Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

7 Texas border mayors' message on the wall: No

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:57 AM
Original message
7 Texas border mayors' message on the wall: No
Jan. 17, 2007, 11:40PM
7 Texas border mayors' message on the wall: No
Capitol Hill policymakers told fence would harm trade and relations


By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT
Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle Washington Bureau

WASHINGTON — Texas border mayors carried a clear message Wednesday to federal policymakers: Walling off the United States from Mexico is a costly, foolish idea that will harm commerce, travel and foreign relations.

The seven mayors, representing cities that stretch from El Paso to Brownsville, raced from meeting to meeting on Capitol Hill, urging Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and lawmakers to abandon Congress' mandate to build 700 miles of fence and instead rely on other border security measures.

"It's a united front: No to the wall," said Laredo Mayor Raul Salinas. "It's just money misspent."

Call for sensors, lights
Instead of fencing off more than 300 miles of the Texas-Mexico border, the mayors recommended that Chertoff and Congress improve border security by using technology such as motion detection sensors and lighting as a "virtual" fence, or by adding more Border Patrol manpower.
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4478479.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:01 AM
Response to Original message
1. Good for them; some sanity is welcome. Misspent money indeed. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:06 AM
Response to Original message
2. move over Lou Dobbs and Duncan Hunter!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:16 AM
Response to Original message
3. lol -- well isn't that something?
to badly paraphrase robert frost -- i think -- there's something that doesn't love a wall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. Yes, Robert Frosts's poem us generally misunderstood....
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 08:21 AM by Bridget Burke
In "Mending Wall" the Poet says "something there is that doesn't love a wall." His flinty New England neighbor is the one who keeps repeating "good fences make good neighbors" & piling stone on stone.

....Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offense.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.' I could say 'Elves' to him,
But it's not elves exactly, and I'd rather
He said it for himself. I see him there
Bringing a stone grasped firmly by the top
In each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.
He moves in darkness as it seems to me,
Not of woods only and the shade of trees.
He will not go behind his father's saying,
And he likes having thought of it so well
He says again, 'Good fences make good neighbors.'


www.poets.org/viewmedia.php/prmMID/15719

(American Lit 102.)



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #6
10. i think that poem is perfect for this wall we're talking about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. Those who want the Wall don't even live in the border states.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 07:29 AM
Response to Original message
4. Democrats in no rush to build Mexico border fence
Democrats in no rush to build Mexico border fence

The Associated Press
Wednesday, January 17, 2007
WASHINGTON

Mayors of Texas border towns who met with U.S. Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff said they are confident a 850-mile (1,367-kilometer) fence will not be built on the U.S.-Mexico border.

It is "highly unlikely" that the fence, as authorized in a law signed by U.S. President George W. Bush, would be funded, Laredo Mayor Raul Salinas said Wednesday.

"It's a turnaround here," Salinas said.

Chertoff said after the meeting there are parts of the border where a fence will work, and the agency wants to be "expeditious" in building it. But he said a mix of technology will be needed on some parts of the border.

Bush signed the law last year, and the Republican-controlled Congress provided money to start work on the fence. But now that Democrats have a majority on Capitol Hill, Republicans worry they never will see the fence built. Democrats generally oppose the fence. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, among others, voted against it last year.
(snip/...)

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/18/america/NA-GEN-US-Border-Fence.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:11 AM
Response to Original message
5. Glad to know the locals display more wisdom than Washington.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
7. Oh gawd....this is worth a least two months of programming
notes for Lou Dobbs. :eyes:

But I agree with the mayors.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 09:30 AM
Response to Original message
8. What, I'm the first here to say "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS?" -nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:21 AM
Response to Original message
9. K&R for the teeniest bit of sanity. The wingnut kneejerk reaction on "border security"
is nothing more than a boondoggle. So far on the SOUTHERN border in the past several years they have been equipped with thousands of personnel, now National Guard units, administrative buildings like palaces, horses, dunebuggies, surveillance cameras, boats, web cams---not to mention hours of HOT AIR from Tex (heir to Kotex) SENSENBRENNER and TANCREDO, and outright racists like the Minutemen.

All the fence will do is to wreck the economies on both sides. There is a "smart" way of doing this, and this ain't it.

However, some of those mayors in this article backed Governor Goodhair for re-election, because they were betting he would win (which he did) and therefore they would be in his good graces for goodies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FormerDem06 Donating Member (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 12:45 PM
Response to Original message
11. My youngest brother works on a pretty big cattle farm on the border .....
I wish they'd concentrate on fixing the real problems instead of building walls. The other day he turned a corner and came 50 yards away from 3 Jeeps with big guns mounted on the back escorting a old army surplussed cargo truck.

Said that they see evidence of drug smuggling across their property all the time and can do nothing about it. A wall won't fix that, they'll just blow a hole in it and keep driving through.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 10:37 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC