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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:43 PM
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Blunt: Bush critics 'don't want to do what it takes to win'

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/01/blunt-bush-critics-dont-want-to-do.html

Blunt: Bush critics 'don't want to do what it takes to win'

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Speaking in support of a House bill proposing to prohibit Congress from cutting off funding for the Iraq war, Minority Whip Roy Blunt said Thursday critics of President Bush's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq "don't want to do what it takes to win."

"Those who are not supporting the president's current effort really have an obligation, in my view, to come up with their own plan and we're not hearing that," the Missouri Republican told reporters at a GOP press conference. "We're seeing politicians in Washington who really want to have it both ways, they don't want to support the current plan, but they don't have a plan of their own."

"They don't want to lose, but they don't want to do what it takes to win," he added
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:45 PM
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1. bullshit-- Kucinich has announced an excellent plan....
It's a plan for disengagement, not a plan for escalation or dragging out the madness any further.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:46 PM
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2. kick
for the Kucinich plan.:kick:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:38 AM
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24. Of course they're not hearing it. They haven't taken their fingers out of their
ears yet. Probably won't, EVER, as long as they're in the presence of any Democrat. They only give bush that courtesy.

Ironically, that's why THEY aren't willing to do what it takes to win (votes) anymore. Because they're not willing to listen to the vast majority of voters, either. Keep it up, assholes. See how far that gets ya in '08. :evilgrin:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:47 PM
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3. Another fucking republican idiot with a microphone
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 02:48 PM by BOSSHOG
Lots of plans out there blunt but you've been instructed to feed the lemmings the party line.

And why should democrats come up with a plan to clean up the shit that you and your fellow dumbass, ignorant motherfucking republicans came up with 4 years ago? You lied about wmd, you just had to go to war, you've killed thousands and thousands of humans, you conservatives don't give a fuck about that, you have totally fucked the military and our economy with your arrogant ignorance AND NOW SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO HAVE A PLAN?

Republicans and their lemming supporters are fucking worthless ignorant enemies of the constitution. Dumbass fucking idiots.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:05 PM
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7. Well shoot, Boss, how do you really feel about it!!
Just kidding - but man, you've got the passion this time!!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:38 PM
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15. I use to be meak and mild
until "conservatives" introduced me to the art of political discourse.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 06:24 PM
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17. Bosshog, you are 100% right
They smash something to bits, then want us to fix it? Sorry, but we warned you. You just HAD to have your war, and now that the whole thing is blowing up in your faces, you want us to fix it. Well, if you tell somebody with a hammer not to break a piece of china, and they do it anyway, they would have to be pretty ignorant to turn to you and say that it's now your responsibility to fix it. That's exactly what the Republic party is demanding, and it won't work.
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Raiden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:47 PM
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4. Like giving up HABEUS CORPUS?
Burning the Bill of Rights?
Submitting to torture and wiretaps?


So we can't win unless we give up what we're fighting to defend? Sound's like a plan for victory...

Douchebag :mad:
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 02:52 PM
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5. He's drunk the kool aid!
Besides, what is it that will win? We've been through the whole gamut of the 'plan' catalogue and none of them have worked. Why should we think this latest one will? Our problem is the multi-nationals have their fangs sunk deep into the jugular of the American taxpayer and won't let go.........
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:02 PM
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sane people dont think 'winning' is about huge war profiteering and
beating your enemies down through intimidation and fear.

sane people want peace and prosperity for all. thats winning.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:02 PM
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6. The only way to win the war on terror is to stop using so much oil.
When these countries are back to the status they held before oil made them important the problems will take care of themselves.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:29 PM
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12. The only way to win the war on terror is to declare victory and
bring all our troops home.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:22 PM
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8. What does "win" mean: will we know it when we see it?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:26 PM
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11. I'm thinking they're envisioning a brawl
I mean, heck, there's only a billion or so Muslims. We can take 'em! We just have to willing to do what it takes to win. If you don't have the belly for mass murder on a global scale, killing that makes the Nazis and the Soviets combined look like pikers, today's Republican party just doesn't have any use for you.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:17 AM
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23. "Win" means getting to have another ceremony on a ship
to declare "This time-- Mission *Definitely* Accomplished"..."

:freak:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:25 PM
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9. Good thing they have the excuses of Vietnam to recycle for this
current bullshit.

'don't want to do what it takes to win'
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:31 PM
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13. Repukes have already started floating the Vietnam "stab in the
back" mythos for Iraq, i.e., we could have won if it weren't for (Dems, media, protesters) stabbing us in the back.

That Vietnam stab in the back trope was itself a restatement of theme effectively used by Nazis and other German nationalists after their defeat in World War I, i.e., we could have won if it weren't for those damned (Jews, socialists, degenerates).
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:34 PM
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14. Yeppers.....they sure have
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 03:25 PM
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10. There is no plan to win on either side. We lost a war but bush still wants the oil.
Our plan, get the hell out of there and leave oil revenues to Iraqis. That's not what the neocons want.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 05:51 PM
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16. When I hear a puglikant say 'victory' or 'win'
Edited on Thu Jan-18-07 05:54 PM by realpolitik
I want to scream and break things.

They have re-defined victory repeatedly and captain codpiece has already celebrated it. They should all STFU and STFD. You had your victory moment, now it's time for your getting the hell out of dodge moment.

To achieve victory, you must posess two things that Cheney does not, a plan, and an achievable goal.

We are there to be policemen and women for the Saudis, backup for the Israelis, and fools for the religious right.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:37 PM
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18. They always come up with this crap when sounding off, but are
never put in a position where they would have to defend their statements.

Just once, I'd like to see someone stand up and say "Hold it! Shut the fuck up for second. Define just what you mean by 'win'. For that matter, what is Bush's fucking plan? Let us know so we can be sure YOU understand it."

But it will never happen.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 10:45 PM
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19. Define "win", chucklenuts
By the way, this turd consistently makes the list as one of the most corrupt members of Congress. Here's a little tidbit on Congre$$man Blunt:

In 2003, Rep. Blunt divorced his wife of 31 years to marry Philip Morris (now Altria) lobbyist Abigail Perlman. Before it was known publicly that Rep. Blunt and Ms. Perlman were dating – and only hours after Rep. Blunt assumed the role of Majority Whip – he tried to secretly insert a provision into Homeland Security legislation that would have benefitted Philip Morris, at the expense of competitors. Notably, Altria is Rep. Blunt’s largest campaign contributor, having donated more than $270,000 to political committees tied to him.

In 2003, Rep. Blunt helped his son, Andrew Blunt, by inserting a provision into the $79 billion emergency appropriation for the war in Iraq to benefit U.S. shippers like United Parcel Service, Inc. and FedEx Corp. Andrew Blunt lobbies on behalf of UPS in Missouri, and UPS and FedEx have contributed at least $58,000 to Rep. Blunt since 2001.

By pushing for legislation that would benefit Philip Morris and UPS, and, as a consequence, his then-girlfriend and his son, Rep. Blunt may have violated federal law and House rules.


http://www.beyonddelay.org/summaries/blunt.php

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:17 PM
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20. What? Go to the front lines
and put your ass there? Is blunt gonna do that?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-18-07 11:43 PM
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21. Define 'win'. (nt)
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:00 AM
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22. So what does it "take" to "win" what?
Edited on Fri Jan-19-07 03:00 AM by LynnTheDem
Slaughter every last Iraqi, none of whom had been doing a damn thing against us or anyone else?

Anyone who EVER supported this bullshit, FUCK OFF.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 03:41 AM
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25. Sure we do. We want to investigate every aspect of the illegal election, the meetings you had with
Mideast representatives where you offered them a "carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs", every single company bushco has been previously involved with that has landed enormously lucrative multi-billion-dollar deals due to the illegal wars, and every single person or entity that has had contact with this administration who also is involved with mafia activities.

We certainly do want to win. We want to win our country back.
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mitchleary Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 08:26 AM
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26. don't know how to win eh?
Well mr. Blunt, why are you in the minority?

The American people are sick of your type of "winning" so we got two words for ya, "suk it".
The Dems should freeze your a$$es out like you did them, force you to have your meetings in the cellar.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 10:00 AM
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27. Oh I see how it is, losing means not handing over billions to
the war profiteers.

Boy, I bet blunts lobbiest have their panties in a knot over this.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-19-07 11:15 AM
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28. Pick a plan, you f'n idiot.
Murtha's Plan
Obama's Plan
Clinton's Plan
McGovern's Plan
The ISG Plan
Maliki's Plan


Get the hell out of Iraq! There's the plan.

Humpty Dumpty is dead.
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