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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:55 AM
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bush* Greets Saddam Capture as 'Enchanting Day'
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=716&e=13&u=/nm/20031214/ts_nm/iraq_usa_bush_dc

<snip>WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a major coup for his beleaguered Iraq (news - web sites) campaign, President Bush (news - web sites) on Sunday reveled in the capture of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) as an "enchanting day" for the Iraqi people and final proof their long-time leader was gone.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters Bush was calling world leaders, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites), and would speak to the American people from the White House at noon.


But Bush aides cautioned that the dramatic military operation that netted Saddam after a massive manhunt probably would not end the guerrilla insurgency against the U.S. occupation.


"The Iraqi people can finally be assured that Saddam Hussein will not be coming back. They can see it for themselves," McClellan told reporters.

Bush was informed just before dawn on Sunday that U.S. troops had captured the ousted Iraqi dictator near his home town of Tikrit.

"The message to the Iraqi people is that the blanket of fear is beginning to lift," a senior White House official said.

Capturing Saddam represents a major victory for the president, who is seeking reelection next year, and could boost his standing in the polls.


But the official cautioned: "There are unfortunately still people in Iraq who have no future because their loyalties are to Saddam. We expect they will continue to fight to the death."

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marigold20 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:01 AM
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1. What an odd choice of words
Now I've got "Some Enchanted Evening" running through my mind.

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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:15 PM
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15. Truly an odd choice
unlike the ones I'll be using when he is deposed. More like ecstatic and giddy with excitement.

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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:05 AM
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2. I thought they were trying to get him to stop using those...
...Kennebunkport words like 'enchanting' and 'fabulous'.

Looks like Karl has to bring that speech coach back in.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:10 AM
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6. Sounds like
a gay guy. Enchanting!!!Fabulous!!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 AM
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3. Enchanting????
Weird choice of descriptive wording, imo. How the heck does "enchanting" fit into this?

Definition of enchanting

Main Entry: en·chant
Pronunciation: in-'chant, en-
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French enchanter, from Latin incantare, from in- + cantare to sing -- more at CHANT
Date: 14th century
1 : to influence by or as if by charms and incantation : BEWITCH
2 : to attract and move deeply : rouse to ecstatic admiration <the scene enchanted her to the point of tears -- Elinor Wylie>
synonym see ATTRACT
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:52 AM
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13. Given the intensity of the spin today...
...I'd say that definition number 1 is spot on:

1 : to influence by or as if by charms and incantation : BEWITCH

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:07 AM
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4. Chimpy* has a Major Problem with enchantment
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 11:13 AM by SpiralHawk
And I do not mean just the Occult Enchantments of the Skull & Boner secret lodge that he and his father belong to at the elite Eastern Yale University that they both attended, or the Evil Enchanting Curse of the Butcher of Babalonand his drooling subhuman minions; nor do I mean the Kink-O-Sex-O Enchantments of BFEE power brokers who pee on the trees at Bohemian Grove.

No, what I mean is this unforgiveable insult to my state:

"We've had a great weekend here in the Land of the Enchanted."
- George W. Bush* Albuquerque, N.M., May 12, 2003
(New Mexico's correct state nickname is "Land of Enchantment.")

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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:08 AM
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5. b f d!!!
so what the eff has that got to do with anything!!
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:19 PM
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17. Just everything, scarface
I mean, are you a patriotic American or what?

Go Patriots !
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:10 AM
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7. I'll bet the estimated numbers of Saddam Loyalist jumps dramatically
based on that last line of your post.
Remember how they used to try to down play that group?
They have got to find a legitimate reason for prolong the "occupation".
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:21 AM
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8. I believe you are correct....
All the Iraqi Resistance Fighters will be labeled "loser saddam loyalists" by the corporate whore media from here on out....
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:33 AM
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9. Maybe God told him to say "enchanting."
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:34 AM
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10. Wonder what Bush would call a pit bull dog fight?
That was really a stange word to use.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:36 AM
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11. The Bush (mis)speak daily calendar may end up with this
A whole year of daily "cute" Bush (mis)speaks or weird word choices. The Republicans think it's just fine to have our country represented by a person with an advanced degree can't talk right....go figure!
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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:42 AM
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12. some good news instead of those depressing tales of
dead GI's
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:08 PM
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14. But I have to ask the most famous of all questions.
Where are the WMD? That was the reason for going to war, he was a threat to the U.S. and /or its allies with his WMD. Resoultion 1441 was based on WMD. Weapons inspectors were sent there to find WMD. Intelligence was gathered to support the claim of WMD. Iraq was required to turn over an inventory of weapons to the U.N. The Congress gave permission for war based on the threat of WMD. None of these things were based on per capita camel population, the weather in China or capturing Saddam Hussein. The first time he comes out and says that we are victorius, we have won, we have accomplished our OBJECTIVES, we need to remind him of what those objectives were.

Hussein may have been his objective, but it was not the reason we went to war. As Wolfowitz said in the Vanity Faire article in June of this year WMD was the buerocratic reason that everybody could settle on. Plan B was in place, the restriction on the CIA was lifted. They are now free to assinate other heads of state. Bush removed the restriction, Carter put it in place. If he could not sell this thing to the U.S. population on WMD and 9/11 then I think they would have went to plan B. Since the world had empathy for us after 9/11 he went to work pushing for war with Iraq and he brought up 9/11 at every turn. IMHO if 9/11 had not brought the response that it did Plan B would have been activated.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:17 PM
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16. Amen, James
We have to keep asking it and asking it more often.

Saddam's capture doesn't change shit about the deception they perpetrated or the real reasons they took our troops there.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:34 PM
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18. Did Saddam have three million jobs in his pocket?
Did he have an actual reason for this war with him? Do you think there's an exit plan hidden in the farmhouse too?

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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:07 PM
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25. Dupe n/t
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:10 PM by jokerman2004
n/t
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:07 PM
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26. Funny How it turns out Saddam
was complying with 1441 after all, it would seem. Bushco was wrong, wrong, wrong about WMD.

Can't spin it that screw-up. Gotta change the discourse and make people remember that it was always really about that terrible dictator Saddam.

Changing the past in Amrikaland, land of the enchanted, is apparently a fairly easy thing to do these days, it turns out.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:49 PM
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19. bush* handed great PR opportunity...
..on a silver platter, and he ruins it by opening his mouth and saying something Sociopathic, and JPS (Just Plain Stupid)!

In highschool, we said guys like this could F**K UP a wetdream!

What a MAROON!
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:11 PM
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20. Did Anyone Else Catch That Bush Was Not Excited As Would Be Expected?
I'm thinking that Bush and crew are not happy that Saddam was captured. This kind of fucked up their October surprise. HMMM so who would be pissed enough at Bush to expose Saddam now?

I think it must be Putin. Frosting old Vlad with a no no for reconstruct bids and flaming the fire with will you please excuse debts with Iraq must have set his little KGB heart spinning.

I think he leaked the information that lead to SH's capture because he knew it would destroy Bush in November. The deaths are going to escalate. No WMDs are going to be found. And Chimps window of opportunity to capitalize on this event are long gone.

Ah Vlad when he looked into your soul did he see that you were going to fuck him up the ass?

Just my opinion but it looks to me like Bush just got blindsided.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:02 PM
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30. I noticed this AM that this story broke from the Iranian News.....
not Faux, MSRNC or CNN but an Iranian news source. I believe that chimpco* had no intention of letting this out quite yet....
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:41 PM
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21. Not bad.
3 years and the chimp has finally worked his way to the E's.

It is progress after all. Three years ago he would have been jumping up on down on his desk beating his chest and yelling "USA! USA! USA!"

Kudos to whomever gave him that dictionary for Christmas 2000!



Cost of the war as of 12/13/03 10:44 PST

$90,133,314,222

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Rainbows Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:09 PM
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27. Thank You Tinoire ...
You pictorial has made my day. :)
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:06 PM
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31. Anytime :)
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:50 PM
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22. What's wrong with him?
There's a kind of "clanging" quality to his speech. He's going along and all at once there's something that doesn't fit. Something oddly incongrous.

It's like a sci-fi novel where an extra-terrestrial is trying to infiltrate a particular society but then shows himself to be not one of them by some subtle misstep involving use of the language.

In this case it's that lack of understanding of the nuance of language that trips him up. Out of all the adjectives available, "enchanting" is not one that comes to mind in this context. He just can't access the appropriate words for some reason.

And here's another thing. I don't know if anyone else here has noticed this. His pronunciation of the word "a". As it stands, here, we would pronounce it as "ay".

But listen to yourself speak. In conversation or reading aloud we tend to say "uh" the majority of the time. When Bush speaks, however, (or reads from a teleprompter) it sounds like what children who are just learning to read do. Reading each word in isolation, with no sense of how what comes before and after changes the pronunciation. It's always "ay" even where the context is totally incongrous.

Someone here please listen closely the next time he speaks and tell me what you think.

I believe there is some kind of organicity going on.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 03:29 PM
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29.  junior is a ture idiot and wise ones use the cover as dyslexia!
I certainly can't watch him or the folks that praise him after he speaks.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:50 PM
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23. Double post.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 01:53 PM by truth2power
Gotta keep my fingers off that mouse button after I hit "post". Good grief!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:58 PM
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24. Hello!!! Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11!!!
and never has!!! who gives a rats ass if Saddam was captured????????????we should have never pre emptively struck Iraq in the first place HELOOOOOOOOOO Saddam was Rumsfield's buddy and was a puppet of the US govt...
all the truth about this war for PNAC will be lost in the Horseshit..
and my stepson will go over there to make wealthy men rich.
But the ignorant US public will ignore the TRUTH.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:56 PM
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28. He identifies the terrorists on the WH site
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/20031214-3.html
snip>
I also have a message for all Americans: The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq. We still face terrorists who would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the rise of liberty in the heart of the Middle East.
end snip>

Are attacks on the invaders in the occupation army "terrorism"?

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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:10 PM
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32. What? No "Christmas came early"?
The machine is sputtering: I was expecting to hear something along the lines of "Christmas came early for the Iraqi people".

BTW, whatever happened to Noriega?

linda
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Manix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:39 PM
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33. The Crawford Coward has learned a new word!!
nt
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 12:21 AM
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34. "the blanket of fear is beginning to lift???"---as if
They're making it out to sound as if Saddam Hussein has continued his reign this whole time and now that he's captured everything's all happily ever after !!
It will soon be apparent that the RESISTANCE has nothing to do with Saddam Hussein.

There are plenty of bad dictators in this world.
They only become important when their country has something U.S. corporations want.
N0 WMD's, No Threat to any of his neighbors, third rate army, But LOTS and LOTS of crude!!
These corporations have the right to use U.S. troops to carve up and occupy a coutry that never posed a threat to us or anyone else?
Why don't we hear talk about the fact that these troops' deaths are unjustified.

Who cares about Saddam?
What about this country's self appointed misLeader.
As bad if not worse than any eeevil dick tater.




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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-03 01:47 AM
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35. "Enchanting" now swept under rug
Same Yahoo link now reads:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites), cautiously marking a major milestone in the Iraq (news - web sites) war, said on Sunday that Saddam Hussein (news - web sites)'s capture was "the end of the road for him" but not the end of violence in Iraq.

...

What was the context for enchanting anyway? Off the cuff or teleprompter?

Just checked Word's thesaurus and enchanting is a synonym (in the context of Microsoft anyway) for captivating--so I was suspecting last minute intern-like teleprompter change.

But if it was extemporaneous, then I go for a "fabulous" type syndrome of an explanation. Just be glad he didn’t go for "delightful" or (more SNL-like) "capturing Saddam is de-licious"
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