[neuvocat]

6. He has no idea what he's saying.

Neither does his audience for that matter. I thought these people read the bible but Falwell apparently doesn't even bother to dust his, let alone actually open the cover for it.

[lumberjack_jeff]

7. Lucifer can't run. Term limits, you know. n/t

[arcos]

8. LOL! nt

[arewenotdemo]

9. Give him credit, Falwell's right for once

I'm counting on President Gore to run and win again.

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[cornermouse]

25. If you don't want Hillary to run that's one thing.

Using Falwell to support your position is just plain wrong.

[arewenotdemo]

44. Not USING falwell to support my position

I'm just agreeing with him that her nomination would fire up the Repuke base like nothing else could.

Uh, I think that's pretty obvious to everyone who isn't a fan of Hillary.

[cornermouse]

45. Assumptions.

See. You assumed that because I disagree with Falwell and using him to make your point that I am planning to vote for Hillary in the primaries. You're wrong.

I just object to using someone as debased and corrupt as Falwell to support a position. And in fact, if I ever did find myself agreeing with Falwell, I would immediately consider the near certainty that I was on the wrong side.

[arewenotdemo]

47. I agree with your last point

that's why I pointed out that "for once" he was right (IMO).

Why all the anti-Falwell rants if you agree with what he stated? Better to understand the enemy. And better to deny them the easy target that we, and they, both believe that Hillary Clinton would be.

[cornermouse]

48. I don't agree with what he stated.

My personal choice is not Hillary, but that doesn't translate into agreeing with Falwell. You're assuming again.

[trogdor]

39. Could have told you that myself.

There's something about the "Hillary running for President" idea that brings all the Republicans cockroaches out of the woodwork. Go out into the hills and ask ten random strangers how they feel about President Hillary. You'd get a similar answer nine times out of ten, "not if me and my buds at the VFW have anything to say about it," and the tenth would say, "seriously, do you Democrats enjoy getting your asses kicked in November?"

As long as she's the junior Senator from New York, she doesn't register on their radar, but the moment some jerk from Fox News raises the possibility that she might run for President, every beer joint in Bubbaland is abuzz with the story. I could go home to Mom and Dad next week, and I'd hear him ask me what I thought about Hillary before I could finish my beer.

I hate that this is the way it is, but it just is. Let her serve New York State. Let her do it well. Give us a majority that will let her chair some committees. But for God's sake, let her STAY in New York. We need her right where she is.

[TayTay]

10. Yeah, well Lucifer wears sucky pantsuits and smells bad

So, there is that. (Seriously, if Lucifer switched to Armani for the work week and a nice pair of cowboy boots and some close fitting jeans for weekend jaunts to clear Hell's little corners of brush, well, he would probably carry several states. Appearances counts you know.)

Honestly, the fact that Falwell can comment on Lucifer personally is very telling. It says something that Falwell has been obsessing over Ye Olde Boy, even to the point of thinking about running Him for office. Very telling indeed.

[MichaelHarris]

11. So

will the IRS go after his church like it's doing to the one in Ca?

[kysrsoze]

24. Does anybody know if his church is a not-for-profit?

I'd be willing to be it isn't. What a scumbag.

[Straight Shooter]

12. Such a nice Christian man.

:sarcasm:

[Mojambo]

13. You should see Lucifer's campaign chest. n/t

[area51]

15. Lucifer

Apparently Jerry Foulmouth has failed to notice that Lucifer is currently running this country in the form of Geo. Bush. :eyes:

[Joe Bacon]

16. Kick Falwell of the Welfare Gravy Train

The time has come to tax all religion. It's time for Jerry to stop being a welfare queen and RENDER UNTO CAESAR!

[Dogmudgeon]

17. "Lucifer" = "Light Bearer"

Inadvertantly good choice of words from Citizen Falwell.

--p!

[ShockediSay]

18. Is this a tax exempt religious org? Why hasn't the IRS looked at them

like they are examining All Saints Episcopal Church

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2198366

Very Nixonian methinks

[Tellurian]

19. Falwell, expert on Teletubbies and Luci-fer..

The old psyco has gone round the bend if he's invoking Lucifer.
Someone mentioned checking his closet, no telling what you'll find.

Hillary, never, never, let these yahoos up for air.
They're all INSANE!

[sofa king]

20. That's code-talk for Bush, right?

Wait a minute. The President never tells the truth and he says he's not the Devil. Hugo Chavez says he is.

So does that mean Jerry Falwell thinks Bush is going to run for President again? I'd mention the 22nd Amendment, but who pays attention to the Constitution anymore?

[truthisfreedom]

21. "I think we're going to keep the House and the Senate," he said. "I think

the Lord will take care of that."

hmm... reminds me of when bush was asked about the growing Democratic Party leads in the upcoming election and how he feels about the prospect that they may win... "that isn't gonna happen."

sounds like Falwell's "god" has the keys to the Diebold machines.

[krispos42]

22. What if Hillary runs as a Republican?

God, Falwell's head would spin around like a top, then explode.

Like those androids in that Star Trek episode. "Does not compute", then :nuke:

[More Than A Feeling]

23. If Hillary is worse than the devil, is Bush better than God for Falwell?

(and is Cheney better than sex?) A revelation that would shock noone

[mtnester]

26. But you know what? If Lucifer was a Repub, and was running against

Hillary, who is a Dem...and everyone was clear on exactly who Lucifer is..who do you think they would vote for?

Give your honest answer...would Lucifer be our next Prez?

On edit, this in no way refers to the Lucifer who currently squats in the people's house. :)

[Vinca]

27. It's a shame a noble woman's reputation is trampled by

a lunatic and it's covered in the media. I'm betting Sen. Clinton has done more of "the Lord's work" than Jerry "Send-Me-Your-Checks-and-Money-Orders" Falwell ever conceived of doing.

[LeftishBrit]

28. So it seems that Falwell agrees with Chavez!

Hillary Clinton's biggest opponent - Bush - is the devil!

We have all-party, international support for that view now!

[IDemo]

30. Looks like time for a little visit from the IRS->

IRS warns churches: no politics allowed

[mitchum]

31. I will celebrate Falwell's death...

and I hope it's a painful one.
No apologies. I never said that I was nice man.

[Pattib]

37. I know I shouldn't laugh at your post...but I join you.

I hadn't seen any pictures of Falwell recently and was SHOCKED at how overweight he is. Wasn't he recently hospitalized? I remember hearing that about a year ago. Surprised that he hasn't lost weight. He has always been large, right? He just seems really bloated now. Like my father did before he died of liver failure due to alcoholism.
With all his money you would think he could afford a nutritionist and trainer. His body just screams gluttony.

[leesa]

32. So these people can't see that Bush is less moral than Hillary?

Bible-bangers have serious ethical problems. I don't want Hillary as a candidate and I believe she has acted immorally regarding the Iraq war, but there is no way she is closer to a devil than any of these people are.

[Donnachaidh]

33. So when exactly is the IRS going after this asshole?

He *is* playing politics.

[Eugene]

34. Falwell sez "That was totally tongue-in-cheek." Har. Har.

(Associated Press)

Falwell Acknowledges Clinton Comment


Sunday September 24, 2006 9:01 PM

By DENA POTTER

Associated Press Writer

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - The Rev. Jerry Falwell acknowledged on Sunday saying
that if Hillary Rodham Clinton were the Democrats' presidential nominee
in 2008, it would motivate conservative evangelical Christians to oppose
her more than if the devil himself were running.

Falwell said in a telephone interview that his comments to several hundred
pastors and religious activists at the "Value Voter Summit" conference were
"totally tongue-in-cheek."

-snip-

Falwell told the AP that he did not intend to demonize the former first lady.
"That was totally tongue-in-cheek and everyone in the building knew that
and everyone laughed," Falwell said.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6102525,00.html

[Ecumenist]

35. Bullshit...

His fat ass is seeing the writing on the wall for his "church" and I for one, think that I'l drop a little note for the good folks at the IRS to have a chat with him and his merry band of slobbering creeps about violating the politicising of religious edifices. :evilgrin:

[PurityOfEssence]

36. Possibly, but that's because SHE actually exists.

I'm just getting sicker and sicker of the Fantasists taking over this country.

[BlueJackal]

38. All I'm going to say is that if she runs I'm writing Al Gore's name.....

on the ballot. He's the true-president right now. It was stolen from him in 2000 and he is the rightful incumbent as far as I'm concerned. I, along with many other Dems and progressives, are very afraid of Little Miss Hillary. Trust me, the fear sadly and shockingly transcends party lines for many of us.

[barb162]

40. I wish he'd shut the hell up

what an idiot!

[superconnected]

41. Is this guy a Christian? i thought lucifer was the ultimate bad guy.

Apparently he doesn't seem to think lucifer is so bad.

[regnaD kciN]

49. To answer your questions..."no" and "yes"

;-)

[Megahurtz]

43. Beware of False Profits! n/t

[sendero]

46. He's merely stating the obvious......

.... and something I've said here (in slightly different words) 10 times.

The fact that he said it doesn't make me want to change my mind.