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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 09:48 PM Original message |
Future of Iraq: The spoils of war |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Um...I hope the Democrats push a "War Profiteering law" |
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pretzel4gore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. better idea;arrest all the pigs and utilize their stolen wealth |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. I can just imagine the wailing and gnashing of teeth |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Iraqis always knew it was all about stealing their oil; |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. They probably got a bit of a clue |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Forget the ammo dumps...bush didn't even order the nuclear plant |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I remember when that was going on. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Crunchy, you knew; I knew; a lot of DUers knew; even a lot of republicans knew. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. George w. bUsh already admitted the reason for his invasion was OIL; |
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CHIMO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
6. From More Than 3 Years Ago |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-06-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. And from Suskind's book on O'Neill where he mentioned the map of Iraqi oilfields. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. "It would be privatized by these laws that were written by another country." |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 03:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. and paid for by U.S. troops |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Blood for oil. Been going on for a century now. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Never happen. This is the very reason Bush CANNOT leave Iraq. He will lose |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And will that long-term 20% of profits go toward the deficit spending that got us there? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. My guess is that ALL profits wil go to one or another religious sector in Iraq. nt |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. Would it even work? |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. True, but on the upside they won't need to sabatoge it once they've kicked the American occupiers |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. Blood and oil: How the West will profit from Iraq's most precious commodity |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. k&r, how about a couple more recs to get on greatest? |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 11:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. kick |
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Contrite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Can't do it; thread is too old now |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-07-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. well bah for bad timing. Here is a GD link... |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-08-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
25. And was this war about anything else? nt |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-08-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Nope, and neither will the next one (Iran). |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Original message |
27. Future of Iraq: The spoils of war (New Iraqi law to grant extraction rights to western oil giants) |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. they might as well give extraction rights on Saturn |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I was about to say the same thing. |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The only thing being extracted in Iraq will be the US. Bush has spent all this blood and |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. WTF? What about re-building the country we waged an immoral war on? |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Not the Spoils but the Point nt |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
33. Kick. (nt) |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
34. Iraq to give Western companies control of oil: report |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Oh geez, this ought to piss off everyone. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I was wrong the Iraqi Parliament is still meeting....in London |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. No way would the private oil corporations be able to harvest that oil |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Crap, what do you think they'd have to name the troop |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Operation Protect George Bush's Fat Ass Cronies for the American Way. |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. OK How about this ... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Or...a strategic number of Lieberman style Democrats go to the |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. "Lieberman-style" not required. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. True. That will be a dark shadow that Hilary will have to walk through |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Ding! Ding! Ding! FOLLOW THE MONEY - there's your answer. n/t |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. New headline to reflect reality |
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Dover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Which is also why the auto industry continues to make gas guzzlers. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Here's the Sunday Independent's Story - " Future of Iraq: The spoils of war" |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I ran into this looking up the Iraqi Parliament |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. has the fat lady sung?.... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Bremer's Rule #39 |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. while new to me...there's been so |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
70. thanks |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #43 |
71. May I suggest a bonus? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #34 |
44. Repeat after me... |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. What army will protect the flow of oil? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Welcome to DU |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. So the mission really WAS accomplished |
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VegasWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
50. Once Bush's puppet government is gone, these contracts won't be worth the paper |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
52. Great. Now all we have to do is give ourselves control of the country |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Anyone in the Iraqi parliament who votes for this |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Maybe all of this was done to make sure the Russians didn't get control of it |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Maybe, but that certainly shoots down the idea that these |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Right |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Fucking Sick!!! |
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Ian_rd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
56. Why would the Iraqi government go along with this? |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. No threats just money |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #56 |
86. Well, some would like a pass out of Iraq. Maliki, for one. If he can get enough votes |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
62. executive order 13303 |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
63. How'd they pull that trick? |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
64. I thought control of the oil fields transferred |
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Emillereid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Mission accomplished! |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
69. This is what the Iraq War was all about |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
72. kick |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
73. Western companies may get 75% of Iraqi oil profits |
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Lautremont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. And there it is, the real casus belli. |
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MichiganVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Shocked. And to think we'll get the priviledge of paying for it all.... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. We're paying taxes to the oil companies.... |
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oblivious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. What? Nothing for Polish Oil and Gas Company? |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. That profit switch after the costs are covered will never happen. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Exactly |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Plus Iraq will never get the 25% due them. You know BigOil |
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newscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
81. I just assumed they have been pumping the oil out as fast as they can |
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Rose Siding (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. "I bring you the stately matron called CHRISTENDOM..." |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #73 |
83. And if anyone still believes the AUTONOMOUS Iraq gov't |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Iraqis of all religions and ethnicities would join guerrilla groups |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #34 |
85. worth a kick |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-09-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
87. What about the existing contracts? |
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