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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:26 PM Original message |
Rep. Rangel Will Seek to Reinstate Draft |
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Mark E. Smith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. The day little suburban GOP kiddies get drafted .. |
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Copperred (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That is the absolute truth. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
177. Some are ignoring the fact that a draft could force us to commit war crimes. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Tell that to the families of the 50,000 Americans who died |
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Mark E. Smith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The opposition to the war in Vietnam collapsed... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. You are grossly misinformed. It was the complete reverse. |
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Mark E. Smith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Umm, no. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. You're flat wrong about your history. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. And US personnel after about 1971 could opt out of Vietnam. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
91. You make a lot of claims based on your memory alone. |
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nedbal (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #91 |
117. The draft did end by 73, it was close for me. |
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mahatmakanejeeves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
93. "only people who volunteer for Vietnam would go to Vietnam after about 1971." |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
67. The All Volunteer Army came about |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
135. Almost correct. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Rangel won't let them have their college deferments. |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. It would more likely end the Democratic Party |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Exactly. It would be the kiss of death. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #23 |
70. I doubt a draft will end the Democratic party |
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Copperred (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Absolutely...there should be a CLEAR AND TOTALLY TRANSPARENT DRAFT. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
159. There Is No Such Thing as a Fair Draft. Never Has Been. Never Can Be |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. I'm not 100% sure that this can't be worked around. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #161 |
165. There are people with disabilities serving right now |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #70 |
113. I will feel betrayed by any Democrat who votes for this |
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nicehuman (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #113 |
174. I agree with you |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
50. It didn't end the war in Vietnam. My husband wasn't eligible for |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
62. Well, it was June Cleaver that ended the Vietnam War |
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mahatmakanejeeves (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
92. "When the Beave came home in a body bag." |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #92 |
132. I was speaking metaphorically about the Beave |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. A Draft Would Enable More Wars |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. It kills me, Andy, how little people seem to learn from history. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
78. No, look at Vietnam and Iraq |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #78 |
106. Americans ALREADY oppose the war in Iraq. That's WHY the |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
163. My point (and I really did not address it in my post) is the Iraq war |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Exactly. If Bush's daughters have to go to Iraq, this war would have ended long ago |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. We're talking about MY kids, not Bush's. They'll never be at risk |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:25 AM Response to Reply #42 |
154. Do you really think |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:44 AM Response to Reply #42 |
157. A Draft Would NOT Send **'s Daughters to Iraq, Just Like It Didn't Send ** to Vietnam! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
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sugapablo (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
69. No. Unfortunately... |
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SKKY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
121. This is the dummest idea EVAH!! EVAH!!!!... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
140. NOPE never happen |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
146. You are so damn right... |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
147. You are so damn right... |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. I have no problem with a draft, I have a problem with using those |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Not sure exactly why you want to completely destroy Iraq... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
66. Yep, you are what they said you are. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #188 |
208. Nah really? No one who can google would know that. |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
71. may you drink the blood of every man, woman and child in Iraq |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
114. I have a better idea, Little Truman |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
186. Sounds like YOU want to volunteer... |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. I hope you are being sarcastic....if not, you are advocating what |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
166. Great Idea |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
181. It's obvious that you have no kids of Draft age |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 12:58 AM Response to Reply #181 |
207. I am 27 years old. And I still have no problem with the draft. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. So are you saying you have no problem with being Drafted yourself? |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. Nope, if I get drafted I get drafted. Right now I am serving my country |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. My son and daughter are prime drafting age. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. It would galvanize Americans to action -- against the Democrats |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. I agree with you, pnwmom, this will bite the Dems in the ass for 08 |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. You're right. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. It didn't work that way during Vietnam. Or at least it didn't |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #34 |
96. Repugs will never vote for it. It will die. Rangel is doing a National |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #96 |
104. And while he's bluffing them, he's making Democrats look like |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #104 |
151. Remember the Dems want to change image to "Strong on Defense & |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #151 |
167. One problem |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #167 |
176. Heritage Foundation agrees with you and so does Rumsfeld..but this |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #167 |
200. Every person in our military leadership knows that a drafted army sucks |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #151 |
179. "Strong on defense" - propping up illegal wars isn't that. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. What an asshole |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. DING DING DING! Bluestateguy, you're our grand prize winner! |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. I for one applaud him |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. It's still a stunt. In his district, he'll make points for this. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. It could work if it is properly crafted |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #56 |
103. I think we're crazy to have any confidence in his plan, whatever is may be. |
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Malidictus Maximus (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
137. Bullshit |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:11 AM Response to Reply #41 |
153. Hasn't Rangel been winning his district since the early 70's? |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. I totally agree with your content, though not with the title |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
119. You're totally right |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
139. The Dems Are Lucky Dumbya's So Inept |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
180. Plus, this version ISN'T 'no exemptions'. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. I wanted the draft to go but changed my mind years ago. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. That is also a good reason to have a draft. People need to |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
192. Are you nuts? YOU go serve then!!! |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 01:07 AM Response to Reply #192 |
209. Who said I support this war? I said I have no problem with a draft. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. Supporting the Draft IS supporting the War. |
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dorktv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. They drafted after WWII even when there was no war going on. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. I have two sons to worry about and I'm as involved as I can be. |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
76. Ditto....I have one who I will personallly drive to Canada. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:05 AM Response to Reply #76 |
129. My husband and I said the same thing during Vietnam and |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
221. Actually, they wanted a very small standing army |
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Leftisalwaysright (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
14. Amen |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. Provding alternatives to military service defeats the draft's purpose |
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rolleitreks (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
20. That does it. I'm voting Republican. n/t |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. did this asshat not get that the message we sent was "get the fuck out!"??? |
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Opusnone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. I agree with Rangel |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. No, the American people will feel betrayed. They didn't elect Democrats |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
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patrick t. cakes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
99. what do you mean "destroyed" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #99 |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
26. All this draft talk doesn't end the war, it can only end our majority. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
30. Rangel is just one guy |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. We don't need to be painted as the party that proposed the draft. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Like I said... |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Even Rangel voted against this bill (his own) when it was up before |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #51 |
102. The headlines are using words like "Top Democrat proposes." |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #102 |
195. OMG he's going to really fuck up our chances in '08!!! |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
32. This idiot should focus more on ending the war than making a point |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Yeh, that's why I voted Democratic. So they can start the draft so that I can go over to Iraq and |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Exactly |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. I Just Turned 18 - Im a Liberal (Why should I be forced to fight?) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. YellingTuna, I am TOTALLY with you -- and I believe most Democrats |
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Charlie Brown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. You shouldn't |
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Thomas_Paine1776 (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. Yes, your're right, we are dropping our call for a temporary draft . |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
74. I am also 18 |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. Thanks |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #35 |
197. You should not, and I would not! |
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laconicsax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
47. This is a terrible plan |
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Thomas_Paine1776 (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. Maybe that's what Charlie Rangel means. |
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Polethebear (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
123. Charlie's being stupid |
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Polethebear (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:39 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Followup............ |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #123 |
198. Yeah and Murtha should have been voted in there. |
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rollin74 (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. Is Rangel really against the war? I guess not... |
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Thomas_Paine1776 (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. He's turing up the heat on President Bush |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:33 AM Response to Reply #57 |
115. No. Exactly the opposite is true. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #54 |
107. "Dumbest idea ever!" I agree. |
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jtm111 (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
59. I don't get the surprise about this |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #59 |
108. I'm not surprised, I'm outraged. |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
141. The Bottom Line |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
60. no he's not nuts |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
109. I know what he thinks his point is. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #109 |
116. he's introduced this bill for the past few years |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 02:46 AM Response to Reply #116 |
120. He wasn't in a position of power before. Now he is. |
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Polethebear (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:42 AM Response to Reply #116 |
125. Yeah,we can get over it alright........ |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:38 PM Response to Reply #109 |
183. Not just bluffing - bluffing WITH OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. most Americans think very simplistically . . . if the Democrats propose a draft . . . |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. He can introduce whatever crap he wants |
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
65. Point well-taken, Charlie...now, STFU before this becomes a Repuke |
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kevin881 (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
68. Rangel is a MORON for bringing this up. |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
89. I was thinking of that |
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kevin881 (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. This is one thing that the GOP does better than the Dems.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #68 |
110. He's grandstanding for his constituents. |
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Mithheru (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
72. Would the service be back-dated or retro-active? |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #72 |
142. Rangel Is An Idiot |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
199. I don't like that "Great Republic" statement either. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
73. Why waste the time with a bill that is not going to pass? |
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Nick Fallon (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. I second that |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #79 |
189. welcome to DU. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
80. Challenges of Iran, North Korea and Iraq? |
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GoldenOldie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. Challenges of Americans to make any sacrifices? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Unfortunately, part of what he's saying is "we need to fight this war". |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #85 |
111. The American public has expressed strong disapproval of the war in Iraq. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
202. Sorry, those days are gone. |
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YellingTuna (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. Thats what I was wondering.... |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
81. Are you naive? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #81 |
112. I'm not naive. He's a grandstander. |
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maryallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #112 |
168. Rangel is NOT a grand-stander: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #168 |
187. So other kids should be forced to fight in an illegal war because yours volunteered? |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #168 |
203. FUCK NO I'm not supporting him! |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
83. I completely agree with Rangel, and I've been against this war from before it started. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. Were you drafted or did you volunteer? |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #97 |
144. In 1966 it wasn't much of a choice. |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
84. Any draft should START with George P Bush and the Trash Twins! |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
86. Because It Won't Happen |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
90. Drafting people into the military to stop war? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. Yup. We take all the heat for proposing a draft |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
94. Bad idea, and he needs to lay off it. |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
95. Goodbye to 08... |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-19-06 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
101. Oh, yeah, what possibly could go wrong with that? W wants to escalate. |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #101 |
143. Riiiiight.... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #101 |
190. Too bad the current version DOES have a loophole the rich can exploit. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
105. The hidden purpose... |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
118. Utter insanity. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #118 |
131. Maybe we could abolish the morning prayer in Congress |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 03:27 AM Response to Original message |
122. help me understand: how are you anti-draft people |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 04:55 AM Response to Reply #122 |
126. The draft is unconstitutional, period. |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. Although the 13th amendment |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #122 |
130. I'll tell you how this one anti-draft person is different from Republican chickenhawks. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:42 AM Response to Reply #122 |
134. in Vietnam, the draft worked this way: Poor kids got drafted and |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:20 AM Response to Reply #122 |
145. Welcome To The Real World |
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Dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #122 |
148. Because we don't support Bush's wars |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #122 |
155. Vote Nader! |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #122 |
169. i'm catching the same drift...poor kids can serve...not me or mine. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #122 |
191. Why do you feel the need to lie about our position? |
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Polethebear (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
127. Ok,I watched the clip |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
128. I don't think this bill will die in committee as surely as it did the last time. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:54 PM Response to Reply #128 |
194. Are you suggesting that military action against Iran or NK would be justified? |
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trogdor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
133. I doubt it will get out of committee. |
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oneinok (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 09:51 AM Response to Reply #133 |
136. Bring back the draft |
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Tight_rope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:02 AM Response to Reply #136 |
150. "Bring it back without any loopholes for anyone"....The ? is how? |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
149. "If you want a piece of the pie..... |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #149 |
164. It's Called "GETTING A JOB" |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #164 |
171. Well said (nt) |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #164 |
204. Not only that, but it's also called PAYING TAXES! |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:23 AM Response to Reply #164 |
211. This sort of sloppy "thinking" |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #211 |
213. Of Course |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #149 |
196. Some of us don't go in for blind obeisance to the state. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
152. I'm not going to pretend to know if this gambit will work or not. |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
156. Ego-vain Democrats piss away political capital and ignore working class problems |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
158. I will not serve. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
160. Leave the satirical comedy for Stephen Colbert. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
162. No. He's not nuts. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #162 |
170. Yes, he's nuts |
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Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. You and others seem to be overlooking... |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. I'm not over looking anything |
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smb (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:39 AM Response to Reply #172 |
212. Yeah... Good Thing We Already Do That |
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KingFlorez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #170 |
175. It's only to spark debate |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
178. HELL NO! WE WON'T GO!!! |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
184. Wouldn't cutting off additional war funding end the war much faster? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
193. Deleted message |
MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #193 |
201. this should be interesting |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #201 |
206. somewhat anti-climactic actually. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-20-06 08:43 PM Response to Reply #193 |
205. Oh but they can't do that.... |
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FreeStateDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
210. Forget "good intentions," Rangel loves being on TV way too much, another loose cannon egomaniac. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #210 |
216. Enlighten us with your evidence that Rangle "loves being on TV way too much," |
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Massachusetts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-21-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
214. Yikes |
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215. kick |
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