Poll shows Lieberman with ten-point lead over Lamont

[Freddie Stubbs]

HAMDEN, Conn. It appears Connecticut Democratic Senate nominee Ned Lamont has lost his momentum.

A new Quinnipiac University poll has Lamont running ten points behind incumbent Senator Joe Lieberman, who is running as an independent.

Lamont upset Lieberman in the Democratic primary in August.

While Lamont has slightly higher favorability ratings among Democrats, Lieberman is running much better among Republicans and unaffiliated voters. And voters with no party affiliation outnumber Democrats and Republicans in Connecticut.

more: http://www.wluctv6.com/Global/story.asp?S=5470102&nav=81AX

[Tempest]

1. Today's Zogby poll has Lieberman at 45.8% and Lamont at 44%

http://tinyurl.com/frzlq

[NewJeffCT]

2. That is more in-line with other recent polls

Like Rasmussen & ARG.

And, I'm guessing the NIE and Lieberman's huge flip-flop on Iraq had not sunk in at the time of the poll, either.

[Tempest]

6. Not to mention Lieberman refusing to call for the release of the full NIE

That's going to hurt him as well.

[CookieD]

11. Zogby is no more reliable than any other poll ...

Notice how your poll has Casey ahead of Santorum by only six points?

Let's face it: Zogby is delusional. Rasmussen is biased. Gallup is flawed. And ARG is all over the map.

We might as well read tea leaves.

[question everything]

29. Is this the same pollster who gave Lamont a 14 point win during

the primaries?

[saigon68]

48. "BRING EM ON" shouted the DRAFT DODGING CHIMPANZEE and son

[Tesha]

3. You know all that shit we're fed about "hold your nose and vote for the D"

You know all that shit we're fed about how we each must absolutely
and positively "hold your nose and vote for the Democrat", no matter
how appalling their positions?

It's a lie told by the DLC and other political power junkie
insiders. They simply want the most corporate candidate they
can get, and they care not a whit about party affiliation
except when it's convenient as a bludgeon with which to beat
us lefties over the head.

Remember this race the next time you're told to "You *MUST*
vote for the Democrat because this is, like, the most important
race since forevah!"

Tesha

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. Uh, Lamont IS the Democrat. Lieberman is the unafilliated.

Vote for the Democrat.

Is that so hard?

[Tesha]

16. My point (which really wasn't that subtle)...

My point (which really wasn't that subtle) is that there are
clearly a load of CT "Democrats" who are planning on *NOT*
holding their nose and voting for the Democrat, but are
instead planning on voting "third party", the ultimate sin
when it's lefties doing it to the DLCers, but apparently
is perfectly "OK" when it's DLCers doing it to the lefties.

Tesha

[krispifried]

22. Beautiful

Worthy of its own thread.

[skipos]

54. Wha?

The problem is that UNAFFILIATED voters and Republicans are supporting Lieberman. Most Democrats support Lamont.

And on another note, you realize that many DUers who are upset that Lieberman wouldn't support the Dem nominee are the same DUers who often threaten to vote 3rd party, right?

[still_one]

12. what's your point?

you don't like the Democratic party, you don't want to work for change within the party, then don't register as a Democratic

One other point, just so you are clear, Lamont happens to be the Democratic nominee, and the Democratic party is supporting him

[Frances]

13. Tesha, Did you miss out on the results of the primary?

LaMont is the Democratic nominee. Lieberman lost the primary.

I think any progressive should be proud to vote for LaMont, the Democrat.

[Tesha]

17. No, *I* didn't miss the results.

But apparently, the memo was missed by a lot of
right-wing "Democrats" who are planning on voting
third-party in November.

Tesha

[Frances]

18. Most Repubs will vote for Lieberman. Some Dems

will also vote for Lieberman. Some of the Dems will do so because Lieberman has provided constituent service for them in the past (I found that to be true when trying to persuade Dems to abandon a very moderate Repub that we Dems were trying to replace in Congress). Some will support Lieberman because they genuinely believe that his stand on the Middle East is the correct one. Some will support Lieberman because they have done so in the past.

Two thirds of Dems are now supporting LaMont. The key is to get even more Dems and more of independents to do so. If you have time, maybe you could join others in working for LaMont. I read a post from someone calling for LaMont yesterday saying how he had been able to convince undecided Dems to come over to LaMont with calm reasoning.

[Tesha]

20. I'm out of state, but have supported Lamont financially...

I'm out of state (and busy trying to unseat our two
home-grown Republican Torture Bozos), but have supported
Lamont financially and will do so at least one more time
again before the election.

Tesha

[Frances]

24. Thanks for your help.

I really appreciate every single thing each of us is doing to save our country.

[plasticsundance]

21. I think the difference in the poll is Repug turnout for Lieberman

The Republican candidate is a joke. The Repugs have a gold mind in Lieberman. They're going to continue going with that horse.

[corkhead]

4. I think it is a lot tighter than that. Ballot positioning is going to be

a big difference. The Lieberman party will be down the page with the greens, libertarians, socialists, etc.

[bluestateguy]

5. Imagine this scenario

Lieberman wins, the Democrats net 6 Senate seats, which means to control the Senate they will need Lieberman to caucus with the Democrats. In such circumstances, I'm afraid they will have to take him back.

[iowa_democrat]

8. Lieberman will flip

I'm guessing that if the senate is indeed tied, Lieberman will show his true colors and flip to caucusing with the republicans.

You heard it here one million and eighty first.

[TheWraith]

27. He's already pledged to rejoin the Dem caucus.

If he went back on that, it would be really bad for him. Does anybody know if CT has recall elections?

[TankLV]

44. No he hasn't. He has EXPLICITLY stated that there is no guarantee he will

He has NOT said any such thing you claim...

[TheWraith]

47. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect.

As I recall, it was stated around the time that he first started talking about running as an independent that he would caucus with the Dems if elected that way.

[Freddie Stubbs]

15. He was never kicked out of the cuacus to begin with

Why would there be any need to 'take him back?'

[Le Taz Hot]

31. Lieberman will caucus with the Democrats?

Really? You don't think he'll owe the Republicans body and soul for helping him get re-elected? He'll do what his Republican masters order him to do.

[onenote]

33. if he's elected (and I hope not) he'll caucus with the Democrats

Bet on it.

[mac56]

37. I'll bet against that.

He's getting significant suppport from Rove and Co.

Quid pro quo. Ya gotta dance with the one that brung ya.

[TankLV]

45. Oh, I'll bet against it - and I'll WIN...

[Teaser]

7. Turnout is everything!!!

The differences in these polls is based on their assumptions as to who will turn out.

Q-pac is guessing we won't turn out.
ARG, Ras, and Zogby is guessing we will.

[ShortnFiery]

10. Bull Shit! Lieberman's going to LOSE. :P n/t

[still_one]

just saying it doesn't make it happen

it may give you short term allusions that it will happen, but the only way it WILL HAPPEN is if one side is able to convience the other side that they present a better vision. The problem is those that are NOT affiliated with any party, and those are the people who will make or break this election

[xchrom]

14. today lieberman unveils

''democrats for lieberman''.

interesting this headline and todays unveiling.

[KKKarl is an idiot]

19. Lamont needs to win

That will be the only safe scenario. It will also mean a person who votes more with the progressives. The Republicans know they cannot win in the CT race. So they would rather go with a centrist leaning democrat than a left leaning one. It is the way they do business. We on the other hand need to take the approach that we do not want a center leaning democrat from CT. We may have some from the Bible belt. But CT needs to have a progressive democrat.

[wisteria]

23. Maybe we should hope that repubs aren't motivated to come out

and vote. I just get the feeling if Lieberman gets back in, he will go Republican. Otherwise, why would they even support him. He may support the war, but he is a moderate and they hate moderates. They just want the additional number on their side.

[Kingofalldems]

25. Funny you didn't mention the Zogby poll

Messing with us again?

[Ameritopia]

30. Could be a Lieberman plant

[warrens]

26. Either way, we win

I think Lieberman is in for a surprise though. The Repukes might like him, but they're staying home this year, and a lot of Bush voters are running away from all Repuke candidates. This is one case where the polls could be very, very wrong.

[stepnw1f]

28. Can a Senator Be Impeached from Office? (nt)

[Freddie Stubbs]

32. No

[onenote]

34. no

per the Constitution, the only way to remove a member of the Senate is for 2/3 of the Senate to vote to expel him/her. Same for the House.

[Zhade]

35. And you support LAMONT, right?

NT!

[TankLV]

46. Don't hold your breath for a reply...

[bigdarryl]

36. This is total bullshit how can one poll say Leberman is...

loosing ground (ZOGBY) and another poll says Leberman is 10 points ahead i don't believe it for one minuter. who are they polling.

[Ediacara]

38. Why does Quinnipiac even produce polls?

Up until this year, they've been so infrequent and out of line, I'd have imagined they're just an assignment for an introductory class in statistics. This year, they're more frequent, but again, totally out of line with what everyone else is saying... :eyes:

[madfloridian]

39. Interesting story about Joe.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/321

[marchcalls]

40. think joe will hold a grudge?

if he wins .. think he will still vote with the dems?

[leesa]

41. I hope Connecticut punishes Lieberman soundly for voting for torture.

I despise this Senator for Israel

[VegasWolf]

42. Lieberman supports WATERBOARDING!!!! nuff said! nt

[TankLV]

43. That's disgusting...

And we know reid won't strip LIE-berman of any positions if he wins.

This sucks, and sucks big time...

[Voltaire99]

49. 'Dems for Joe' group launched by former Clintonistas, Senators, Reps

Just when you think you've got somewhere with this malodorous shambles of a corporation, suddenly the lid is lifted, and out wafts the stink:

'50 former Congressmen, Senators, Clinton vets launch 'Dems for Joe' Lieberman'

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/50_former_Senators_Congressmen_Clinton_vets_0928.html

[GetTheRightVote]

50. I think I will believe in the Zogbe poll before this Connencticut poll

Thank you very much.


:kick:

[and-justice-for-all]

51. Vote Republican, you vote for Death.

Lamont HAS to win.

[JennyB]

52. Unfortunately Joe might win

My ultra-conservative father and moerately-conservative mother are voting for Joe. They don't even know the Republican's name that's also running. Joe is getting support from repubs and conservative dems and some independents. My older brother and I rebelled against my parents and became liberals but somehow we all seem to get along. Anyways, CT is such a strange state. We don't really like ultra-conservatives, our gov. Jodi Rell is pretty moderate for a repub and we have lots of moderate and liberal mayors but we seem to really be into calling ourselves "independents." We even elected some guy when I was in high school named Lowell Weicker for gov. and everyone ended up hating him. Guess what? He was an independent. Joe used to be okay to me and he did help to save the Groton sub base and was Al Gore's running mate but I detest his stance on the war and his sidling up to Bush...eewww. Joe, you're such a repub, what happened?
That's why you won't get my vote. LaMont will.
Jenny

[Lisa0825]

55. Welcome to DU, JennyB!

:hi:

[Riverman]

53. HE MUST BE RUN FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOW

Before the election, and put on notice that he will be shunned completely. The voters in Connecticut need to know this. It may make no difference in the results, but the Democrats must stand for principles. In fact anyone who voted for the Torture Bill must be run from the party and shunned. Exposed in every possible way. Time to clean house!