White House criticizes Kerry's use of the F-word

[last1standing]

Another article from Salon:

When asked in the interview about the success of rival candidate Howard Dean, whose anti-war message has resounded with supporters, Kerry responded: "When I voted for the war, I voted for what I thought was best for the country. Did I expect Howard Dean to go off to the left and say, 'I'm against everything?' Sure. Did I expect George Bush to f--- it up as badly as he did? I don't think anybody did."

:snip:

"That's beneath John Kerry," the president's chief of staff, Andrew Card, said on CNN's "Late Edition."

"I'm very disappointed that he would use that kind of language," Card said. "I'm hoping that he's apologizing at least to himself, because that's not the John Kerry that I know."

The Kerry campaign said the Massachusetts senator had no regrets.

"John Kerry saw combat up close, and he doesn't mince words when it comes to politicians who put ideological recklessness ahead of American troops," said spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter. "I think the American people would rather Card and the rest of the White House staff spend more time on fixing Bush's flawed policy in Iraq than on Sen. Kerry's language."

:end snip:


Personally, I hope the Kerry campaign hits back at the bush* team like "major-league assholes"

[Cush]

1. Yeah

Bush can call a reporter an a**hole, but Kerry can't use the F word?

[Kremer]

17. Good for Kerry!

FUCK everything these lying assholes say! Oh repugs are so outraged by this. Fuck you! I wish Kerry would meet face to face w/ Bush and tell him to his face, "fuck you, you piece of trash." He could say he's delivering a message from the american people!!

[Nancy Waterman]

39. Bush said "Fuck Saddam"

"We are taking him out!" Looks like the same word to me.

[CBHagman]

49. Bush held up his middle finger...

...during a meeting with congressional leadership. It was Bush's way of describing Saddam Hussein's policy towards the United States. Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD) describes the scene in "Like No Other Time," his recent memoir.

Daschle observes that Bush demands a strict dress code from senators and representatives (Bush once demanded that Representative Richard Gephardt put his suit jacket back on for their White House meeting, citing "the rules") but apparently had no qualms with making an obscene gesture in that august group (my words, not his).

[pasadenaboy]

2. Right!

I hope someone calls Bush on calling the NYT reporter and A-hole.


Typical republican hypocrites.

[Endangered Specie]

3. What about W

calling someone a major league asshole?

And besides, kind of the truth.

Kerry goes up in my book after that one.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. Breaking: Member of DU criticizes WHITE HOUSE criticism of F word:

Fuck you, Andy!

[put out]

34. What she said!

Say it again! Amen.

[polmaven]

5. Evidently

the killing of 10s of thousands in an unnecessary war is perfectly acceptable behavior, but "cursing" is the crime of the century.

John Kerry was speaking to his audience. And, by the way, Mr. Card...The (p)resident DID f*** things up.

[sallyseven]

10. Andrew Card

Is just pissed because he never could get elected in Mass. He is always the water boy never the player or coach. He is such a blah person. Get a real job Andy. Stop being the water boy fro bush.

[MaineDem]

23. Andy Card is a major league POS!

You're absolutely right.

And welcome to DU, sallyseven. :hi:

[alarcojon]

52. crimes of the century.

1. Getting a blowjob in the White House B-)

2. Using f-word (if you're a Democrat)

3. Criticizing this administration, no matter how accurately or eloquently.

[JackSwift]

6. Bush used the word in the 1999 interview

in Talk Magazine with Tucker Carlson, and he used it repeatedly.

[last1standing]

8. Can you link that?

I hadn't heard that one before. It should be put around as much as possible now that bush* has come out against swearing in interviews.

[TheWebHead]

15. link

http://davidicke.www.50megs.com/icke/magazine/vol8/news/bushpottymouth.html

couple stories on his crudeness.. of course the most crude action was his Karla Faye Tucker "please... don't kill me" line.

[last1standing]

18. Good link. Thanks.

n/t

[0007]

28. junior's un-redeemable day will be coming shortly.

.....and we'll minmick this asshole.

[chelaque liberal]

47. I found this story charming:

When asked what he and his father talk about when they get together he said "pussy."
That word is so much more demeaning, and indicative of his character.

[ParanoidPat]

24. I did a quick Google search and found this......

.....from the Texas Observer.

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=264

Dubya and the Press

In the Texas media, the Governor walks on water.
But elsewhere, he's beginning to get caught in the backwash.

by Louis Dubose, Julie Hollar, and Nate Blakeslee

It's no secret that the Texas press corps loves George W. Bush. And his affection for the hometown media seems as sincere as ours for him. Few politicians are so completely engaging, so utterly disarming. At home in Austin, every press conference begins with a friendly exchange and ends with a joke or personal comment.

<snip>

Serving to illuminate the brighter aspects of Bush's character are McKinnon; a tattooed beer-drinking biker whom Bush steps out of the crowd to embrace at an Austin political rally; and crowds of Bush admirers. Bush himself reveals the dark side. Most disturbing is his callous mockery of Karla Faye Tucker, the first woman executed in Texas in more than 100 years. Bush, who refused to consider a thirty-day stay for Tucker and did not push his parole board to consider clemency, later denied that he made light of the execution of Tucker in the interview. But the offending passage is hard to refute. Bush said he refused to meet with TV interviewer Larry King, when King came to Texas to report on the Tucker execution. Then his comments get weird:

"I watched his interview with though," Bush said. "He asked her real difficult questions, like 'What would you say to Governor Bush?'"

"What was her answer," I wonder.

"Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me."

Bush was also generous in his use of the expletive "fuck," a sure turn-off for Christian-right voters. Conservative syndicated columnist George Will was so disturbed by the Talk profile that he actually did some reporting, reviewing a copy of the Larry King/Tucker interview and finding that Tucker had said nothing similar to what Bush told Carlson. Will wondered what Bush was thinking, or if he was thinking - and asked if Bush has the character to serve as president.

<more>

Anyone want to e-mail this to a friend? (Andy Card)? There's a link at the top of the page! :evilgrin:

[MoonAndSun]

7. Right on, John Kerry

keep going after AWOL just as hard as you can.

[Cadfael]

9. Grow up Card!

"I'm telling! John used a bad word!"

What is he, in the 4th grade?

[Endangered Specie]

11. roughly of the same IQ, so... yes

[Malva Zebrina]

12. right on it immediately aren't they

Kerry should not have done this, as much as anyhone agrees with him and are proud he could be so down to earth as to use this popular obscenity in language. Trust me--many people do not like it-at all-they cringe at it--as much and as popular as it is amongst the younger generations and as much as it perfectly fits the occasion. I do not think Kerry did a wise thing here. Can anyone imaging Clinton or Hillary using this type of rhetoric in public? Or Dean or Clark? Not a good choice here, Kerry. You are coming off as unwise and desperate.

[SadEagle]

19. Card shouldn't critize Kerry it, either, IMHO

I don't think Senator Kerry should have used this particular word, no matter how accurate it is, but I find Card acting as language police much worse. It is just kind of a none-of-his-business-type thing --- whether this is appropriate or not I would say is entirely up to the voters, since I believe using the powers and prestige of any public office to advocate non-objective 'morality' is an abuse of such office.

And besides, it strongly suggests that he can not respond to the criticism, and just chose to attack the choice of the words instead. You know, he may as well charge that General Clark's use of words like 'consigliere' is elitist and out of touch with regular people since many folks (including me) have to reach for the dictionary to get the precise meaning

[NewYorkerfromMass]

56. Marianne (and anyone who agrees with her) read post 5

and then 52. Put it in perspective. We should hold no shit back on these major league fuck-ups.

[joeybee12]

13. Oh, f**k you, Andy Card...

...and your little dog, too!

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

14. Right on, John Kerry!

It's about time someone tell it like it is. I appreciated the combat reference, too. Kerry, hit Bush and hit him hard! He's a lying, cowardly person who doesn't deserve to sit in the White House.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Fuck the squatters in the White House and the horse they rode in on n/t

[Melinda]

20. Quick - who said "Fuck Saddam, we're taking him out". Hint: - Not Kerry

Hmmm?

[Rex]

21. Card said Kerry is moot...er...irrelevant

wait, maybe it was mute. :silly:

[snippy]

22. I think we should put "Bush Fucked Up" on the dime.

[DeathvadeR]

25. FUCK, DOUBLE FUCK AND, TRIPLE DOG FUCK THEM!!!!!!! n/t

[drscm]

36. Rather than putting "Bush fucked up" on a dime,

I think it would be more accurate to say "Bush is a fuck up."

[Lori Price CLG]

26. Too f*cking bad for the White House, now isn't it?

Bush has f*cked the entire population of the globe, with the exception of his Halliburton whores and perverted nutball John AshKKKroft.

Kerry is correct.

Lori Price

CLG_Revolution_Tactics
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CLG_Revolution_Tactics/

[kskiska]

27. Then there's the Judy Woodruff/Al Hunt incident

In 1987 at a Dallas restaurant, Bush, apparently drunk, approached a table occupied by Al Hunt, of The Wall Street Journal, Judy Woodruff, of CNN, and their four-year-old son, and burst out with, "You no good fucking sonofabitch, I will never forget what you wrote!" Hunt had omitted the name of Bush's father from a list of possible presidential candidates he had sent in to Washingtonian magazine—because Vice President Bush had yet to declare his candidacy.

more…
http://www.theatlantic.com/unbound/polipro/pp2001-09-06.htm

I sure hope someone makes a big deal out of this tomorrow – maybe Dana Milbank – certainly Joe Conason and Paul Begala or James Carville.

[JoFerret]

29. Hate speech

- this is the new White house Mantra. it needs to be dealt a stunning blow by some articulate candidate who delivers the coup de grace without sounding defensive.
All opposition to Bush is now hate speech. It's the typical tactic of accusing others of what you do so well yourself. It needs careful handling.

[slappypan]

30. oh my virgin ears

"Fuck the Jews, they don't vote for us." –James A. Baker III

"We will fuck him. Do you hear me? We will fuck him. We will ruin him. Like no one has ever fucked him!" –Karl Rove

[ramapo]

31. Typical Republican hypocrisy

Do as I say not as I do is the underlying Repub mantra

[Spirochete]

32. He should have said

"I find Senator Kerry's language unacceptable. Besides - it was Clinton who fucked everything up."

[MODemocrat]

43. Why was it necessary to bring President Clinton into this?

No, it is Bush who has "f-cked" EVERTHING up, and I hope he is brought down for it. :boring: It's only a four-letter word, and it's
right on key, so you go Kerry!!

[Spirochete]

44. Because that's what they really object to

it's not the colorful word they object to - that's just their excuse. They don't like Kerry telling the truth about how * has fucked everything up.

[Guaranteed]

33. Good. The more coverage we get of

Kerry's anger, the better.

People don't use bad language unless there's sincere feeling behind it.

THAT'S how we're going to win this: people are going to see our SINCERITY.

[kaitykaity]

35. Sniff, sniff. Do I smell desperation?

If this is all they got, we're gonna do
fine. :bounce:

[Gman]

48. Yes, desperation

they're starting to really run scared now. Especially considering Bush's famous "fuck Sadaam" comment.

[WindRavenX]

37. Memo to Shrub:

F**k off.
Go Kerry GO!!!! :bounce: :bounce:

[Skittles]

38. Illegally invading a country and killing thousands is A-OK

BUT NO F***ING CUSSING.

[stlsaxman]

40. So Mr. Kerry, and what the f*ck is so wrong with going "off to the Left"?!

no text

[opihimoimoi]

41. Are we not A FUCKING FREE NATION???? Isn't that what THEY HATE US FOR?

Our Freedom?

Which means we are free to say the things we do and in the manner we wish?

[Raenelle]

42. It's OK to lie to get a war on, but horros if you call that "fucked"

How can anyone share the values of this Regime!?!

[Skip Intro]

45. "There's Adam Clymer - - major league a**hole..." - the moron

http://dir.salon.com/politics/feature/2000/09/04/cuss_word/index.html

"There's Adam Clymer -- major league asshole -- from the New York Times," Bush said.

"Yeah, big time," returned Cheney.

-------------

I get the sense they're starting to realize they're in a hole. If they push Kerry's use of an adult slang word to an adult magazine, bush is going to come out looking like more of a fruad than he is seen to be now. So I hope they do whine about this all week.

lol - Let's have a discussion about the proper use of language with liars and mr. is your children learning. Bring it on, dopes.

[devinsgram]

46. Yeah, right, like they never use those words,

didn't * call somebody an asshole at a campaign speech. Oh excuse me, whatever * does is alright. I forgot, how stupid of me.

[savistocate]

50. WH objections

Funniest thing---they don't argue his observation-assesment,
not reacting to the opinion voiced in large readership high profile mgz. Can't challenge his statement. Love that.

And that weak lame come-back, that Kerry's "irrelevant"--just big enough to run for US Prez, be given interview in major publication, have experience in evaluating any military situation. Those weenies really take to co-opting 60's protest
statement on the establishment. From them and decades after it just sounds way juvenile.

[RevolutionStartsNow]

51. I use that word about Bush often

and I bet many of us do the same.

Go Kerry! I think he should've called for "Fucking regime change", thus combining his two best statements about Bush.

[gmoney]

53. Col. Kurtz got it right...

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write 'fuck' on their airplane because -- it's obscene!"

--Marlon Brando as Col. Kurtz, Apocalypse Now

[gmoney]

54. That's NOT a denial, Mr. Card...

Note that Andrew Card does not deny that Bush is f**king up, just objecting that Kerry used the word. Hmmm...

Kerry let his guard down a little... I think that indicates he was actually speaking his mind, rather than making just another pre-scripted "statement." That makes the interview worth reading.

Funny thing is, this will have the same effect on Kerry's interview as the Fox lawsuit had on Al Franken's book. Shine a huge spotlight on it, and drive sales through the roof, rather than just letting it pass by. It's kind of like Playboy... people don't buy RS for the political interviews, but for the pictures of Britney Spears and the music reviews. I'm sure many of the subscribers are under 18.

But after this flap, you can bet a LOT of registered voters will seek out this interview and read all about why Kerry thinks Bush is doing a bad job.

Andy Card, I think YOU just f**ked up, too.

[pink_poodle]

55. Why don't they just fuck off! They have caused way more bullshit....

than anyone could ever even plan on causing. frigging idiots. They have some cheek to complain about the *f* word. sigh.

[BlueCollar]

57. Andy Card

and the white house...who cares what they fucking think?

I sure as hell don't.

This Democrat is going to be as respectful of this pResident* (squatter) as the republikkkans were of Bill Clinton.