US army trucks attacked in Kuwait

[Emillereid]

Gunmen have fired at two US military truck convoys in Kuwait, slightly injuring four US soldiers. ...

Just breaking on BBC -- are the insurgents expanding the war or just being opportunistic?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3319121.stm

[aquart]

1. The civil war begins today.

First they all kill us, and the ones who kill the most of us declare themselves in charge.

Then they proceed to kill each other.

Ain't liberation grand.

[Tinoire]

3. My thoughts exactly

See this thread Aquart:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=269401#269481

I would be curious to read your thoughts in that thread...

[jenk]

2. but but, we got Saddam!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Two of the groups are suspected to have

expanded the war, and be behind the bombings in Turkey...

Look the insurgency in Iraq is very complex

Let me list the groups gathered from news sources

Ba'athists... (those may go down after this... really, you believe me right?)

Nationalists (Those we don't know who they are, but they are doing what many of us would do if the US was occupied as well.)

Mujahadeen (Outsiders... but those have been going down over the last few)

Wahabist... and in this list you can include Al Qaida and Ansar al Islam, and they have expanded the fight to places like oh... Turkey and now Kuwait... not surprising to be honest.


There may be even other groups, and why the capture of Sadamn means almost nothing (I am giving the Ba'Athist to Bush maybe) regarding the revolt and the internal structure of it.

[htuttle]

7. Re: Ba'athist reaction to capture

It's possible that with Hussein out of the way as a symbol, there's far less to keep the Ba'athists and Nationlists from moving closer together.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Depending on how long this goes

How much those two groups will morph into one... wtih a common
command structure

Now once we leave the civil war will be just amazing

[Tinoire]

5. An "enchanted day" I think is the expression...

Now the Iraqi people have NO reason not to resist with every bone in their body. Sadaam is out of the way. Our troops are a lot less "safe" now.

Owwwwww, the Pandora's box those greedy idiots have opened! Of course they have much better caves to hide in than this one:



Why aren't those who said we should be celebrating in this thread? I even got this vile filth PMd to my in-box:

>Why are you not elated at the news that Saddam Hussein has
>been captured? The fact is, Saddam was like a mini Hitler. He
>killed hundreds of thousands of people during his reign, and I
>personally find it disgusting that some people are not
>cheering his capture.

:puke:

[Emillereid]

6. It's hard to believe Hussein was directing any operations

from what this hiding place. It was effectively a grave.

[qanda]

8. Kuwait?

Refresh my memory please-- isn't that in the Sunni Triangle? :shrug:

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Shh the triangle

now covers kuwait and Ankara (Turkey)

[durutti]

11. U.S. out now!

Victory to the resistance!

[Cocoa]

12. pulling the US out doesn't mean losing

if it's put in those terms, it'll never happen. Kucinich doesn't want to declare defeat, he wants the UN to take over there.

[durutti]

13. I disagree with Kucinich.

There are a few things progressives need to consider.

1. The U.S. needs to let the Iraqis establish their own political institutions, free from U.S. intervention.

2. Bringing in the UN instead of the U.S. will make very little difference, so long as the U.S. and Britain are part of the UN. The UN is an extremely undemocratic institution. It is nothing more than a forum through which the major imperialist powers attempt to exercise control over the world. The U.S. and Britain have the clout to ensure that the UN won't take any actions that might hurt American corporate interests.

3. Saddam can't possibly return to power. The Iraqis no longer need to be protected from him.

4. Polls show that the majority of Iraqis do not want a U.S.-style liberal democracy.

Therefore, the sensible thing to do is to get out now. "Victory to the resistance" is a good slogan, I think; this isn't just about saving American lives -- it's about asserting Iraq's right to self-determination. The U.S. should also pay reparations to Iraq.

[goforit]

14. Oh my!!!.......a mounting terror!

There will be no more sleep for our soldiers from this day forward.