Terror analysis rejected, Anti-U.S. Feelings Came Before Iraq, White House

[maddezmom]

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Peter Watkins, a White House spokesman, declined to talk specifically about the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), a classified analysis that represents a consensus perspective of all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies.

The highly classified report, delivered to policy-makers in April, is the first of its kind since the start of the Iraq war in March 2003. In it, the agencies concluded that the war has only worsened the U.S. effort to defeat global terrorism. They said that the war is spreading radicalism from Iraq throughout the Middle East and that the longer it continues, the more likely it is that it will provide fresh training grounds for future terrorist plots.

But the White House view, according to Watkins, is that much of the radical fundamentalists' deep anger at the United States and Israel goes back generations and cannot be linked to the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.

``Their hatred for freedom and liberty did not develop overnight,'' Watkins said. ``Those seeds were planted decades ago.''

He said the administration has sought in Iraq to root out hotbeds of terrorism before they grow. ``Instead of waiting while they plot and plan attacks to kill innocent Americans, the United States has taken the initiative to fight back,'' Watkins said.

more:http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/nation/15602832.htm?source=rss

So the White House refusing to listen once again. :eyes:

[Kolesar]

1. GOPs are on the defensive;let's hope Americans can see through this

...impossible logic that they are using. The talk around the water cooler here is that Iraq was not *our* problem until bush* made it our problem.

[Vinca]

2. Who ya gonna believe - me or your lyin' eyes? nt

[CJCRANE]

3. That's an illogical argument.

Just replace the word "terrorism" with "crime".

If crime increases we don't just put our hands up in the air and say "nothing we can do about it, there's always been crime".

[IndianaGreen]

4. The White House should make the entire report public and let us decide

after all, aren't we the owners of this country?

I am sure that the report's top secret classification has nothing to do with the embarrassment it would cause to the Bush regime were it to be published in its totality.

:sarcasm:

[NC_Nurse]

5. Bullshit.

We had a lot of sympathy worldwide after 9/11, these a'holes squandered it.

[leesa]

6. Yup. They hate freedom and liberty. Everyone does, ya know.

[ixion]

7. "hatred for freedom and liberty"

while it's true that Islamic extremists dislike freedom and liberty, the same is true for ANY religious extremist.

Xian and Jewish fundies hate us for our 'freedoms' just as equally.

[PSPS]

8. Just more "cherry picking" of intelligence

This is just more "cherry picking" of intelligence. Only this time, there is no finding by any intelligence agency that fits bush's "agenda," so they just make up their own! Pretty incredible, isn't it?

[niceypoo]

9. And now they are 100 times worse...

...this is so laughable...

[ima_sinnic]

10. if they "hate us for our freedoms," why haven't they attacked Norway?

or any one of a bunch of very free and progressive countries?
do people still believe this simple-minded crap?
oh, and that report isn't true because jr. shit-stain wannabe emperor says so!

[Kagemusha]

11. Cannot be linked, eh?

Because good Iraqis all welcome the invasion and occupation of their country, and the fact some oppose it is just proof of their inherent evil?

And um.. so then, how do we defeat them then..?

Fight them until every last one is dead? Is that it? Or find a way to Cloud Men's Minds and deny them the will to plant IED's?

I'm not even joking - I think the latter is an accurate description of the Cheney-Rumsfeld approach to warfare.

[Jawja]

12. ``Their hatred for freedom and liberty..."

What a crock of horseshit. :puke:

[maddezmom]

13. Wonder if they will investigate who leaked the info?

probably 1 in each of the 16 agencies.

[maddezmom]

14. US spy chiefs say Bush's war is spur to jihad

Intelligence officials say Iraq conflict has fuelled rise in Islamic fundamentalism Assessment blows a hole in White House optimism over war on terror A STARK assessment of terrorism trends by 16 intelligence agencies in the United States has found that the US-led invasion and occupation of Iraq has helped to spawn a new generation of Islamic radicalism and that the overall terrorist threat has grown since the attacks of 11 September, 2001.

The classified National Intelligence Estimate, completed in April, is the first formal appraisal of global terrorism by US intelligence agencies since the Iraq war began and it represents a consensus view of the 16 disparate spy services inside the American government.

Entitled Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States, it asserts that Islamic radicalism, rather than being in retreat, is growing and spread worldwide.

An opening section of the report, Indicators of the Spread of the Global Jihadist Movement, cites the Iraq war as a reason for the diffusion of jihad ideology.

The report "says that the Iraq war has made the overall terrorism problem worse", said one US intelligence official.

more:http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1413652006

[EarthNeedsHope]

15. Everyone knows the point is is that it has INCREASED significantly

This is elementary school debating. Someone better call these people on this bullshit.

[wicket]

16. Effing pathetic!!!!!

:grr:

[dkofos]

17. So I guess we can disband the CIA and save the country

$30 billion.

It would appear that they are no longer relevant.

[calimary]

18. Instead of dismissing it as "old news," I guess this would constitute

"REALLY REALLY old news."

Just more ammo in our arsenal, guys.