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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:52 PM
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Pelosi warns Bush shouldn't 'abuse power' on troop escalation
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/15/MNGLGNIVNT9.DTL

Pelosi warns Bush shouldn't 'abuse power' on troop escalation

Carla Marinucci, Chronicle Political Writer

Monday, January 15, 2007
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Bush, appearing Sunday on "60 Minutes," was asked about the opposition of the Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress.

"I fully understand they could try to stop me,'' he said. "But I've made my decision, and we're going forward. I'm not going to try to be popular and change principles to do so."

Cheney was even sharper, telling Fox News that "you cannot run a war by committee," and pointedly suggesting the Democrats don't have a plan for Iraq.

"We have a plan, and he knows it," Pelosi said today as she was mobbed by well-wishers following her keynote address at the 22nd annual holiday breakfast.

Pelosi, addressing the crowd on themes regarding King's life, raised the issue of Iraq repeatedly and noted that America's troops in Iraq have shown themselves to be brave heroes and an example the nation -- just as King had.

She said that in the last election, "the American people spoke out for change," and "nowhere was that voice more clear than in the war in Iraq.'' Today, "Democrats oppose the escalation of the war," she said to cheers. "Let me repeat that: Democrats oppose the escalation of the war.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 04:56 PM
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1. "And we'll keep saying we oppose the escalation until every last man
and woman of that 21,500 is in Iraq dodging bullets and praying they don't run over a bomb."

:sarcasm:
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:05 PM
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2. Bush -shouldn't- abuse power?!!??
He already has and will continue to do so until he
is legally and forcibly stopped.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:06 PM
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3. if he doesnt stop, she's gonna hold her breath until she passes out
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 05:07 PM
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4. She is so afraid of being branded as "abandoning the troops," she forfeits the nation.
Even if there were the danger she could be branded, still she should stop the Totalitarian junta. You do what you have to do.

Ah, what a rich history it was. So long, it was a bold experiment.

We hardly knew ya.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:19 PM
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10. aw, come on...
Saying he's abusing his power is one step away from saying we must remove him from power!

give her some credit why dontcha...

:shrug:

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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 06:54 PM
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5. putting the common good above all else
I get out of this that she's putting the common good above all else as a preferred goal. People used to the male way of ruling and speaking may misunderstand her words.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 07:21 PM
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6. He already has -- 4,000 new troops arrived in Iraq today
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n103367

About 4,000 US Soldiers Arrived in Iraq Today
15 January 2007 | 16:32 | FOCUS News Agency

Baghdad. About 4,000 US soldiers arrived in Iraq today, the Commander of the Multinational forces in Iraq Gen. George Casey said, cited by World media.
According to Gen. Casey up to 17,500 troops are to be deployed within the framework of the plan of the US President for expanding the US military presence in Iraq.

Your right Nancy "the American people spoke out for change". Repeating the phrase "Democrats oppose the escalation of the war" is not what they had in mind.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:03 PM
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7. He's not abusing his power. He's siezing power he doesn't have.
Escalating this war without the explicit approval of congress is a direct violation of the War Powers Act of 1973.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/warpower.htm

What Pelosi is saying is analagous to inveigling a bank robber to not "abuse his power" by killing his hostages.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 08:56 PM
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8. Agreed ! The AUMFs (both) must be revisited
WPA requires 'clear' 'situations' and 'circumstances' before troops put in harm's way. In addition, Congress cannot delegate to Bush those powers to make war based upon his fantasies.

With that in mind, the DoD has already wargamed Iran and it was a failure. What's Bush's rush ???
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:02 PM
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9. They are way past the IWR confines (Saddam, WMD). That's what Congress
should raise.
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-15-07 09:57 PM
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11. Come on now
when are the dems going to stop pussyfooting with that deranged,I suspose if theloon, and impeach him? I suspose if the congress critter had sons and daughter dying for the Busg follies, they would do the planet a favor and remove that nut.WAKE UP AMERICA,its morning in america and the fools are at the helm of our ship of state.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:39 AM
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12. So what are you going to do when he does abuse power -
as he has been doing for the past 6 years or so?
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 11:53 AM
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13. "We have a plan, and he knows it," Pelosi said
Does anyone have a link to Speaker Pelosi's plan? I haven't heard of it (but I don't watch a lot of TV, either).

Or, does anyone know the highlights of it?

Thanks
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:23 PM
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14. here
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 05:37 PM
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15. Ok, a simple "pull out"...
Edited on Tue Jan-16-07 05:38 PM by JustABozoOnThisBus
... it's clean, I like it.

Thanks for the link.
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-16-07 07:44 PM
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16. Gee, the unitary usuper and torturer in chief must be shaking in his boots now.
Until they fulfill their oath to defend the Constitution and impeach Bush and Cheney, our so-called "leaders" in Congress are just a bunch of tweedledums -- shaking their fists and rattling their . . . rattles.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow,
As black as a tar-barrel;
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.

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