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deadparrot
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:39 PM Original message |
Calif. gov calls for universal (health) coverage |
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bemildred
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ahnuld wants the credit for this himself. |
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aquart
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Single payer NATIONAL health. |
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Schema Thing
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. Didn't he just VETO this 6 months ago? |
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nodehopper
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Mon Jan-08-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. that's exactly what I was thinking |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Yes, he fucking did. SB 840. |
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donkeyotay
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Now that sounds like GOP SOP |
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ReadTomPaine
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Bingo. That he did. Here's one of many articles about it... |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. He vetoed single payer |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Well, see, the thing about SB 840 was that it was actually going |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Well, see, the thing about single payer |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Funny how that could be the case when it passed the CA legislature |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. LOL. They passed it knowing Ahnuld would veto it. |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. And the advantage of doing that, for the legislators, is....? |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Politics 101. |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Here's an article about the independant Lewin Group's study, as well: |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. That;s an advocacy group's website |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Here is the actual report: |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Thank you. |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Here is the Lewin Group's website, as well: |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. AND, your concern of people stopping using the emergency room |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. You misunderstood |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Define Angelides as rational |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Man, you have to resort to the characterization tool... |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Nobody Wants It |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. So says SandnSea, with absolutely no basis whatsoever. |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. It creates a state insurance agency |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. You're not addressing the costs. The inflation. |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:23 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Subsidized premiums will get support |
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roody
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. I want it and I am somebody. |
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darkstar
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. My wife and I pay 480 a month |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. With no insurance |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. So you think telling 25M Californians they have to change insurance company's would have gone well? |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Their health care costs were going to go down. |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. The savings claims with single payer are overstated, especially in the short term |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Here is a very short video expaining the plan: |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. That's your evidence? A commercial?? |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. How many links do you want me to give you? |
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rinsd
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. C'mon now. |
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paulk
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. thanks for pointing that out |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. We have it |
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paulk
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. our new governor |
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Lucky Luciano
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
60. Agreed - any plan is a step in the right direction. |
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orleans
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. what a "girly man" |
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aggiesal
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. It will never happen!!! ... |
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Trillo
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. Arnold given millions for health care since first term |
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jljamison
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Mon Jan-08-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. this proposal... |
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David__77
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. I'm inclined to say this is positive. |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's not. It's total bullshit. He JUST VETOED a REAL universal healthcare |
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SoCalDem
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Yep it;s NOT about "coverage" it's about COST to patients & families |
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Guaranteed
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. This will actually be more expensive than the first plan. The idea |
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SoCalDem
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yessir.. This is just another republican ice cream sundae |
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Xithras
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
56. About the auto insurance thing. |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I agree |
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superconnected
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. since he vetoed this, now I'm going to guess he has a specific provider |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Oregon has many providers |
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superconnected
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I was thinking he'd chose a mega corporation that would own |
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sandnsea
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. That's the Democrats' job |
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superconnected
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Mon Jan-08-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. I also want universal health care |
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AX10
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
50. How will Arnie screw the public, yet again? |
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Joanne98
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Mon Jan-08-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
53. He's a liar. Read the fine print. |
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Cleita
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Mon Jan-08-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
57. He vetoed a workable plan. Anything he has to offer will benefit |
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Mon Jan-08-07 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. ahnuld is a proxy puppet... |
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Fire Walk With Me
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Tue Jan-09-07 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
63. And Bush called for a trip to Mars. Just hot air. |
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depakid
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Tue Jan-09-07 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
64. More corporate welfare for insurance companies |
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Ayesha
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Tue Jan-09-07 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
65. I would oppose state-only health care |
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