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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:29 AM
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Slain woman’s children found dead at home (3 missing kids)
An acquaintance is charged with killing their mother by cutting a fetus from her womb.
The Associated Press

EAST ST. LOUIS, Ill. | Three children missing since the body of their pregnant mother was discovered last week with the fetus cut from the womb have been found dead, authorities said Saturday.

The finding came hours after Tiffany Hall, 24, was charged and jailed on $5 million bond in the deaths of Jimella Tunstall, 23, and the fetus authorities think was cut from the dead woman’s womb after she was knocked unconscious.

The bodies of DeMond Tunstall, 7, Ivan Tunstall-Collins, 2, and Jinela Tunstall, 1, were found about 7 p.m. in Tunstall’s apartment at the John DeShields housing complex.

Police had been searching for the children since they found Tunstall dead last week in an East St. Louis lot. The three were last seen with Hall on Monday, three days before she was taken into custody.

(more)

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/15594380.htm

This has me so disturbed, I cannot sleep. God rest those poor little souls.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:39 AM
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1. Why on earth did they not check the victim's apartment until now?
According to another report, they suspected Hall after she had a funeral for the baby girl and admitted to her boyfriend that she had killed the mother.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:44 AM
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2. I can't figure that out either
It seems like that would have been the first place they went after the girl admitted to killing the mother, if for nothing else than clues into the original murder.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:53 AM
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3. The whole thing is so bizarre and horrible, it makes no sense.
I can't even imagine what it would take to cause someone to snap and commit crimes like that.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 08:03 AM
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19. looking for reasons
Not an excuse, but I wonder if the paternity of the fetus could have caused the women to go in a rage and kill her friend?
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 02:56 AM
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4. The news report said
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 03:00 AM by Bobbie47
they found the kids in a washer and dryer. I think they look around on another occasion but found nothing.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:05 AM
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5. Do you have a link?
I looked but all of the articles I found had this report:

The bodies of DeMond Tunstall, 7, Ivan Tunstall-Collins, 2, and Jinela Tunstall, 1, were found in an apartment at the John DeShields public housing complex, capping a furious two-day search that included scouring an 1,100-acre state park.

Authorities said a lead directed them to check the apartment, which had not been searched previously. They declined to elaborate.
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:19 AM
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6. Go to Jeff Small's report
http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=104192

Go to Jeff Small's report at the very end he tells what he's heard.

On the right hand side
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:31 AM
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9. Thanks.
It's from Thursday so I'm not sure if it's new or old info.
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:37 AM
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11. The Jeff Small's
report was from tonight 10:00 news. or Saturday now. It the video and at the very end he says he had 3 people tell him that the kids were in the washer and dryer.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:43 AM
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12. Okay, Thanks.
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 03:45 AM by beam me up scottie
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:48 AM
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13. The police had a press
conference at 7:00 here about finding the kids, Mom
was found on Thursday the kids tonight, Jeff report was on our 10:00 news on Saturday night. I'll go back and listen but I know they didn't find the kids until Saturday and Mom was found on thursday when the woman who killed her took them to the body.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:53 AM
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14. My bad.
I saw the date on the report and thought it was old.
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:57 AM
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15. No problem
I live by Collinsville and the news stations would break into the tv with updates, so it was in the news a lot around here.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:19 AM
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7. Here's one
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/FE48146269DE6350862571F30015F78D?OpenDocument

East St. Louis Police Chief James Mister said Hall led police to the apartment. Police had been to that apartment Thursday evening, but did not know any children were missing, he said.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:26 AM
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8. WTF? It says they didn't know the kids were missing on Thursday.
Where did they think they were?

It just gets worse and worse. And the picture of the kids...
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:12 PM
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23. Newer link...
http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20060925/D8KBISRG0.html

The whole thing makes me so sad... :(

The police had gone in the apartment earlier, but they were looking for photos to use in the serach, not for bodies...
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:35 AM
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10. A picture of the children:



RIP DeMond, Ivan and Jinela
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:00 AM
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16. So sweet.
I think I'm going to try to lay down now. My heart is so heavy, I cannot imagine what that family is going through.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:02 AM
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17. Me too.
No dreams for either of us, I hope.
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Bobbie47 Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:08 AM
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18. me three
what we humans do to each other is sick.

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:41 AM
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20. But plenty of nightmares.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 10:59 AM
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21. Too horrible, just too horrible for words...
I find myself praying each night for those who are CURRENTLY suffering - right now - at the hands of this REPUKE CRIMINAL government, and other sadistic thugs - that they may have a period of NO SUFFERING - hopefully at least a night or even an hour - it wounds me so.

All the adults, children and animals who are suffering NEEDLESSLY...
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:08 PM
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22. More loss of life ......it breaks my heart these kids never had
a chance....I pray that they will have better after life....

Can someone tell me is this stuff happeing more and more? What is going on with people killing other peoples kids, cutting fetuses out of wombs, what the hell is that about?
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 11:41 PM
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24. Me too.
It bothers me so much I can't get over it. The whole story is so awful and horrible that I can barely believe it really happened.

I think the reason I tend to stick to political news over everything else is because I just can't take the local news anymore. Every time I read the local news I end up feeling very upset.

It's sad to hear when anyone dies, but killing babies on purpose, I can't take it. I lose sleep over it too.
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 07:50 AM
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25. She will go to a mental hospital
because killing kids is O.K.
Poor, poor women, she is sick:eyes:

The apologists will be out in force, believe it.

Kill a kid,(or FIVE!) get off, with sympathy...sick god-damned world we live in.

She , and Andrea Yates, can be in the same, quiet, serene place, to "get better"

Meanwhile, the kids are dead...but who cares about them??
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fladonkey Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:13 PM
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26. Question!
Did these two women know each other? This story is tragic on so many levels.
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jacklambert Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 02:52 PM
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27. Yes, they did...
they were acquaintances and the killer actually watched after the victims kids on occasion.

What is it with someone who is so perverse and void of any respect for human life that they would do something like this. This is among the greatest of human depravities.

Does this happen in other countries or is this something unique to the American experience??
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fladonkey Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-27-06 07:38 AM
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28. Evil is everywhere....
this has happened a few other times that I can recall. There was a case about 10 years ago in Chicago and I also recall another case out west.
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