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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:55 PM
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Mystery Sickness? Thousands of Birds Drop from Australian Sky
Wildlife authorities investigating why thousands of birds fell from the sky over a town in remote southwestern Australia have ruled out infectious diseases but are no closer to figuring out what killed them, a state official said Friday.

Around 5,000 birds have been found dead in Esperance, Western Australia, since mid-December, according to Nigel Higgs, spokesman for the state's Department of Environment and Conservation.

The birds were mostly nectar- and insect-eating species, although some seagulls also have been found, Higgs said in a telephone interview from his office in the Western Australia capital, Perth.

Pathologists at the Western Australia Department of Agriculture examined several of the carcasses, and have ruled out the virulent H5N1 bird flu virus and other infectious diseases.

"It may be an environmental toxin. It may be an agricultural or industrial toxin. We just can't be specific," Higgs said.

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5931920&nav=1TjD
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:57 PM
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1. Canaries in a coal mine? nt
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:58 PM
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3. Why is this happening everywhere?
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 07:00 PM
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4. Coincidence? Bushy eyebrows raising, "I think not!"
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 07:02 PM by VegasWolf
Yes, this is appearing on a global scale. Something is amiss.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:03 AM
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13. Makes one wonder, doesn't it?
Has there been any further explanation?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 06:58 PM
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2. Red death raining down.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:23 PM
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5. If migration routes are disrupted, or nesting grounds polluted or destroyed,
the birds will fly to exhaustion, looking for reasonable habitat to nest in, or in confusion about where they are, and what the season is. So it could be exhaustion. Global warming itself is radically altering temperatures in the ocean, air and land, and changing the weather. Birds are extremely sensitive to weather and its patterns. Weather triggers their migrations. Birds may navigate by the stars (I'm trying to remember the latest studies--also, they have an inner compass, tuned to the poles), and if they thus migrate along the same paths, and return to the same nesting sites--guided by the stars, or the poles--but conditions are radically altered--it's too cold, or too hot, or food sources ripen too late or too early, they are stranded, and a flock of them might take off in confusion, get lost and fall out of the sky from hunger, stress and exhaustion. Add to this the wanton destruction of habitat by our global corporate predators--the destroyers of forests, the polluters, the strip-miners, the real estate developers--and you greatly increase the amount of birds that, essentially, can't find "home."

Alarming prediction: The World Wildlife Fund gives us 50 years to the death of the planet--at present levels of consumption, deforestation and pollution. These birds falling out of the sky could well be the "canaries in the coal mine," telling us of extreme disruptions in earth's atmosphere and biosphere. We have gravely disturbed the "web of life" on planet earth with our last hundred years of evolution into an industrial society. Scientists have been warning of this for some time--chronicling the decline of biodiversity (loss of whole species), polluted water and other impacts. But global warming may be the capper--the final blow that causes mass dieoffs. When you disrupt nature to this degree, and this quickly, nature has no time to recover; species have no time to adapt; and the resources that WE depend on--farm lands, ocean fisheries, clean water, breathable air--are intimately connected to the elements of "wild" nature that are suffering major impacts. For instance, trees hold the CO2 that we are pouring into the atmosphere from fossil fuels. When we cut them down, we not only cause flooding and other serious impacts, we reduce the ability of the air to cleanse itself. And the weather disruption will then add drought to the farmer's woes. One year, catastrophic floods; the next year, severe drought. Two seasons of crops lost. Or those five thousand birds carry seeds that grow plants that may feed entirely different species that may be the birds that control insects on farm land. Add pests to the farmer's troubles. It is truly a "web of life" involving intricacies that we barely understand--microbial life, fungi, seeds, millions of different plants and animals, all interacting and interdependent. Trash one filament of the web, and it ripples throughout. Trash many filaments--as we are doing--and you may pull down the entire web.

I've seen these considerations regarding the delicate balance in forest ecosystems utterly disregarded in the state of California, as it has permitted large corporate interests to destroy the last of the redwood forests--and California is considered a progressive state supposedly with "tough" environmental laws. Big logging corporations have literally ripped the web of life in redwood forests to pieces, and now, one of the main species in these forests--the oak trees--are suffering something called "sudden oak death syndrome," caused by some sort of fungi that can be tracked around by loggers' boots and the tires of logging vehicles. The tree just suddenly dies--and this is occurring massively. It is a major dieoff. But why did it happen? Why are trees that have thrived in redwood forests and nearby woodlands and meadows for thousands of years suddenly subject to this disease? We allow radical alteration of these ecosystems--and then wonder why disease strikes? But common sense never enters into global corporate policy. They have the money, the power, the political clout, to defy both science and common sense, and all attempts to regulate them. They say forests are a "renewable" resource. But obviously they are not. We are killing networks of life and are killing off many species, that perform functions that we have almost no knowledge of. If it were a few trees, that would be one thing. But corporate loggers cut down acres and acres and acres of trees. They kill all habitat within those acres--microbes, fungi, mice, spiders, beetles, snakes, grasses, herbs, as well as the larger more dramatic species like birds--with vast clear-cuts, then they go in and poison the place with herbicides to kill the non-commercial trees and "weeds." Then they plant the commercial species (redwoods, Doug fir), but the forest--or should I say, tree farm--that grows up barely resembles the forest that was there, that may have been growing and thriving in that network of life for 500 up to a 2,000 years. None of this matters to the corporate loggers or to the politicians in Sacramento, who only see this year's or next years dollars. They see the money value of a particular species and ignore all the rest. And, not incidentally, the trees that they grow up in these tree farms are significantly inferior to old growth trees--they make weak, pulpy and disease-prone wood; they grow too fast; builders call it "yellow redwood"--good for fence posts or pulp--not the gorgeous, fine-grained redwood of old, which was impervious to disease, insects and fire.

There is virtually no wood that you can buy any more whose harvesting is not destroying the planet. The so-called "green forestry" of the Forest Stewardship Council, for instance, is total B.S. They clear-cut, they use poisons--on a large scale. They merely put a "green label" on typical corporate practices on the promise of reform in the future. It's a scam, now tied to the World Bank and the exploitation of third world countries.

This catastrophic decline in the quality of wood is harbinger of an even more serious decline in the quality of the network of life that sustains us all. We see this decline throughout the planet, in many species and ecosystems, and in many manifestations--and it is all caused by us, and our insatiable appetite for profit and for growth--or rather, mostly by the insatiable greed of the few. A whole new economy COULD BE created for truly "green" products--and truly fair trade--and many people are working on this, but the current global corporate predators, with their money and political clout, block reform and large-scale change. It all comes back to that, and to my mantra--election reform, starting with throwing these Bushite electronic voting corporations out of our election system. They are inflicting us with horrible leaders, and are preventing a change of course.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 11:41 PM
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12. Yes, this is such a travesty. All these wonderful species will be gone.
Edited on Fri Jan-12-07 11:42 PM by goforit
Time is short and we as humanity have to grow up!

Bush and Cheney's policies have to come to a halt.

Very well stated Peace Patriot. Thanks.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 08:51 AM
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14. "The World Wildlife Fund gives us 50 years to the death
of the planet"

Great just when (in 25 years or so) nano technology is supposed to be able to greatly increase our lifespans to perhaps 150 years or longer.


Why do Aces allways come on the flop when I have pocket Kings? Cause poker, like life, ain't always fair.
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:30 PM
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6. That's pretty scary
I hope it's not some kind of portent of impending doom.

I'm not a big believer in the bible but if that Revelation stuff starts coming true, I'm gonna freak.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 08:43 PM
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7. Bad ecological sign
hopefully somebody will figure out what is going on
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 09:59 PM
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8. This is curious
From 1994
emphasis added:
Wildlife advocates also have cause to be concerned. The HAARP site lies 140 miles north of the town of Cordova on Prince William Sound, on the northwest tip of Alaska's Wrangell-St. Elias National Park. Since ordinary radar is known to be deadly to low- flying birds, HAARP's powerful radiation beam could pose a problem for migratory birds because the transmitter stands in the path of the critical Pacific Flyway. In addition, HAARP's ability to generate strong magnetic fields could conceivably interfere with the migration of birds, marine life and Arctic animals that are now known to rely on the Earth's magnetic fields to navigate over long distances.

http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/guns_and_weapons/haarpeij.html


I've seen a few more recent references online to radar being used to track birds, but I didn't know radar was dangerous to birds. In an attempt to track this down, I note that microwaves are right above radar waves in the frequency spectrum. There seem to be plenty of indications that microwaves have well known dangers, yet it's curious there are very few sites stating any kind of danger from "radar", never mind the more specific case of dangers to birds, most references suggest that its harmless.

Perhaps "radar" is a generalized term for equipment that may use frequencies outside of the strict definition of the radar frequency range, or perhaps there's been some Google bombing by the government, part of information warfare and psyops?

This page states much of the dangers of radar and microwaves has been classified by the military:


Microwaves can be very powerful, but they do not break up the electronic structure of individual atoms or molecules. In other words, they are "non-ionizing." For that reason, they have widely been presumed not to injure human beings. The same was said of radar during the Second World War, in spite of the fact that it could heat tissue. Technicians became flushed or experienced headaches. Similar symptoms had been observed with patients undergoing diathermy treatment. Studies on rabbits, however, showed radar's dangers: They developed eye cataracts.

http://www.peacemagazine.org/archive/v03n3p09.htm


I can't imagine a world without birds, nor would I want to.
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:10 PM
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9. Esperance again?
Damn, that place is cursed right now! They just had a 'perfect storm' there two weeks back. They have also had mass strandings of seal pups (http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=146&ContentID=18408)

Went there once - still recall the abandoned whale processing port. It still stank and they hadn't used it for years and years. Gave me the heebie-jeebies, too.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:27 PM
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10. I am going to guess some mass air disturbance
and I am thinking natural (although creepy)...

something like two fronts happen to hit one another and the birds were overwhelmed by pressure ..etc

(just an uneducated biological guess)

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arikara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-12-07 10:46 PM
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11. There was another thread posted on this
It got moved to the dungeon of 9-11 because we were discussing a no-no as a possible contributing factor. I'm not going to mention what it was because this topic deserves to be seen by all. Too bad it can't be discussed fully.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x133760

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