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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:57 PM
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Explosion rips through US embassy (Athens)
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 12:05 AM by Newsjock
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21048495-5001028,00.html

An explosion ripped through the US embassy compound in central Athens today, a police source said.

It was not clear what caused the blast inside the building and there was no immediate word on casualties.

Police cordoned off all roads around the embassy.

Police officials at the scene said that whatever caused the explosion damaged the embassy sign outside the mission but there was little other indication of the extent of damage inside.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-11-07 11:59 PM
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1. Probably nothing serious
I bet it was an accident. Nothing ever happens in Greece. They are quite people.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:50 AM
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62. I guess you never saw "Z".
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 07:55 AM by Tesha
Or maybe my sarcasm detector isn't warmed-up yet.

Tesha
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:49 AM
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84. You should go there during an election.
I think the Greek word for "election" translates in "big fight". Ok, I was being faceteous. But it's loud and noisy. Once for a Socialist rally in Crete, the fascists hired an entire village to start fights.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 03:26 AM
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135. Never saw Z
And never read the history of our complicity in some really horrible political intrigue... See Georgios Papadopoulos at wikipedia:

"In 1946, he received the rank of Captain and, in 1949, during the Greek Civil War, he rose to the rank of Major. (See also: Greek military ranks). He served at the KYP Intelligence Service from 1959 to 1964, after receiving training from the CIA in 1953...

"...Today, Papadopoulos is a symbol of authoritarianism for many Greeks, some of whom characterize him as one of the most despised persons in recent Greek history."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Papadopoulos

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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:00 AM
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2. But who cares what the rest of the world thinks
It is more important for us to chase our fantasy of spreading democracy :sarcasm:


I hope everybody is ok!!!
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:00 AM
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3. Oh my God
Any casualties?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:56 AM
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65. No; the building was unoccupied when attacked. (NT)
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:04 AM
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4. and so it starts
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:30 AM
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72. Yep - we attacked the Iranian embassy in Baghdad yesterday
This is called payback.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:37 AM
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82. More like blowback. n/t
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:16 AM
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137. Or false flag. At this point it doesn't really matter, does it?
Reap, Sow, that whole thing.

It has begun indeed.

Impeach, Indict, Incarcerate, 25th Amendment, any means necessary.

This has to end now.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:07 AM
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5. Countries neighboring Greece
Albania, Bulgaria, Turkey.
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:13 AM
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13. Seems like an inoffensive gas explosion with no casualties
the BBC made it sound as if it was a very minor incident.
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:58 AM
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36. Local News said it was a "terist" attack
And said "This is believed to possibly be a terrorist attack..." shit shit and more pointless conservative waste.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:03 AM
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38. rocket attack that took out a toilet.
question is why? Is it in retaliation for The Speech or the Iran consulate in Iraq or what?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:51 AM
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76. and a picture window.
Get ready for more of this thanks to G-Fucks diplomatic efforts.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:50 AM
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61. press speculation just like in the US
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:31 AM
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73. So did my local news
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:08 AM
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6. BBC reporting it too
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:11 AM
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10. That says the explosion was on the third floor
...which means, obviously, that it was inside the building.

That's bad.

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:16 AM
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14. yep
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 12:23 AM by bobthedrummer
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:08 AM
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7. Bush through down the Gauntlet last night
Its War
and so chaos comes to the World

Noone will be untouched
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:42 AM
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21. "Its (sic) War" - that seems a bit over the top
It could be a simple electrical or gas problem for all we know at this point.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:10 AM
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8. I'm glad my son's plans to visit Athens fell through...
I'm not sure where he would have visited; but I'm glad he's not there...
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:41 AM
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83. He missed visiting a great city
Shame he missed out on Athens.
(Can't get scared off visiting the world - although it is harder to be an American abroad thanks to BushCo. Still - there is always the opportunity to spread good will by apologizing for the BEE and establishing a personal counterpoint to evil and terror. )
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:30 PM
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103. Oh, I doubt it's scared him off...
and I certainly want to encourage him to travel. I'm just glad he wasn't there at the time. He had planned to be there this week...
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:11 AM
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9. I sure hope nobody was injured or killed.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:12 AM
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12. BBC said it was before dawn, so hopefully not.
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G Hawes Donating Member (440 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:34 AM
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17. Good point on the time
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 12:39 AM by G Hawes
It's not likely that there would be many people around in the pre-dawn, so fingers crossed on no casualties.

And it's more likely to turn out to be an electrical or gas related explosion, as opposed to a bomb or anything nefarious, so that bodes well for few if any casualties in conjunction with the pre-dawn time of the incident, too.



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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:38 AM
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20. Marines guard our embassies 24 hours a day
If no one is hurt, it's a miracle. But don't forget that Europe is where al Qaeda has its more dangerous affiliates.
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:44 AM
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22. Absolutely true
There are MSGs, communications officers, security officers and consular officers who are working shifts at the embassy.

God, please let them be safe.
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
44. I doubt a terrorist bomb would be set to blow during the wee hours...
A gas explosion makes more sense. Hopefully that's the case.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:12 AM
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11. damn it all
I pray no one was seriously hurt
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OSX Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:17 AM
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15. Oh, Great. Were going to invade Greece...
-osx
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:21 AM
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16. Maybe Greece and Persia (Iran) would become allies then
Just imagine, Bush the uniter would be able to say he brought history's oldest enemies together.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:34 AM
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18. Direct from Reuters:
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:38 AM
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19. More info. continues to be added to that story...
so keep checking it once and a while for more info.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:45 AM
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23. Hezbollah?
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 12:45 AM by mzmolly
My gawd.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:55 AM
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35. They aren't active anywhere near Greece
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 01:55 AM by ButterflyBlood
Most likely either a remnant of the 17N or ELS groups or some al-Qaeda cell. This isn't a very al-Qaedish way to do an attack though.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:19 AM
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48. Agreed, this isn't an al-Qaeda-like attack
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 05:20 AM by Aya Reiko
They prefer to go big, real big, and with civilian casualties. They do things that won't be forgotten within a week.

This won't stop Chimpy & Faux News from pinning it on them anyway.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #35
95. I've heard they have networks all over the world?
But, I don't know much about them, so I shall defer to those who do. :hi:
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:55 PM
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97. It's a Lebanese group
They've done actions in other countries, but if they did decide to attack a US embassy, they would definitely pick one closer to home.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:10 PM
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99. Wouldn't have the psycological impact if it was close to home.
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 02:11 PM by mzmolly
I heard that Iran has 50,000 suicide bombers ready to "strike." And, Bush is inspiring them it would appear? I mistook that to mean Hezbollah, perhaps this is something entirely different?

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:25 PM
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100. Hezbollah is an Iranian-funded but not Iranian group
And that claim (which I'm sure is exaggerated by them, but whatever), pretty much proves this wasn't them, since this wasn't a suicide attack.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:30 PM
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102. Gotcha.
I heard this on Matthews, and wondered what they were discussing as I came in late. Here's a bit of info:

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/16/590/23819
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:04 AM
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24. BBC World Service Radio just reported it was a terrorist attack
using something like a RPG fired from ground level into an upper level.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:13 AM
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27. 1996 it got hit by a rocket too. BBC says rocket now also.
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 01:26 AM by uppityperson
The embassy in Athens was the target of a rocket-propelled grenade attack on February 15, 1996. That attack caused minor damage.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/90046/Breaking_Blast_rips_through_U_S_embassy_in_Athens


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6254399.stm
Police said a small rocket-propelled grenade or similar device was fired into the front of the embassy. (now)
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:07 AM
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25. from AP
ATHENS, Greece (AP)_Greece officials say there are indications that blast at U.S. Embassy in Athens was caused by a rocket.
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:11 AM
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26. Anyone here surprised at the attack?
My only surprise is that they didn't take the whole thing down.

I think I know how anti-Nazi Germans might have felt seeing the advance of Soviet troops. The guys coming at you are bad guys. You love your home and your family and you fear for their safety. But at the same time you know full well your nation instigated the war and has no moral grounds to stand on.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:15 AM
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28. From AFP
http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/070112060438.v8rd5kg1.html

One witness said the blast hit in the courtyard near the embassy's front entrance.

"The explosion sounded in the courtyard, then a fire broke out over the central entrance, where the emblem is situated," a Greek motorist told private Skai radio.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:28 AM
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29. BBC says rocket
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6254399.stm
An explosion has hit the US embassy compound in the centre of the Greek capital, Athens.

Police said a small rocket-propelled grenade or similar device was fired into the front of the embassy.

Fire engines and police cordoned off the area around the fortified building. The US State Department said there were no injuries.

The BBC correspondent in Athens says the US embassy is often the target of small-scale attacks by radical groups. Many of the attacks are carried out by small groups following in the footsteps of the disbanded November 17 terrorist group, says the BBC's Malcolm Brabant. ...(more)
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:31 AM
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30. Reuters update on rocket
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2007-01-12T061747Z_01_L12389479_RTRUKOC_0_US-GREECE-EXPLOSION.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C1-TopStories-newsOne-2
Attackers fired a rocket at the U.S. embassy in Athens on Friday but no one was hurt, police and the U.S. embassy said.

Greek anti-terrorist officers were on the scene.

"This was a rocket attack launched from a building across the street. It landed inside a toilet on the third floor of the embassy," a senior police official told Reuters.

"There are no injuries from the blast," a U.S. embassy spokesman said...(more)
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:59 AM
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37. "No injuries" is fantastic news
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 02:00 AM by Bucky
Let's be grateful. A launched rocket attack would probably have been improvised--perhaps a reaction to the Iranian consular office seizure yesterday, if not the surge...
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:40 AM
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31. False flag anyone?
Hmm, who we going to pin this one on. Begins with an I, ends with an N, no wait, begins with an S, end with an A.

Christ on a stick! When will these sick fucks ever stop?
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:10 AM
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39. Saudi Arabia???
:crazy:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:53 AM
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41. To be pinned on Greek anti-war folks (aka terrorist enablers)
Giving the Greek RW an excuse to take away some freedoms for which the terrorists hate the Greek.

The RW/corporatists and CIA elements have quite a history in Greece.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio

Greece

The aim of British Prime minister Winston Churchill was to prevent the communist-led EAM resistance movement from taking power after the end of World War II. After the suppression of a pro-EAM uprising in April 1944 among the Greek forces in Egypt, a new and firmly reliable unit was formed, the III Greek Mountain Brigade, which excluded "almost all men with views ranging from moderately conservative to left wing"<26> After liberation in October 1944, EAM controlled most of the country. When it organized a demonstration in Athens on December 3, 1944 against British interference, members of rightist and pro-royalist paramilitary organizations, as well as "British troops and police with machine guns... posited on the rooftops", suddenly shot on the crowd, killing 25 protesters (including a six-year-old boy) and wounding 148.<27> This marked the outbreak of the Dekemvriana, and subsequently led to the Greek Civil War.

When Greece joined NATO in 1952, the country's special forces, the LOK (Lochoi Oreinōn Katadromōn, i.e. "Mountain Raiding Companies") were integrated into the European stay-behind network. The CIA and LOK reconfirmed on March 25, 1955 their mutual cooperation in a secret document signed by US General Trascott for the CIA, and Konstantinos Dovas, chief of staff of the Greek military. In addition to preparing for a Soviet invasion, the CIA instructed LOK to prevent a leftist coup. Former CIA agent Philip Agee, who was sharply criticized in the US for having revealed sensitive information, insisted that "paramilitary groups, directed by CIA officers, operated in the sixties throughout Europe perhaps no activity of the CIA could be as clearly linked to the possibility of internal subversion."<28>

The LOK was involved in the Greek military coup d'Etat on April 20, 1967, which took place one month before the scheduled national elections for which opinion polls predicted an overwhelming victory of the left-leaning Center Union of George and Andreas Papandreou. Under the command of paratrooper Lieutenant Colonel Costas Aslanides, the LOK took control of the Greek Defence Ministry while Brigadier General Sylianos Pattakos gained control over communication centers, the parliament, the royal palace, and according to detailed lists, arrested over 10,000 people. Phillips Talbot, the US ambassador in Athens, disapproved of the military coup which established the "Regime of the Colonels" (1969-1974), complaining that it represented "a rape of democracy" - to which Jack Maury, the CIA chief of station in Athens, answered: "How can you rape a whore?".<14>

Arrested and then exiled in Canada and Sweden, Andreas Papandreou later returned to Greece, where he won the 1981 election for Prime minister, forming the first socialist government of Greece's post-war history. According to his own testimony, he discovered the existence of the secret NATO army, then codenamed "Red Sheepskin", as acting prime minister in 1984 and had given orders to dissolve it.

Following Giulio Andreotti's revelations in 1990, the Greek defence minister confirmed that a branch of the network, known as Operation Sheepskin, operated in his country until 1988.<29> The socialist opposition called for a parliamentary investigation into the secret army and its alleged link to terrorism and the 1967 coup d'état. Public order minister Yannis Vassiliadis declared that there was no need to investigate such "fantasies" as "Sheepskin was one of 50 NATO plans which foresaw that when a country was occupied by an enemy there should be an organised resistance. It foresaw arms caches and officers who would form the nucleus of a guerilla war. In other words, it was a nationally justifiable act."
...
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #31
55. So much wrong with your post.
I don't know what's more offensively stupid, the mindless thrusting of conspiracy theory as a first resort, or the distasteful religious slur at the end.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:20 AM
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57. then again, it perfectly fits the historic record
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:23 AM
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58. Yeah because there's never been
an actual attack on any US holding except, of course, by the US. :eyes: Tell me again how that "perfectly fits the historic record."
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:34 AM
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59. history of false-flag operations
The whole point of false-flag ops is to make it look as though it is an attack by an external enemy.


Start with "Gladio"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio
(never mind wiki, mind the sources that the article references)


and mind the BBC:
"Gladio" (1992)
(3 parts)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7596207486200017796&q=gladio
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:25 PM
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111. But it makes no sense here.
The Cold War is over. The Greek military can take care their own security. No one will be calling for the U.S. to come in and "help" them. And why would they pin the attack on leftists, anyways? This attack helps no side.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:44 AM
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119. Cold war is over, welcome War on Terror
Edited on Sat Jan-13-07 07:46 AM by rman
Different name, different 'enemy', same scheme.

Leftists tend to oppose the war on terror, and are thus not "with us" - according to Bush, and he and his neocon gang call the shots these days.

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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:59 PM
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126. Yes, I'm sure that
squashing Greek leftists (especially a group that was already discredited as a terrorist organization in the '90s) is an integral policy for PNAC's plan of world domination.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:59 AM
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129. You think 'PNAC' is going to leave certain terrorist groups alone?
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:01 PM
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134. Greek leftists?
Yes, and I'm sure that PNAC is also raring to go mess with Shining Path, the Aryan Nations, the Japanese Red Army, Kahane Chai, and all the other washed-up insignificant terrorist factions of yesteryear...
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:36 AM
Response to Reply #134
136. Anti-war movement
Those who are not "with us."

It's been pretty well established that RW extremists aren't nearly as interesting to this admin as Left-wingers are.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #31
86. ....when the money lords and the greed heads start running
for their fucking sorry ass life. Not hard to figure out jocko!!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #31
87. Greek Communists?
nt
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:42 AM
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32. and so it begins.
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The Animator Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:44 AM
Response to Original message
33. What are the odds of a rocket landing in a toilet?
That's just... wow.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:51 AM
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34. Remember this isn't the first attack on the Athens embassy
There was a similar one in 1996. Greece has quite a few local radical groups.

Sounds like no one was even hurt. Good thing there at least.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:40 AM
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40. Sky News are reporting that a leftist group has claimed responsibility
They're apparently called "Revolution Action" or something like that (I was channel surfing) and they're a leftist group that apparently haven't done much before.

Now, maybe I'm being cynical here (or more cynical than usual anyway) but this strikes me as a false flag op. If a terrorist group demands something, most normal people instinctively shift in the opposite direction. If a terrorist group demands a leftward shift in policy, then people are instinctively going to shift to the right (and let's not even get into the "appeasing terrorists" stuff). So the people with most to gain from this kind of action are right-wing groups, it's just a question of who.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:56 AM
Response to Reply #40
42. see, Gladio all over again
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #42
93. So you think Greek Communist radical groups never existed?
I know about Gladio, but it's pretty stupid to blame EVERY terrorist act in Greece on them. This knee-jerk tinfoil tendency on DU is the main reason why this site has such a poor reputation outside of it.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:56 PM
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98. Seen in the light of Gladio any 'radical' leftist group is a lot less radical
than they were made out to be. Because at the time it was not public knowledge that RW stay-behind groups were doing terrorist attacks and blaming it on the Left.

Any attack anonymously claimed by a Leftist group is exceedingly suspect to be yet another false-flag op.

Also if you know about Gladio it provides no basis to conclude that Greek (or any) Communist 'radical' groups "never existed" - which is why i do not claim such. Your concluding that i do claim such is meaningless.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. I don't see how you can get any more radical than pro-Soviet communists
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 02:29 PM by ButterflyBlood
But my point more is that it's rather silly to jump to conclusions and blame the attack on Gladio, especially since Gladio is more-or-less defunct and has been ever since the Cold War ended in a country that has several of these attacks every year.

Any attack anonymously claimed by a Leftist group is exceedingly suspect to be yet another false-flag op.

So that includes every single such attack listed here? http://tkb.org/IncidentRegionModule.jsp?countryid=GR&pagemode=incident&startDate=01/01/1968&endDate=01/12/2007®ionid=3&filter=0&detail=0&setFilter=1&suiInt=0&domInt=0&info=Greece&info1=3

Note that the vast majority of those are relatively recent.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #101
107. How are pro-Soviet communists radical?
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 03:41 PM by mhatrw
Politically radical, yes. But what does that have to do with propensity for meaningless terrorist violence?

The fact of the matter is that this could have been done by a real never-before-heard-of "leftist" group or it could have been false flag (amateur or professional, btw) or it could have even been a lone nutcase.

Reasonable people will examine all possibilities. So what's with your knee jerk "blame the commies" thing?
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:28 PM
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112. But this false flag op would make no sense.
What's it supposed to do, get the Greek authorities to call for the U.S. to come and occupy and protect them? To give the U.S. an opportunity to wage war in the <i>Balkans</i>? This isn't a frightening attack, no one was hurt, maybe some security will be tightened around the embassy but that's about it. There's no rhyme or reason to falsify an attack and blame it on <i>Greek neo-communists</i>, of all terrorists.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #107
116. It's basically Occam's Razor
Such attacks are very common in Greece, mostly by discontent former members of old communist groups like 17N and ELS, who were in fact pro-Soviet communists with a propensity for meaningless terrorist violence. 10 years ago there was a similar attack on the embassy by 17N, so there's definitely a precedent. Plus attacks by never-before-heard of leftist "groups" are very common in Greece, it's just that these attacks are most likely the same people under different names or a lone nutcase using such a name. See the link I gave above: http://tkb.org/IncidentRegionModule.jsp?countryid=GR&pagemode=incident&startDate=01/01/1968&endDate=01/12/2007®ionid=3&filter=0&detail=0&setFilter=1&suiInt=0&domInt=0&info=Greece&info1=3

Also take a look at all the "groups" that have carried out attacks in Greece before: http://tkb.org/Category.jsp?catID=293

As for why I doubt it's a false-flag operation, well first of all it'd be a pretty damn lousy one. Drunk frat boys with lighters have done more damage than this attack. Second of all, what's the point? What does the US have to gain from blaming some small unknown commie group in Greece?
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #101
108. More radical is to perform terrorist attacks on national civilian targets,
which a clandestine RW/fascist intel network does for - in the name of fighting communism, to the benefit of a very wealthy and influential few who get more wealthy and influential at the expense of many others. Which is why they don't want an uprising of those many others, which doesn't really have anything to do with Stalinism (after all, there never actually was any communism in the USSR, nor in China for that matter).
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #108
113. Thanks, but
The Cold War is over. Thank you for playing. There's no reason for BushCo to pursue some strategy in control over Europe, where most of the people hates American military presence there, and the native forces are capable of stopping communist rebels anyways.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #113
121. Cold War is over, welcome War on Terror
Different name, same scheme.
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #121
124. But Greece has nothing to do with it
The people are mostly anti-America foreign policy, and suspicious of our dealings with the Turks, a <i>Muslim</i> country. To think that the U.S. has anything to gain there by contriving this weak attack is simply ludicrous.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #124
131. LOL. The whole world has something to do with it.
Corporatists have something to gain wherever there are is any opposition to corporatism.

In this case it's obviously not about Greece as a whole but about those elements in Greece that oppose US imperialism.
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #131
132. You sound more and more like a FReeper infiltrator with each post
designed to discredit DU. <i>Agent provocateur</i>.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #132
139. What's provocative about saying
"Corporatists have something to gain wherever there is any opposition to corporatism."

and/or

"In this case it's obviously not about Greece as a whole but about those elements in Greece that oppose US imperialism."

How could any of those statements discredit DU?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #108
117. OK, but what's relevant about a defunct Cold War intel network today?
n/t
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #117
120. Cold war is over, welcome War on Terror
Different name, same scheme.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #120
123. Except Greece is not a key location in it
n/t
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #123
130. Not key, but it's a location
Don't you agree?
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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:06 AM
Response to Reply #40
46. Not a bad theory...
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 04:07 AM by Nabeshin
If it was a bomb, that would explain why it exploded at a time when no one would be in the offices (hopefully). But if it wasn't a bomb, it could just be some jerkoffs claiming responsibility for the sake of attention.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:52 AM
Response to Reply #46
54. It was a rocket
Apparently it was a rocket fired from the street below although that doesn't really change the theory much. It happened at about six AM local time so if they just wanted the publicity for political benefit (ala my theory), that would be the time to do it.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #54
56. question is how they managed to hit a toilet on the 3rd floor
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 07:40 AM by rman
with a rocket fired from street level. It is possible if the toilet has a window facing the street. Alternatively it was bomb planted in advance and the rocket launcher is planted evidence.

on edit:
it now seems the rocket was fired from a building across the street
"This was a rocket attack launched from a building across the street." - Reuters
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #56
70. They were just trying to give proof throught the night that our flag was still there.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:17 AM
Response to Reply #40
79. By that logic ETA is opposed to Basque independence
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 09:18 AM by Freddie Stubbs
and the IRA wants Ulster to remain a part of the UK.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #79
109. Uhm no. It's FALSE flag - It means ETA and IRA are fake,
or that there are fake 'doppelgangers' of the original non-violent organizations, or at least those are infiltrated and instigated to perform violent attacks.

The point is to make an essentially non-violent resistance group look bad so that they'll lose popular support.
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #109
114. The IRA is fake?!?
That's news to me. Not to mention that there are all sorts of groups outside of Ireland, hell pubs in the U.S. for heaven's sake, that tacitly supported the IRA back in the day. And if the ETA really didn't perform violent attacks, why didn't their leadership denounce it? Spain's a free country.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #114
122. fake, OR
there are 'doppelgangers' of the original organizations

OR

the original organizations are infiltrated and instigated to perform violent attacks.


And yes it would be news to most people because obviously those behind these false-flag ops have a strong interest (and the means) to cover it up.
Ie in Belgium even the minister of defense at the time did not know about stay-behind groups within the Belgian military and intel agency. Similarly in the Netherlands, where a minister resigned over revelations of Gladio ("Gladius") activities in the Netherlands.
The whole point of it is to make it look as though resistance groups really are that extremist and violent. It would not work if we'd know they are only made to look that way.

see "Gladio" (BBC, 1992)
(3 parts)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7596207486200017796&q=gladio
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #122
125. You can't blame Gladio on EVERYTHING
The IRA is fake? That's news to all the Irishmen who supported/were killed by the IRA. That's like saying Operation: Desert Storm never happened.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #125
128. I never did say IRA does not exist, did i.
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #128
133. But you're sounding as if you believe that
they never committed any terrorist attacks.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #133
138. Depends on who you mean by "they"
If the attacks have been done by infiltrators of the IRA, or by a group that claims to be the IRA but isn't, then to what extend is it the IRA that has done those attacks?
All it takes is one anonymous phone call.
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #79
118. I know nothing about ETA
but it is a matter of historical record that the IRA was infiltrated by British intelligence and it's not much of a stretch to suppose that some IRA actions would have been directed for propoganda use.

Besides, it's just a theory.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #40
92. In Greece, such attacks are very common
Greece used to have two very large such groups called something like Revolutionary Organization of 17 November and ELS which is the acronym for the Greek words for Revolutionary Peoples' Struggle. Both groups are now defunct, but members are still around and discontent, and every now and then there'll be a pipe bombing or arson blamed on some "group" with a long pretentious name similar to that, that is the first time that "group" is ever heard of and usually the last. Just look at the listing here: http://tkb.org/Category.jsp?catID=293
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stratomagi Donating Member (811 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:57 AM
Response to Original message
43. Well there goes the we haven't been attacked since 9/11 argument.
Though it was a weak argument to begin with considering the Madrid and London bombings amongst other examples. But you know, allies don't count...and maybe this one won't count if it isn't al-Qaida. The spin could be endless. Still it goes to show you what happens when you stick a big kick me sign on your own back.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:05 AM
Response to Reply #43
45. It probably will count for something even if it isn't al-Qaida
remember what Bush said: "You're either with us or your with the terrorists".
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:33 AM
Response to Original message
47. So if someone attack our embassy it's terrorism
but when we attack someone else's embassy or consulate it's a justifiable act in the 'war on terra'.

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:40 AM
Response to Reply #47
53. Shhhhh!
You're not supposed to remember that ...
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:29 AM
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49. Rocket hits US embassy in Athens
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6254399.stm

Attackers have fired a rocket at the US embassy compound in the centre of the Greek capital, Athens.
The rocket, fired from street level into the front of the embassy, caused minor damage to the building but no-one was injured.

The US envoy condemned the "very serious attack", as fire engines and police cordoned off the area.

Police say they are investigating claims that a left-wing radical group was behind the attack.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #49
50. wow -- that'll wake you up.
i bet those embassy workers are wishing that bush would just shut the fuck up.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #49
63. left wing groups. more here:
Left-wing groups

The US embassy is one of the most fortified and tightly guarded buildings in the region and is frequently the target of protests in a country brimming with potent anti-Americanism, says the BBC's Malcolm Brabant in Athens.

In February 1996, it suffered minor damage when unknown attackers - thought to be leftist radicals - fired a rocket at it.

In the past, the far-left November 17 group - now disbanded and whose leaders were jailed in 2003 - attacked Greek, US and other foreign targets, killing more than 20 people.

Revolutionary Struggle - a group which emerged after November 17 disintegrated - is regarded by security experts as Greece's most active terrorist group, our correspondent says.

It has broadly the same left-wing, anarchic anti-capitalist agenda as November 17 and vigorously opposes America's intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as the economic and social policies of the current conservative Greek government. ....

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #63
64. " a country brimming with potent anti-Americanism,"
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #64
110. Well, something needs to be done about that then,
doesn't it.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 05:30 AM
Response to Original message
51. "explosion ripped through "
What kind of paper is the Daily Telegraph?
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #51
96. A right-wing one
In the UK, it is sometimes called "the house organ of the Conservative Party" or, more commonly, the "Daily Torygraph".
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:36 AM
Response to Original message
52. I hope the US warplanes don't bomb the Acropolis while aiming for these al-Qaeda dudes.
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 06:36 AM by pinniped
It's suffered enough damage over the ages.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:49 AM
Response to Original message
60. "No one could have predicted this".
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 07:49 AM by Tesha
Yes, I made that quote up. But dollars-to-donuts I'll
bet you someone says it before the day is out.

Tesha
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #60
66. Blast at U.S. embassy called 'terrorism' ( new Fri. am)


Blast at U.S. embassy called 'terrorism'
Enlarge Photo AFPAP - 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
ATHENS, Greece - The U.S. Embassy in Athens came under fire early Friday from a rocket that exploded inside the modern glass-front building but caused no casualties in an attack police suspect was the work of Greek leftists.

Slideshow: U.S. embassy attacked in Greece
Video: 'Serious Attack' on U.S. Embassy ABC News
Full Coverage: Athens Embassy Attack

http://news.yahoo.com/
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:12 AM
Response to Original message
67. I just saw a picture of the carnage...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16587785/ Oh the humanity! It looks like somebody threw a rock through the window.
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:15 AM
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68. "No blood for Baklava!"
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:18 AM
Response to Reply #68
69. That's cute.
Welcome to DU!:hi:
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #69
75. Thanks for the welcome.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
71. I'm going to guess that it is someone NOT happy
with our little visiting party on Iran's offices in Erbil. Anyone think that is the message?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #71
74. I do! I do!
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:09 AM
Response to Original message
77. CNN reporting that a rocket was fired at the embassy
from street level.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:17 AM
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78. NO INJURIES AND VERY MINIMAL DAMAGE
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 09:18 AM by mod mom
The small anti-tank missile narrowly missed the large blue-and-white U.S. seal on the embassy's facade and pierced the building above the front entrance shortly before 6 a.m. It damaged a bathroom on the third floor near the ambassador's office and shattered windows in nearby buildings.

"There were no injuries and very minimal damage," U.S. Ambassador Charles Ries told reporters outside the embassy.

-SNIP
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_re_eu/greece_us_embassy
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #78
80. Bastards!
> The small anti-tank missile narrowly missed the large blue-and-white
> U.S. seal on the embassy's facade ...

They're using RPGs to hunt seals now!
Thank God they missed!!

:silly:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:07 AM
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81. Does this mean we are going to bomb Greece back to the Parthenon age? nt
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 10:08 AM by Javaman
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #81
89. Well, the way Bush thinks, he probably bomb Venezuela for it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #89
91. LOL.
:rofl:

You made me spew!!! LOL :spray:
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dnbn Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:47 PM
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104. Actually Turkey.
It should be a regional enemy of the terrarists that still looks "similar".
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BestCenter Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:34 PM
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115. The funny thing is
Apparently there's a lot of anti-American sentiment in Greece because we are quite supportive of Turkey on issues such as Cyprus.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:33 AM
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85. Obviously these "terrorists" haven't read their history...
during Russia's invasion of Berlin during WWII, they would use abandoned panzerfausts left behind by the hitler youth to blow holes in walls during house to house fighting so as not to leave them exposed in street battles.

A great book called, "the battle of Berlin" describes exactly how to do it. LOL

Don't want to be to close to get shrapnel wounds or to far away to not blow a hole through the wall or in the worst case, have it bounce off and explode someplace else.

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:42 AM
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88. You let Rummy go and he lets the US have it!!!
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:52 AM
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90. Americans view all terrorists as Mideastern Islamics
connected with Al Queda thanks to Bushco's propaganda. That fact will continue to be a problem. Dollars to doughnuts the people responsible for the attack are Greek anti-fascists or communists, not Islamics.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 01:28 PM
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94. Reprisal from Iran?
We attacked one of their embassies the other day. And now one of ours mysteriously explodes.

Hmm.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 02:59 PM
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105. Guess this means that Bush can't say
we haven't been attacked on his watch, unless he finds a way to ignore this like he did Anthrax and the likes.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 03:21 PM
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106. "Hello? Is this the US embassy?"
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 03:22 PM by mhatrw
"I'd like to claim credit for the projectile that broke your window." ...

"No, I'd rather not tell you my name or anything about my organization. However, we wear Birkenstocks, we met up for Howard Dean in 2004 and Cindy Sheehan is our hero." ...

"Hmm, so it landed harmlessly in your toilet? Well, Mama told me the revolution would be a struggle!" ...

"No problem. Gladio to help."
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 07:04 PM
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127. 3 embassies have been attacked since Bush's Surge speech:
The Russian and the Iranian embassies in Iraq, and the US embassy in Greece. 6 hostages were taken in the Iranian embassy by US forces. Of course, the Bush Admin is now calling the Iranian embassy a "liason office" and its 5 hostages -- "detainees". Once again, Bush has sewn the seeds of a deeper and widening conflict. He is poking a stick in the eyes of the world.
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