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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:01 PM
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Biden: Cheney "Doesn't Know What He Is Talking About..He Is Yet To Be Right One Single Time On Iraq"
AP via The Huffington Post January 21, 2007

On Sunday, Biden said despite the competing proposals, there was overwhelming
bipartisan support in Congress against the war. He said Vice President Dick Cheney
was absolutely wrong in suggesting that a resolution against the war would
"embolden the enemy."

"Every single person out there that is of any consequence knows the vice president
doesn't know what he is talking about. I can't be more blunt than that," Biden said.
"He is yet to be right one single time on Iraq."

Hagel suggested there may be more Republican support than is generally known
for seeking a vote in Congress toward ending the war in Iraq."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/01/21/biden-cheney-doesnt-kn_n_39175.html

Nice to see a nationally known political figure starting to express the truth as directly
and unvarnished as we do here. Welcome to DU, Senator Biden!
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:11 PM
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1. Biden is right....
....but Biden is half-right when he calls for a re-write of the Iraq War Authorization....we must ALSO de-fund parts of this fascist aggression we don't like....

....we know bushco will put our troops in harms-way and then claim the duty to protect them with aggression contrary to any war authorization....impeach him?....bush don't care, as a matter of fact, he would probably welcome it as a diversion....

....bushco will shift funds around to maintain their aggression but they'll have to do it illegally....then someone should go to prison....
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:12 PM
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2. "Hagel suggested there may be more Republican support than is generally known"
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 10:12 PM by LynnTheDem
I bet Chuck is 100% correct on that.

Even the majority of Republics have awoken from the fog of bush's bullshit.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 05:46 AM
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11. well, if the Resolution comes to a vote We WILL KNOW!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 05:46 AM
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12. hey JOE ------keep sticking ti him!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:24 PM
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3. A shiny nickel awaits . . .
When will a reporter ask Bush directly about this? "Mr. Bush, as you know, Sen. Biden has said that you haven't been right one single time on Iraq. Now, you've been asked several times about mistakes and errors, and you've been pretty stumped by the question. Would you, at this time, care to respond to Sen. Biden's charge? What have you done right in Iraq? Anything? Anything at all? Bueller? Bueller?"
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:27 PM
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4. In fact, Biden said that it was Cheney who'd been wrong every time.
(We all know about bush's long history of being dead right on Iraq!)

But I'd sure like to see the Penguin get called on his bullshit.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:29 PM
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5. .
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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:18 AM
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9. He will tell you this
We have built schools, girls are attending those schools without fear of reprisal. Iraq had elections and has a new Constitution. A tyrant has been dispatched etc.... The bad intelligence was the fault of the CIA, not him or his administration. Colin Powell has sour grapes, so does Paul O'Neil. He will tell you that it was his advisors, not him or his administration. He went with the best intelligence available. You can't blame him before because nobody has a crystal ball. You can't blame during because it is a time for action not finger pointing. You can't blame after because it is time to move on to the next thing, not dwell on the past. (That last thing about blaming I read here on DU, I think it was a comment about the handling of Hurricane Katrina, but I like it and use it for everything).
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:47 PM
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6. Smack 'im, Senator.

And keep it brief, like this one, please.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:47 PM
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7. Good for Biden
There need to be many more pointing out that Bush, Cheney, and their whole corrupt gang have been wrong on every single aspect of this illegal war. They make statements, then say something completely different, and so far, almost nobody has had the courage to point this out. If we take their statements during the lead up to the war, and during the years that followed, they have consistently been wrong.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:46 AM
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8. Biden is a self-serving tool.
Yeah, he talks the talk on the Sunday morning talk shows, but his actual votes don’t go that far. Like this latest limp-wrested resolution, his leadership is pure distraction. There is no there, “there.”
For instance…
Biden voted for the bankruptcy bill. I doubt that he was concerned for the greater number of his constituents as he was by the greater amount of credit card contributors to his campaigns. If you don’t know, Delaware is the home state for Corporate protection, loose financial law and such.

His “passion” is pathetic because his record belies his on-air content. If this guy that wants to be POTUS doesn’t really wants our troops to be in Iraq any longer, then why is he sponsoring a non-binding resolution to that affect?

“Oh, it’s politics.” Sorry. None of that makes any motion to remove our troops and young people from this misguided occupation of a sovereign government, ESPECIALLY one in the Middle East. Good God. OUR government is in the hands of a loon that really has his hands on a nuclear bomb. If and when the world gets wind, we are toast. There is no “if” since we are indebted to China and Saudi Arabia to loan us (not pay, loan with interest) the capital to pay for this folly.

In short: We are already fucked by the design of neo-cons who should have known that we can’t possibly win this war of aggression and subsequent occupation. But by *’s standards, we already won the war when the staged toppling of Saddam’s statue came tumbling down. Three years later we see Saddam bated tumbling at the end of rope.

Why are we not yet done with this misadventure? And why is his appeal just non-binding?

I'm just asking.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 03:19 AM
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10. Cheney isn't concerned with being "right" about Iraq -
Iraq is about the deals - backroom and boardroom - and that Cheney does want to be right about.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 07:11 AM
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13. That's right.
All the hot air Bush-Cheney-Condi etc come out with is just marketing fluff, it doesn't matter to them if it has no relation to reality, same as the makers of a certain fizzy drink never have to prove "it's the real thing" (we know they just say it because it sounds good).
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