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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:17 PM
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Teachers union endorses Dean
Howard Dean dropped by Concord yesterday to collect the biggest organized labor endorsement New Hampshire has to offer: the backing of the 15,047-member state teachers union.

Karen McDonough, the union's president, said the executive board's decision to "recommend" Dean to its members was unanimous and came after an extensive vetting process. While all the Democratic hopefuls are committed to public schools, she said, Dean stood out his early and steadfast opposition to the No Child Left Behind Act, President Bush's school accountability law.

"All of the other candidates, and I repeat, all of the other candidates serving in Congress who are now running for president voted for No Child Left Behind," McDonough said. "They are now in the position of having to explain why they voted for it."

Dean's opponents have defended their votes for the act, which requires annual testing in grades 3 through 8 and sets strict goals for improvement. Dean's opponents say the act would be mostly good policy if only Congress had fully funded it.

more: http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/news/local2003/121103_dean_2003.shtml
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:20 PM
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1. Me Too! A response to J. Kerry's criticism of H. Dean on this war.
John Kerry: The Dean Sign on my office door . . . .

Stays, and I'll be removing myself from Kerry e-lists.

I am very tired of people thinking I am some sort of spoiled child who cannot tolerate, nor understand anything other than the perfect candidate. I'm a grown up. All of us were lied to about this war. I am a rational person I tested the war idea from the first that I heard of it, even though my own personal immediate opinions the minute I picked up the first war "Suggestion"/Lies were that George had just S __ T!, or vomited, (literally) in the nest. I analyzed what was being said nonetheless. Much of what I have understood about people lying, and America being suckered by some people in Iraq, and have said so to my elected representatives' staff people, has come almost exactly true. I have never been for this war, but I had to understand those who are/were, so I thought through the reasons to support it. This is what a rational person DOES, then she makes her decisions, I am disappointed John Kerry doesn’t know that we understand this about ourselves and others . . . It’s called being rational.

Like a Fool: I also EXPECTED us to find SOME!!! Weapons. I really did!

No Weapons have been FOUND, or at least not much!

And we can't find anyone, OBL, Saddam, his first in commands . . . ! Afghanistan totters on the brink, not to mention Pakistan.

More and More and More Money! LOTS AND LOTS OF IT! - For a LONG Time . . . MORTGAGING our Childrens' Lives!!!

I am ashamed of John Kerry for treating us like we stupid little children have not looked at John Dean WARTS AND ALL, John! we know what we are doing.

CHRIST! (. . . and this is a Prayer!) I'm sick and tired of being treated like a stupid child who cannot rationally respond to complexity!!!!

Kerry just lost me. We'll have to take OUR own Responsibilities for the Environment with the Greens perhaps, because I don't see a champion in John Kerry anymore. I used to say he had class . . . I am very disappointed that he knows so little about me and many other grown ups who will put Howard Dean in the nominations at the Democratic Convention.

Sorry about flaming like this, but I am Very, very tired of being treated like some kind of dumb, child who can't understand how Howard Dean, just like the rest of us, had to rationally process the "SUGGESTIONS!!!" - Lies - of the war making machine in this administration. Cheney was in complete control of Rove. I've been against this war from the first instant it was a remote possibility that somebody dreamed up to control the Pentagon or some political group or person, and make money for someone, with the support probably all of those voting Pentagon Contractors out there who make their livings on wars. Wars R US. And other growing Government jobs.

The ONLY jobs there are!

Not MY president!

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swittersnc Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:23 PM
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2. how many times
and in how many different places are you going to post this?
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:27 PM
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3. I keep thinking
It's some new teachers' union, but same old same old.

:dem:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:32 PM
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6. Just trying to get people to talk about John Kerry and Howard Dean.
I don't come here often lately.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:41 PM
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9. Thank you, Patrice...
Despie what other posters say, you have a right to post this where ever and as frequently as you like. I don't blame you for staying away - DU's GD forum has become a major bummer lately...
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 03:05 PM
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11. I've never read it before and I'm
glad to be reading it...so don't assume everyone's read it.

If you don't want to read it then don't.
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dobak Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:30 PM
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4. damn, give it up already
this is getting old!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:33 PM
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7. Unless, it's about Clark, right? - eom
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 03:18 PM
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12. "...stupid little children have not looked at John Dean WARTS AND ALL"
I was confused there for a second. I assume you mean Howard?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:32 PM
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5. I am NOT going to let a teachers union tell ME it's over!!
Not one vote has been cast yet!!! Anyway, that teachers union has been irrelevant since the 2000 selecion. Why didn't they fight SCOTUS?

</sarcasm>
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:40 PM
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8. Hey! You stole my complaint.
Really. During the recent handwringing over Gore's endorsement of Dean, the most common "gripe" was that Gore had no right make an endorsement before the primaries or before a vote was cast. Everytime that was expressed, I asked if the same thing applied to union and organizational endorsements and nobody ever answered me and went right on with their complaining.

I just wonder why one type of endorsement is okay, but another is not.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 02:59 PM
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10. Who were these democratic candidates?
"But yesterday, Dean said his rivals had it all wrong. No Child Left Behind, he said, is lousy education policy, no matter how much money Washington doles out to support it, because it cedes local control of schools to Washington."

These Washington insiders vote for the IWR, No Child Left Behind, I think we'd be better off by axing these guys and saving some salaries here. And they have the nerve to run for president?

Can't fool the NEA though, I guess.

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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:08 PM
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13. How about a guy who WASN'T in Congress...
And also opposed it? A guy named Wes?

B-)
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 03:53 PM
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14. right, a guy named Wes who wasn't in congress, or in the legislature,
... or in the governor's mansion, or anywhere in elected office, or in any position where he was accountable to the voters. no thanks.

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-03 06:32 PM
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15. WhoooHooo DEAN!!!!......Thank you teachers of America!!!!
Books not bullets!!!!
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